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Reasons for my raising wikistress:

Some general observations on Wikipedia governance being broken and good editors trampled by the system
Wikipedia is a kawaii mistress :)


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RC active users

The SQL Query offered to you by Dispenser is certainly the best way to request those numbers. If you don't have access to db of Wikipedia like me all you can do is request the recent changes with HTML, RSS or any other format and let a program parse out the data manually. To give an example Ive coded such a tool in Java here sourcecode/jar/Windows. It'll yield good results but is quick and dirty...

Can we use a unit such as active users/articles to evaluate the level of maintenance? What would be highly interesting is to see this data in a graph. What are the peaks? When are most users online? Are more users active in wikipedia during the week or on weekends? Observing these numbers over a longer period, while the number of created accounts is naturally increasing, is also the number of active users on a steady increase? What do you think? --64.202.107.25 (talk) 16:47, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that long term trends would be very valuable. Unfortunately I cannot code, so I am dependent on others creating software - or counting manually :( I run your software and it works nicely; I got (~UTC 19:30) 119 users and 45 IPs active in the past 5 minutes and 836 users and 411 IPs in the last hour. Here are a few hopefully easy to implement suggestions for your software: 1) add a 'number of editors in a last minute' 2) allow logging into a text file (in a fashion that would be excel friendly; maybe save the data into a csv file directly?) 3) and a time stamp (UTC perhaps)? And of course, do announce your software at the relevant thread at VPT/T:RCP; I'd also suggest adding it somewhere to Wikipedia:Tools. PS. Updates: (1 - ~UTC 19:30) 5 min: 106 / 41 1h: 788 / 408 (2 - ~UTC 20:30) 5 min: 98 / 34 1h: 829 / 461 (3 - UTC ~02:30 5 min: 102/36 1h: 750/419 --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:45, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
So I left the application running overnight, and I have a bunch more reports. I am guessing it updates every hour? Here are the results:
~4:30 UTC: 5min: 80/24 1h: 768/427
~5:30 UTC: 5min: 73/27 1h: 726/457
~6:30 UTC: 5min: 65/19 1h: 725/429
~7:30 UTC: 5min: 68/18 1h: 782/392
~8:30 UTC: 5min: 82/28 1h: 757/392
~9:30 UTC: 5min: 63/21 1h: 790/427
~10:30 UTC: 5min: 70/22 1h: 784/389
~11:30 UTC: 5min: 82/38 1h: 827/442
~12:30 UTC: 5min: 77/23 1h: 786/394
~13:30 UTC: 5min: 93/26 1h: 837/398
~14:30 UTC: 5min: 1127/46 h: 823/384
~15:30 UTC: 5min: 123/42 1h: 915/439
~16:30 UTC: 5min: 109/40 1h: 928/328
~17:30 UTC: 5min: 103/40 1h: 876/439
~18:30 UTC: 5min: 113/36 1h: 914/437
~19:30 UTC: 5min: 96/31 1h: 904/432
~20:30 UTC: 5min: 140/43 1h: 874/409
~21:30 UTC: 5min: 120/52 1h: 870/474
~22:30 UTC: 5min: 109/39 1h: 863/401
~23.30 UTC: 5min: 91/23 1h: 843/409
~00.30 UTC: 5min: 110/41 1h: 788/383
~01.30 UTC: 5min: 97/35 1h: 817/388
~02.30 UTC: 5min: 109/32 1h: 795/409
~03.30 UTC: 5min: 106/38 1h: 768/455
~04.30 UTC: 1h: 803/426
~05.30 UTC: 1h: 754/450
~06.30 UTC: 1h: 757/434
~07.30 UTC: 1h: 756/428
~08.30 UTC: 1h: 781/432
~09.30 UTC: 1h: 774/449
~11.30 UTC: 1h: 746/415
~11.30 UTC: 1h: 838/380
~12.30 UTC: 1h: 872/385
~13.30 UTC: 1h: 856/408
~14.30 UTC: 1h: 945/425
~15:30 UTC: 1h: 863/427
~16.30 UTC: 1h: 855/430
~17.30 UTC: 1h: 847/412
~18.30 UTC: 1h: 851/386
~19.30 UTC: 1h: 862/420
And I am done for now.
--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm actually on vacation and shouldn't be working. Still I realized there are some very severe flaws in the correctness of the tool. I am truly sorry. At the moment your version of the tool shouldn't even be functioning at all since that version expected dates to be written like "02 August 2009" -- mind the zero -- but Wikipedia uses "2 August 2009" and now it finds nothing at all :-(
A second flaw is with using the RecentChanges.php?limit=50000. When you set the limit to 50,000, Wikipedia internally minimizes that limit back to 5,000 changes. That wouldn't matter for all Wikipedias except for the English one, because the English Wikipedia has more than 5,000 changes/hour usually . It means that all your results were incorrect, the numbers presented were way too small. That flaw could be easily fixed by fetching the recent changes several times in every hour and keep them in the memory.
Having fixed those flaws however, this version sourcecode/jar/Windows of it finds all the users and IPs accurately now. You can use and modify my code any way you like, I'm not taking ownership or copyright. Sorry again that you let your computer running all night and still got only poor results. If I make any other progress with it, I will let you know.
As a format for Excel the easiest way should be using a CVS file. To be compatible with most software, now the tool first stores the Unix time, then the ISO 8601 time, then the time in yyyy-MM-dd HH:mm:ss, then the number of users and lastly the number of IPs. Do you need another format? The results.csv file is in the same directory and worked great with OpenOffice.org (OpenOffice exists also for Windows!) , it should also work with MS Excel. Does it work now? --64.202.107.25 (talk) 01:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the update. How do you make the program create and save the cvs file? I've been running it for few hours but I don't see the file anywhere. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 08:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rename of category

Category Massacres of Poles in Volhynia contains some places outside Volhynie, for example Chodaczków Wielki. How to rename category to Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia. --Paweł5586 (talk) 08:51, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

image indetification

Could you please identificate location of this picture, as well as others of this church. cheers --Sfu (talk) 22:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)?[reply]

Hi Piotr,

I had a question that I thought might be better suited to e-mail, but I wanted to let you know that the e-mail was on its way here on Wikipedia , to make sure you'd get the note.


thanks again, Andypolefrone (talk) 20:19, 2 August 2009 (UTC) Andy[reply]

Volhynia dispute now at AN3

Hello Piotrus. I see there's a report at WP:AN3 about Massacres of Poles in Volhynia. Since this is not in the conventional form of a 3RR report, any admin who dares to take on that report will be tempted to close it with no action. But since the issue has been raised, what would you think about a 1RR restriction for the article? (One revert per editor per day). My hope is this would produce more negotiation, since there would be less reward given to speedy reverters. EdJohnston (talk) 22:32, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

With your encouragement, I've closed the AN3 case as '1RR on the article', added a note to the article talk imposing the 1RR, and asked for review at WP:AN. EdJohnston (talk) 01:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have nominated List of organizations in the Honorverse, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of organizations in the Honorverse. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
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GA Reassessessment of Stanisław Lem

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Stanisław Lem/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rakowicki Cemetery

(You wrote)
You'll DYK it, of course...? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sure enough, but I have to think up a catchy hook first. Cheers, Poeticbent talk 03:16, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: T:TDYK

Thanks for suggestion, most of these small articles are single sourced as there is very limited material available both printed and on the net. I have occasionaally added cites but there have been few occasions where I felt they were justified due to most info being single sourced. I can't see any way out of that.Petebutt (talk) 10:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have lodged a self nomination using the SZD-6x article which I discovered had some glaring errors in it, thanks for making me look at it.Petebutt (talk) 21:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

You'll probably want to comment here. Debresser (talk) 17:40, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of PROD from Bob Taggart

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I have removed the {{prod}} tag from American Family (artwork exhibition), which you proposed for deletion, because I think that this article should not be deleted from Wikipedia. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! -- Atamachat 21:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Local government in Kraków

Updated DYK query On August 6, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Local government in Kraków, which you recently nominated. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Wikiproject: Did you know? 20:15, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Jadwiga of Pomerania

Updated DYK query On August 7, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jadwiga of Pomerania, which you recently nominated. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Wikiproject: Did you know? 02:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you take a look at the subject? Great topic, needs at least copyedit starting from the first sentence. NVO (talk) 04:58, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfC

Please see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Rorschach test images. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 16:38, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your WP:AE request about Lvivske

Hello Piotrus. Radek has added a comment suggesting that the complaint about Lvivske be closed with no action, since in his opinion Lvivske has become more constructive recently. You are the filer of the AE complaint. It would be interesting to know if you agree. I am astounded at the degree of harmony on the talk page I've been following over at Massacres of Poles in Volhynia, and I hope that it lasts. EdJohnston (talk) 01:35, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]