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Thanks for identifying a silly date error in the Trumpism article and for fixing up some tortured sentences in it. Actually the statement did have a citation, but it was deferred to the end of set of sentences listing the lies. Each sentence could instead be footnoted with the particular page number supporting each sentence. When I correct it, do you think it should be done that way? They are all from the same book- "donald Trump and his assault on Truth. This one was from page 24. J JMesserly (talk) 09:08, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

• J JMesserly, you can just include the one citation at the end of the paragraph if everything in that paragraph is taken from the same source. But since I don't own that book, I couldn't fix the error myself, since I don't know what the book actually says. Mlb96 (talk) 06:19, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

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Hi

How did you find this thread, please? -->[1] - GizzyCatBella🍁 02:44, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

• @GizzyCatBella: Scrolling through COIN for fun. It has nothing to do with that AfD, if that's what you're wondering; the fact that you are in both is purely coincidental. Mlb96 (talk) 02:57, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  5 minutes after I posted my question at AfD you happened to incidentally run at the board I’m heavily involved at, to cast !vote against my opinion? - GizzyCatBella🍁 03:13, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  That is largely correct, although I reject your framing of the situation: I was not casting a !vote against your opinion, I was casting a !vote in favor of my own opinion. I happen to browse AfD frequently (check my contributions if you don't believe me), and I often browse ANI, COIN, and RSN for fun as well. Mlb96 (talk) 03:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  Do you mind if I ask administration to evaluate the situation? - GizzyCatBella🍁 03:28, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  What would that entail? Mlb96 (talk) 03:32, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  It will not involve AE but the regular Administrative incidents board, since you were not aware of the sanctions prior to me posting the notice below. Unfortunately, I have doubts that you were able to read all that wall of text at COI and compose your judgement in 5 minutes. Your very recent editing history also suggests different scenario as what you saying (no recent edits to COI). I’ll think about it, because this might end up with sanctions and I don’t like seeing not bad editors sanctioned. (I’m serious, I don’t) Do you mind being honest with me before (if) I move forward? - GizzyCatBella🍁 03:50, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  I'm telling you the truth, I genuinely went to COIN for shits and giggles and only decided to comment in that thread because the situation struck me as obvious. If you want to see my browser history, it shows that the first thing I did after opening COIN was click on the link to this section because it was the first one on the page that I hadn't read yet; I did not see the thread in question until I had scrolled down and read through everything else on the page above it. Mlb96 (talk) 03:58, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  How can I see your browser history?

  Look, you were involved in the dispute at AfD [2] where you commented just 30 minutes earlier.

  Then:

  • at 01:07 I randomly posted my perspective [3] at that AfD which was not in line with your view.
  • at 01:12 (5 minutes later) you posted your opinion at the COI board I was involved at, opposing my view.[4].
  • at 01:19 (7 minutes later) you posted your response opposing me back on AfD[5]

  This does not look good because it appears that you followed me to cast !vote as a revenge. In just 5 minutes one can't read through the wall of text at that COI, make a decision and compose the judgment. This is impossible. Here is the thing. I'll refrain from passing it to the Admins and instead, I'll explain the circumstances of you voting, in small print, under your !vote at COI. This way your comment will be assessed proportionately. I hope you are okay with that and this ends here. (are you?) But please don’t act this way again. - GizzyCatBella🍁 06:33, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  @GizzyCatBella: You literally point out that there is a 30 minute gap between my posts and then go on to say that I only took 5 minutes? That's incorrect, I was at COIN reading for the full 30 minutes. Then after I posted there, I checked the AfD, saw that it had been posted in, and responded. You're doing your absolute damnedest to assume bad faith even after I truthfully explained what happened to you, and it's starting to get on my nerves. Mlb96 (talk) 08:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  If you take a look at my browser history, you'll see that it shows that I began writing my edit to COIN at 8:06 EST/1:06 UTC, one minute before you posted to the AfD. So hopefully that should put this argument to bed. Mlb96 (talk) 08:08, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  Which way do you want me to proceed? - GizzyCatBella🍁 08:28, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  You've gotta be kidding me. How do you still not believe me? I literally have proof that I was at COIN before you posted to AfD. It is literally impossible for my post to have been retaliatory. Mlb96 (talk) 08:30, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  You mean that photo you posted is the proof? - GizzyCatBella🍁 08:35, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  Do you honestly think I would go to the trouble of photoshopping my browser history for this? This is absolutely absurd, I barely know who you are and I do not give anywhere near enough of a shit about that one random AfD to follow around people who disagree with me. The fact that you would go to such extreme lengths to assume bad faith is utterly appalling. Just fucking post the ANI thread if you're going to be this stubborn. I genuinely would rather be punished for something I didn't do than continue this conversation, because I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall. Mlb96 (talk) 08:40, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  I'm going to bed because it's past 4 AM, so I'd prefer if you waited on the ANI thread, but if you're going to post it anyway, at least have the courtesy to link to this talk page discussion so that people can see what I have to say for myself (and so they can enjoy watching my descent into madness from interacting with you). Mlb96 (talk) 09:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  Since I'm currently suffering from insomnia, I figured I'd add one more thing, and that's a plea to consider Occam's razor. Which is more likely: that I'm telling the truth and this was just an unfortunate coincidence, or that I'm a pathological liar and photoshop expert who also happens to be interested in obscure J-pop singers? Mlb96 (talk) 09:52, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

  I hope this incident doesn’t add to your sleeplessness. Please rest, nothing will change here when you wake up. I’ll get back to you later. - GizzyCatBella🍁 10:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Mlb96.

Warning trolls ahead

Wanted to give you some general advice. I haven't lost any of my naivety in truly believing that editors that try their best to improve Wikipedia have nothing to worry about, it hasn't done me wrong yet (humble brag). So feel free to ignore empty threats from editors that may be trying to discourage you from voicing your opinion. Editors are expected to assume good faith in your edits as you do with theirs. Safely deflect unhelpful critism and beware of trolls. If you ever feel caught up in editing in a bad way, feel free to pop me a message if that kinda thing would help? I want you to keep editing Wikipedia because I think it's fun. If it gets stressful at all consider a wiki-break, Wikipedia will still be here when you want to come back, and it will still need your help :) Pabsoluterince (talk) 10:47, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for edit my article.

Thank you for editing my article. (such as an article about Strawberry Prince, Japanese utaite band), Please help edit this article about other japanese other singer.

After the rain (Duo utaite band)

• Mafumafu
• Soraru

Urashimasakatasen (Japanese utaite Boy band 4 people)

• Uratanuki

And 3 other singers in the band, you have to create them

• Shima (From jawiki:志麻)
• Tonari no Sakata (From jawiki:となりの坂田。)
• Senra (From jawiki:センラ)

Other Utaite

• Amatsuki

Thank you. NongPee4603 (talk) 07:23, 7 December 2021 (UTC).

• Sorry, but I'll probably only edit pages for singers I'm actually a fan of. I might write a page for Pmarusama at some point in the future (and a page for Naa-kun if he ever releases a damn solo album), but I probably won't edit pages for any other utaite. I also was planning on writing an article about utaite in general, but I'm struggling to maintain motivation for that. Mlb96 (talk) 08:02, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

prior accounts

Have you used any other accounts on Wikipedia? nableezy - 18:24, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

• I think I made an account when I was a teenager, probably made no more than 10 edits on it, and lost the password years ago. Other than that, no. Mlb96 (talk) 18:29, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, nableezy - 18:30, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

@Nableezy: If this is related to the arb request, please leave me out. I want nothing to do with that discussion anymore. I made the foolish decision to dip my toes in the PIA lake and nearly got them bitten off by piranhas. I want out. Mlb96 (talk) 18:34, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Had no intention of bringing you in to that at all. Just some peculiarities I noticed that reminded me of somebody that I used to know is all. nableezy - 18:38, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

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"Stylistic changes"?

Hello. I'm very confused by your revert on Strawberry Prince. You will find all of the edits I have made to that article are in line with our Manual of Style, which we should not be disregarding.

• Discography articles (and therefore, discography sections should follow) place types of albums before singles. That's not a "stylistic" change nor "without a reason", that's a widely followed practice and outlined at WP:DISCOGSTYLE. Please see literally any featured discography on Wikipedia.
• I added rowheaders to each entry in the table. As pointed out in my edit summary, this is in line with WP:ACCESSIBILITY, a Wikimedia policy and a guideline on Wikipedia, but more specifically MOS:DTAB. Columns have scope="col", entries in the table begin with scope="row".
• I decapitalised all-caps stylisations on the article per MOS:CAPS and MOS:JA. Stylisations like "START" should not be replicated per MOS:CAPS. The first letter of words, unless they are conjunctions and the like, are typically capitalised in Japanese transliterations of titles per MOS:JA. See other Japanese articles or the linked guideline.
• In previous revisions of the article, titles were left in bold in tables. This is against MOS:BOLD and not considered an appropriate instance in which to bold. Please see data tables on featured discographies for good examples.
• In a subsequent edit, I removed subsequent links to the same articles within the same wikitable (WP:REPEATLINK) and put single titles between quotation marks (per MOS:POPMUSIC).
• In an edit summary months ago and earlier today, you have cited MOS:RETAIN. MOS:RETAIN talks about multiple valid styles allowed by the MOS, like using either list-defined references or references in prose, or a variety of English or MDY/DMY date format over another. It does not apply to styles that have never been considered valid in the MOS, like bolding titles of works in a table (against MOS:BOLD), italicising song/single titles (against MOS:POPMUSIC), and decapitalising first letters of subsequent words in Japanese romaji transliterations (against MOS:JA). Nowhere in the MOS does it allow these styles like the examples I pointed out that it does allow. About the only thing you could "retain" is the order of sections. If that's what this is primarily about, fine—move the singles table back before the album tables if you feel that strongly about it. But please do not rebold titles by removing plainrowheaders/scopes, italicise song titles or decapitalise Japanese transliterations/re-capitalise Japanese all-caps stylisations.

I'm not sure what exactly you're disagreeing with here but my edits brought the article in line with the Manual of Style. If that's "stylistic" to you, then all of Wikipedia is "stylistic" because we have guidelines we should follow. In my opinion, I was de-stylising an unconventional violation of our MOS. Also, amount of time that an article has had something in place does not make it correct. I see that most of what you're talking about was in place before you ever edited the article: revision before your first edit to the article. I don't know why you're defending practices you didn't originate that are against the MOS. Ss112 22:56, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

• @Ss112: Words in Japanese are not the same as words in English. For example, is the name of the song "Dai Uchū Rendezvous" or "Daiuchū Rendezvous"? Both are equally correct. Rinu has a song called "Īndayo" but this could also be "Ī N Da Yo" or "Īn Dayo" or "Īn Da Yo" or "Ī Ndayo" or "Ī Nda Yo" or "Ī N Dayo", so how exactly do you propose capitalizing it? It's all arbitrary because Japanese people don't use romaji, so why bother changing it from one arbitrary system to another arbitrary system? I won't bother changing it back because you clearly care way too much about this, but please consider the fact that the Manual of Style itself states that it does not create hard rules, it is only a guideline and deviations are permissible if they work better for the article. And another thing: stop editing your own message multiple times on my talk page, it's obnoxious as piss to have seven goddamn notifications because you couldn't decide what you wanted to fucking write. Mlb96 (talk) 03:28, 29 December 2022 (UTC)