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February 16

03:24, 16 February 2024 review of submission by Stikipedia

This submission was declined. According to the notability criteria for books, it should meet the standard:

The book has been the subject[1] of two or more non-trivial[2] published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself.[3] This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists,[4] and reviews.

I have cited two or more independent published works of which the book in question was the subject.

Please advise. Thank you Stikipedia (talk) 03:24, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stikipedia. Your draft currently has three references. The first is a Google Books listing which is of no value in establishing the notability of the book. I recommend that you get rid of it. The Cafe Racer reference is an interview with the author and is not an independent source and therefore it does not contribute to notability. The Ultimate Motorcycling reference is better. That publication is already widely cited in motorcycling articles. You need several really good references, not just one. Cullen328 (talk) 08:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's helpful. Thank you. Stikipedia (talk) 19:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

04:18, 16 February 2024 review of submission by Jabril tatum

I can't find where I need to type my article. can you aid me? Jabril tatum (talk) 04:18, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Editing to promote non-notable YouTube channels is contrary to policy. Cullen328 (talk) 07:51, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

04:22, 16 February 2024 review of submission by Skhousad

what could qualify for publication as this is a credentialed certified individual? Skhousad (talk) 04:22, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Blocked for spamming.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:45, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

07:29, 16 February 2024 review of submission by Gulafshasheikh

I am from shivalik college. why my page is deleted? Gulafshasheikh (talk) 07:29, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your draft was overtly promotional and unreferenced. It did not resemble an encyclopedia article in any way. Cullen328 (talk) 07:48, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

08:00, 16 February 2024 review of submission by Wikidragonrider

Hi, I have a doubt like I have written the journey of the entrepreneur from start to end. So why is it in speedy deletion Wikidragonrider (talk) 08:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikidragonrider: this draft was entirely promotional, and has been accordingly deleted. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:02, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the information Wikidragonrider (talk) 08:10, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikidragonrider, please understand that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 22:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

08:31, 16 February 2024 review of submission by Ojaskedar00

Help me how to get this page approved Ojaskedar00 (talk) 08:31, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By proving notability via WP:NPOL or WP:GNG. Qcne (talk) 09:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:05, 16 February 2024 review of submission by Rafik.hannachi

I would like to know what can I improve in terms of sources, because they are from big news publications in the GCC region. In addition, I lost the option to edit and send for review, it seems like the editors are not aware about other sources from other regions outside the US and Europe. Also, how can you disclose the type of work that you are doing. Rafik.hannachi (talk) 12:05, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rafik.hannachi: this draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further.
You also must disclose your paid-editing status (see WP:PAID), which has been requested but so far not responded to.
You also should not create multiple user accounts, please see WP:SOCK. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There should be another way instead of not considering it further, I am asking for guidance on how and where to disclose so I can follow the guidelines. If you think you cannot help with this, then I will reach out to Wikimedia council concerning the issue, so please let me know. Rafik.hannachi (talk) 12:46, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rafik.hannachi: what guidance do you need? The instructions for disclosing your paid-editing status have been posted on your talk page, but you've chosen to ignore them.
Or are you asking for advice on how to disclose your use of multiple user accounts, perhaps? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:50, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have disclosed what you asked when checking online how to do it, can you let me know how I can send it for review again please, for the multiple accounts, I assumed it was an issue with account setting please advice on how I can take it further. Rafik.hannachi (talk) 12:53, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Kindly waiting for your reply. Rafik.hannachi (talk) 13:11, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rafik.hannachi Looking at the last entry with content there is still no evidence this company merits a Wikipedia article at this time. Qcne (talk) 13:20, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article talks about the first Media Hub to ever exist in the MENA region currently changing the Media landscape in the region, I have removed this part form the article so it does not sound promotional. What would you advice to proof it's merits. Rafik.hannachi (talk) 13:25, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You cannot make notability up from thin air. It might simply be too soon for an article about this company to exist on Wikipedia. If the sources do not exist that prove notability, then there can be no article at this time. Qcne (talk) 13:28, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please let me know what prove notability, because the company was also awarded the Broadcast pro Innovative project of the year 2023, which is a highly renowned award in the GCC region that so many broadcast companies take part of. Thank you in advance. Rafik.hannachi (talk) 13:40, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To see our notability criteria, please read WP:NORG closely. Qcne (talk) 13:43, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:08, 16 February 2024 review of submission by Kico1983

Hi.

I tried to write this article, it got rejected few times and I edited it every time.

Can you check is it now good to be published?

Thank you. Kico1983 (talk) 12:08, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kico1983: we don't provide on-demand reviews here at the help desk; you have resubmitted this draft, and it will be reviewed in due course when a reviewer comes across it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:11, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. I'm new in all this. Thank you very much for quick response.
Best regards. Kico1983 (talk) 12:12, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:47, 16 February 2024 review of submission by 2003:E7:673D:700:313E:53B1:1A64:4959

Can anybody help me? What exactly do I need for this page? All references are independent reportings - official reports form the Berlinale, OFDB, screendaily and an atricle written by the TAZ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Tageszeitung) - I do not really know what is wrong with that? 2003:E7:673D:700:313E:53B1:1A64:4959 (talk) 13:47, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Only one of your seven references - the TAZ article - even approaches meeting the triple criterion of being a reliable source, being wholly independent of the subject, and containing significant coverage of the subject. The others are all either from Tromanale, or no more than listing or mentions. Please see WP:CSMN ColinFine (talk) 22:23, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And why is not the official Berlinale Website or the OFDB a reliable reference? 2003:E7:6724:B00:60BC:35A4:824:A9EF (talk) 08:55, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
is it better to remove all reference except the TAZ article? So there is one references, but this references is reliable Tromaggot (talk) 08:58, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:59, 16 February 2024 review of submission by Avlesfirebees

how to submit my article to review and help to publish Avlesfirebees (talk) 16:59, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The draft is blank. If you intended to have text there, it isn't. 331dot (talk) 17:02, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You appear to be writing your draft BACKWARDS. First find the reliable independent sources with substantial coverage of her, then forget everything you know about the subject and write a summary of what the sources say.
I have added a header which will allow you to submit your draft for review. But there is no point in doing so until you have adequate sources. Your current citations merely mention her without saying anything about her. ColinFine (talk) 22:30, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

19:19, 16 February 2024 review of submission by SyedAshharImam

i don't know how to format correctly SyedAshharImam (talk) 19:19, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy link Draft:Zaki Ahmad. Please read WP:YFA and WP:MOS. Theroadislong (talk) 22:36, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your draft Draft:Zaki Ahmad is not an encyclopaedia article, but a CV, which lists no independent sources at all.
New editors who plunge straight into the challenging task of creating a new article, without having learnt or practised any of the skills and procedures of Wikipedia, often have a frustrating and disappointing time. Imagine taking up a new sport, and the next day entering a major competition: not only will you not succeed, you will likely not even understand any criticism from experienced players.
I always advise new editors to put aside any idea of creating a new article, and spend several months learning how Wikipedia works by making improvements to some of our six million existing articles. Once they have learnt something about topics such as verifiability, reliable sources, neutral point of view, and notability, then they can study your first article and see how to go about creating a new article. (If they see a need - I have been editing for eighteen years, and made over 24 000 edits, but I have only ever created half a dozen articles). ColinFine (talk) 22:38, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 17

03:06, 17 February 2024 review of submission by Dbaines84

I am unable to submit the page for review. Please can you advise me with what I need to do in order to publish the page? Dbaines84 (talk) 03:06, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dbaines84: you have submitted it; it is awaiting review. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:24, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...and now I have declined it. Please read WP:NCORP. Also, WP:COI. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:27, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

05:03, 17 February 2024 review of submission by Ocherrya

I created and corrected MugglePay topic, and did not get update, would you please review my topic and give feedback? Thanks! Ocherrya (talk) 05:03, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ocherrya: there is no 'update' forthcoming, because this draft has been rejected (which remains the case, despite you removing the rejection notice) and will therefore not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:22, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear,
Could you please tell me the reason for rejection? How I should correct it and then can set topic? Thanks! Ocherrya (talk) 14:57, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

05:40, 17 February 2024 review of submission by Zzremin

Hi all. My article was published in the main category. But, I noticed that it is not indexed by search engines. Please, help! Zzremin (talk) 05:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Zzremin: it becomes available for indexing by search engines when it has been reviewed by the new page patrol, or is 90 days old, whichever comes first. There is currently a backlog of over 9,500 new articles awaiting patrol, so it could take a while. Please be patient. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:20, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Zzremin (talk) 07:21, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

07:55, 17 February 2024 review of submission by Appliancetechsc

It was cited that my article was "contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia" How is that? This is information on what occupation of work services and repairs home appliances- which is there no reference for Appliancetechsc (talk) 07:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Appliancetechsc: because it wasn't written as an encyclopaedia article, more a Q&A, and it was entirely unreferenced. It did contain an external link to a business website with a remarkably similar name to your username, therefore I concluded that the draft was just pure WP:ADMASQ. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:58, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I thought referencing Wikipedia all throughout the article was a referenced article. Even with a few external links that are objective to the role of an appliance repair technician. As far the link to a business website, that has been taken out.
There is no reference for this occupation, and the "home appliance" section is so poorly referenced, I felt I needed to add a contribution to what an appliance technician does in the role of home appliances for the public. Appliancetechsc (talk) 08:07, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have corrected it so that it won't look like a Q & A
I have given references
No business website linked
Just pure, factual information, 95% referencing Wikipedia, the official NAICS website for US labor statistics, and an EAP testing organization Appliancetechsc (talk) 08:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia cannot be used as a reference for other Wikipedia articles, see WP:CIRCULAR. Blocked for promotional username. 331dot (talk) 08:34, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10:36, 17 February 2024 review of submission by Thisasia

Hello, I submitted Leehan for creation but it was declined despite the fact that it has all the necessary Rs required. Leehan is Notable so I don't know if there are more special requirements for any article to be approved? Thanks. Thisasia (talk) 10:36, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thisasia You must disclose your connection with this musician, see conflict of interest. If you work for him, the Terms of Use require disclosure, see the paid editing policy.
You have not shown that this musician meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician. Your sources are wholly inappropriate for doing this. Please see Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 10:42, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not connected to the musician in anyway, I'm rather interested in Korea WikiProject, and I'm just a volunteer contributor. THANKS. Thisasia (talk) 10:52, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will discuss this more on your user talk page; which of the musician notability criteria do you claim this person meets? 331dot (talk) 11:04, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:00, 17 February 2024 review of submission by Vderetic

1. I am failing to understand where precisely the specific cases of citations overkill are? Could you please point out to the specific examples that need to be altered and how (e.g. give one citation only, or whatever is your desirable format). Right now, the citations are based on published peer-reviewed scientific articles, and it is not uncommon to have multiple citations that converge on and support a topic. 2. There was a comment on the style. Can you please point out precisely where the issues are, and what changes you'd like to see.

Thank you for your input and consideration. 

Vderetic (talk) 12:00, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't look like overkill to me, but Zoglophie can comment. Cremastra (JWB) (talk) 20:28, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was that as I described previously until the most recent edit here. zoglophie•talk• 09:54, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:43, 17 February 2024 review of submission by Femspace

What’s the issue with the page can be removed but the page can’t be romoved so please give suggestions Femspace (talk) 12:43, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not he considered again, and it has been deleted as blatant advertising. If you are associated with this topic, that must be disclosed, see WP:COI and WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 12:48, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

15:07, 17 February 2024 review of submission by RobertJPierno

I don’t know RobertJPierno (talk) 15:07, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Correct link Draft:Robert Pierno, draft was rejected clearly you are not notable. Theroadislong (talk) 15:11, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

15:55, 17 February 2024 review of submission by DAFFODIL555

this is my brand name DAFFODIL555 (talk) 15:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Draft speedied, user blocked.) -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:00, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:31, 17 February 2024 review of submission by Publicrelationr

Dear All,

Thank you for your feedback. I appreciate the time you've taken to review my article submission. I apologize if my attempts to address the concerns were not satisfactory, and I acknowledge the importance of adhering to Wikipedia's guidelines.

I am open to learning from this experience. If there are specific areas where I can improve or if you have suggestions for more suitable topics, I am eager to listen and contribute in a constructive manner.

Thank you for your guidance, and I look forward to your continued assistance in ensuring the quality and relevance of Wikipedia content.

Best regards, Publicrelationr (talk) 16:31, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have answered below, please do not create multiple topics. Qcne (talk) 16:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:36, 17 February 2024 review of submission by Publicrelationr

Need a neutral advice without any bias Publicrelationr (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Publicrelationr your draft has been rejected and therefore will not be considered further. Your wrote in a completely unacceptable way and ignored all advice left by the two reviewers. Qcne (talk) 16:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your comments but where have I rejected their advise. I edited draft all the time as per their advise. Can you please have a look and be specific about the need for improvement and not make generalized comments. 78.110.76.22 (talk) 16:43, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please log in when replying.
You clearly did not take the advice as you re-submitted four(!) times today with very little improvement in the inappropriate language or sources. There is no longer any advice to give you as the draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. Qcne (talk) 16:46, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Publicrelationr, your deleted draft included overtly promotional and advertising language like showing inordinate talent in chess and is becoming known as an inspiration for young chess fans worldwide. That's not neutrally written encyclopedia language. Far from it. Looking at your username, I need to comment that any form of public relations activity is strictly forbidden on Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 08:13, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

19:08, 17 February 2024 review of submission by FayezAhmed78

Why was my page rejected FayezAhmed78 (talk) 19:08, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because you provided zero evidence of any notability. Theroadislong (talk) 19:11, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:05, 17 February 2024 review of submission by NilsenAudun

I wished to submit a page for review, and almost immediately after I pressed "publish", I got three posts about conflict of interest and then the option of submitting for review was gone, so I didn´t get a chance to press submit for review.

What made me feel real uncomfortable was that the individual who told me not to edit anything until I replied gave me a very robotic and, to me, strange reply after I reposted the requested disclaimer again on my talk page.

I don´t wish for things to be misunderstood or decided in haste, so I ask here sooner rather than later.

Should I assume that this individual has put a block on my review?

Where would I file a complaint?

This is the article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:ABL_Group

There are literally 1.000s of articles like this one. I feel a little uneasy about this. NilsenAudun (talk) 20:05, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am a real human being (as far as I know). What I posted on your talkpage are called templates. Having to explain things over and over again would get boring real quick, so the Wikipedia community has made a bunch of templates that can be used to quickly post a message to a new user explaining how (parts of) Wikipedia work. In this case I used Template:Welcome, Template:uw-paid and Template:uw-coi. I did not block anything (and I can't, we have moderators for that sort of stuff, see WP:ADMIN) and your draft has been reviewed by another user (which is why you no longer see the message asking you to submit it for review). Polygnotus (talk) 20:09, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please see WP:WAX. Basically, don't try to use another article's existence to support your article. ''Flux55'' (talk) 20:53, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@NilsenAudun I have re-added the Submit the draft for review! button. You accidentally removed it in this edit, not @Polygnotus.
However, it is not ready for submission in it's current state as there is no indication yet the company passes our WP:NORG criteria. Qcne (talk) 20:57, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is also VERY promotional in tone, which has led editors to question whether you have a conflict of interest with the topic. Theroadislong (talk) 21:30, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 18

08:20, 18 February 2024 review of submission by Etienneadaher

Why is my page rejected? I, Etienne Daher, am the CTO and founder of Ete-services

What do i need to do to have my page published? If more date is required, I will fill them, just kindly give me clear guidelines on what's requested. Etienneadaher (talk) 08:20, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing your obvious conflict-of-interest, I highly advise you NOT to make that article again and instead focus your contributions elsewhere. Wikipedia is not a place for promoting or publicizing. If your company is notable enough to warrant its own article, then please go to Wikipedia's requested article page. ''Flux55'' (talk) 08:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seeing your previous activity in the help desk, this is a guideline for notability. ''Flux55'' (talk) 08:36, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Etienneadaher: this is not social media, where you can write up your 'profile' or tell the world about yourself and your business. This is an encyclopaedia, and we publish articles on subjects which are considered notable and encyclopaedically worthy. You should probably look into the likes of LinkedIn, etc. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:37, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

09:12, 18 February 2024 review of submission by 116.90.110.117

business purpose 116.90.110.117 (talk) 09:12, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quit spamming! Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:17, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10:11, 18 February 2024 review of submission by Masudrana10

nothing Masudrana10 (talk) 10:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Masudrana10: you don't ask a question, but your draft has been rejected and is awaiting deletion. Please read and understand WP:AUTOBIO and WP:PROMO. Thank you, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:17, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

19:58, 18 February 2024 review of submission by Nicky Falcon

Hello, can you give me an advice where I should add the sources to? As was noticed UNIT EL is a wrong place, so what is the necessary place. Also I think new links meet the requirements of wikipedia Nicky Falcon (talk) 19:58, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Nicky Falcon. Please read WP:EXTERNAL. There should be no external links in the body of the text, and only one or two in the External Links section at the end. Qcne (talk) 20:05, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much, I did what you said, could you please check my work and if possible give me some advice on how to improve it. And do you think it can be sent for reviewing? Nicky Falcon (talk) 12:29, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Nicky Falcon, that is a lot better now. I would submit for review. Qcne (talk) 13:51, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:40, 18 February 2024 review of submission by JerseyCurator23

Seeking volunteers for assistance with this draft. I am unable to convince the powers that be that the Mandela Effect is a topic worthy of its own page. There is a difference between singular false memory and shared/collective false memory, and I find the need to shove the two together to be a disservice to readers. Nevertheless, I'd like to request that someone either incorporate this draft into the existing subsection or continue work on it independently so that someone up above might finally find it worthy. My work on this page is over, so its future is in your hands. JerseyCurator23 (talk) 20:40, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This forum is not for soliciting replacement editors. If you want to offer this as a proposed addition to the existing article you mention, you should use its article talk page. 331dot (talk) 23:24, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

23:41, 18 February 2024 review of submission by JuniperChill

With regards to 'WP:TOO SOON', does it mean articles should not be created before release, hence I cannot really find any reviews from Solarpunk? Or the fact the game is not notable, at least for now. Plus, I did cite sources so that it is real.

Also, are images not allowed for draftS since it won't let me upload a cover for this

Additionally,, does decline(d), deny/ied and reject(ed) mean the same in the sense of AFC since thats normally the case. Since I moved this to draft (accidentally made this an article at 1st), why did the Solarpunk (video game) need to be removed since redirects need be kept after moves/renames. JuniperChill (talk) 23:41, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @JuniperChill. Your sources do not show notability yet, because they are all WP:PRIMARY. Once the game has been released, and some mainstream websites review it or it appears in magazines, then you will likely have enough secondary sources for the game to become notable. So it is too soon in the sense that there are not yet enough secondary sources to prove notability.
The article was moved to draftspace- if it is accepted then it will go back to mainspace. The redirect was deleted under WP:CNR.
Hope that helps, Qcne (talk) 08:58, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I will take a stop from working on Solarpunk (and Draft:Sun Haven, both articles I made) for now, at least for 60 days since Solarpunk is due to release in the summer. Plus, how did it get reviewd within 30 minutes when others take a week? You also forgot to answer questions about images on drafts and the meaning of declined/rejected drafts. JuniperChill (talk) 12:51, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JuniperChill: non-free content (which I presume the images you refer to are) can only be used in the main article space. In any case, images are not needed before publication, as they do not contribute to notability or otherwise affect the draft's acceptability in any way.
Some reviewers patrol the newly submitted end of the draft pool, and therefore many drafts are reviewed in a matter of minutes. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:02, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 19

05:35, 19 February 2024 review of submission by Poketape

This article is being held to a higher standard than other tennis tournaments, such as Almaty Open and Zhuhai Championships. It is simply the nature of tennis tournaments that all required information comes directly from the ATP/WTA Tours or the tournament host. poketape (talk) 05:35, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Poketape. Wikipedia has, unfortunately, many tens of thousands of poor quality poorly sourced articles. We certainly don't want to add more to that pile. Looking at the draft now compared to when it was declined, I think it's now passed the threshold of notability so I will accept it for you. Qcne (talk) 09:00, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

11:37, 19 February 2024 review of submission by Ravikantshinde

I Understand that the article had large number of references but honestly this was for the notability proof of the work. This article needs to be accepted. Please guide me so that I can make it possible with all respect. Ravikantshinde (talk) 11:37, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like it was deleted as "unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person". It clearly DOESN'T need to be accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 11:41, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What is your relationship with Dr. Shinde? Are you a relative? 331dot (talk) 12:34, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

15:15, 19 February 2024 review of submission by 47.221.1.83

How can I include references from printed articles that are not online (from before 1994)? 47.221.1.83 (talk) 15:15, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See this for advice: WP:OFFLINE. It's important to include enough details in the citation so that the source can be reliably identified. It would also be very helpful if you could somehow indicate what the source says, eg. by including a quotation. HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 15:20, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

17:49, 19 February 2024 review of submission by MTlegends

I continue to submit my article for review and it continues to send blank. Help me understand exactly what I am doing wrong. Ryan H Wetzel MTlegends(talk). 17:49, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MTlegends: that's because your sandbox is blank.
It seems you've added draft content to your talk page User_talk:MTlegends, though, and also submitted that. I will move that to a new draft page. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One source of confusion may be that you need to click "Publish changes" to save your edits. This button used to say "save", but was changed to emphasize that all edits are public. 331dot (talk) 17:52, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got it. Thanks for the clarification. I am not a educated enough to understand how this systems work. I appreciation the guidance. Ryan H Wetzel MTlegends(talk). 18:00, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MTlegends: okay, I've moved the content to a new draft, at Draft:Walter Wetzel Sr., and removed it from your talk page. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:58, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

19:29:02, 19 February 2024 review of submission by PenmanWarrior Draft:Michele Evans

This was declined erroneously.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/nyregion/rikers-island-authors.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/04/opinion/rikers-jail-covid.html https://web.archive.org/web/20080430180657/http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/23/parker-actress-road-to-dream-tv-gig-with-robin/

There are many other articles about Ms. Evans PenmanWarrior (talk) 19:29, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have not addressed the concerns at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michele Evans. 331dot (talk) 19:35, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @PenmanWarrior. Why are you so hell-bent on getting this draft created (I presume you are the IP editor from the Articles for Deletion discussion)? Do you have a connection to Michele?
I've had a glance at the draft as an uninvolved reviewer and I do not see the notability. I see a lot of fluff about her self-published books, professional and, personal life: but frankly most (all?) of it could be deleted. You have also refbombed the defamation lawsuit paragraph, and I do not think it warrants inclusion in the article at all.
Her software engineering does not make her notable. Her self-published books do not make her notable. Her filming work does not seem to make her notable.
Her personal life (death of daughter, grandfather, lawsuit, etc) do not make her notable.
I think we might be able to get to the notability threshold by focusing on her Riker's Island incarceration? But I am not sure if it would warrant it's own article. Surely her advocacy about the conditions on Riker's island has been reported in the local or national press? The two sources and the op-ed for this are primary sources so useless for establishing notability.
My best advice going forward is to start from scratch, focus entirely on the Riker's Island stuff, and choose three (and only three) sources which are all independent of Michele, from reliable places, and show significant coverage of her.
The draft was not declined erroneously and I agree with @Muboshgu's declination as an uninvolved reviewer.
Let me know if you have any questions. Qcne (talk) 20:23, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
At what point do you stop downplaying someone's accomplishments? 6 Novels and a Children's book? You can argue self-published all you want but you can't argue it's feature in The New York Times! This is the holy grail of authors. Time to stop ignoring facts. PenmanWarrior (talk) 21:01, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are defensive and I don't appreciate the tone. Please answer the question: what connection do you have to Michele.
I am not downplaying her accomplishments. There are literally millions of authors, only a fraction are notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Her NYT op-ed is great, but we need significant coverage in multiple sources that are independent of her. Qcne (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Provided two NEW SOURCES which most definitely address concerns at the article for deletion.
1. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/nyregion/rikers-island-authors.html
2. https://web.archive.org/web/20080430180657/http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/apr/23/parker-actress-road-to-dream-tv-gig-with-robin/ PenmanWarrior (talk) 20:57, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewing your sources:
  1. NYT: This is an okay source. It is an interview with Michele but contains enough commentary to put it over the edge.
  2. Rocky Mountain News: This is an interview and a fluff piece and confers no notability.
Qcne (talk) 21:08, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1. More than an ok source. A book featured in the New York Times is the holy grail for authors. This is a known fact.
3. Define notability. Who gets to decide it's a fluff piece? It's concerning Evans' work. Show me where describing someone's work is fluff. Especially since the deletion article's only complaint was there were no sources. There are now sources, independent of Evans, which is what was demanded. Please re-read the deletion discussion. PenmanWarrior (talk) 22:06, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I give up on responding to you. I gave you constructive criticism. I have 2000+ article reviews under my belt and know what I am talking about. I also trust the consensus from the deletion discussion. This person is not notable and I hope you will be topic banned as per the ANI discussion. Qcne (talk) 22:13, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"You can be blaze about somethings Rose, but not the Titanic!" - Caledon Hockley PenmanWarrior (talk) 23:58, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
By consensus, she was not notable as of 17 January 2024, so 2008 and 2021 refs cannot help overcome that. PenmanWarrior, it seems counter-productive to take a beligerent tone and argue so strongly against those who are explaining our policies and guidelines and even giving you guidance on a route to accomplish what you want. DMacks (talk) 21:02, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your logic makes no sense. The argument in the deletion discussion was that no one could find sources that were independent. They have now been found and included. PenmanWarrior (talk) 22:07, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 20

00:16, 20 February 2024 review of submission by ProdBy.Skittlez

why im crying right now can you help me get this wiki Skittlez (Rapper) published pleased i need to get this wiki published i love yalll and enjoy ProdBy.Skittlez (talk) 00:16, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:COI and WP:PAID; but your draft has been rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 01:01, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

04:00, 20 February 2024 review of submission by Sandile Rekhotso

i need help with notable topics#Sandile Rekhotso (talk) 04:00, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sandile Rekhotso: see WP:N. While you're at it, see also WP:AUTOBIO and WP:PROMO. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:31, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

04:07, 20 February 2024 review of submission by Obyno2020

This person is notable, please I need help in creating this page Obyno2020 (talk) 04:07, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Obyno2020: notability has not been demonstrated, therefore this draft was rejected. It's not enough to say a subject is notable, we need to see evidence, and the onus for that is on the draft author. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:28, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What if I provide links to secondary sources? Obyno2020 (talk) 11:16, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Obyno2020: I can't speculate about some hypothetical sources that you might possibly provide. If they are sufficient to establish notability, then you may be onto something, but that's far from given. And in any case, you should make your appeal directly to the reviewer who rejected this draft. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:31, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

09:07, 20 February 2024 review of submission by EnCyClOpEdIA VII

Why are all my drafts getting rejected? EnCyClOpEdIA VII (talk) 09:07, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@EnCyClOpEdIA VII: I've reviewed two of them, both were entirely unreferenced, and the eggplant one was also unsuitable for a standalone article (we cannot have separate articles on eggplant, canned eggplant, dried eggplant, etc.). It's great that you're enthusiastic about editing, but you need to go about it the right way. See WP:YFA for advice on article creation, and WP:REFB on referencing. Also, read WP:N on the concept of notability, as it applies in the Wikipedia context. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:11, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

17:50, 20 February 2024 review of submission by 184.149.27.16

Hi there, I'm trying to create a wikipedia page about The Toronto Heschel School. After submitting my article, it was declined stating, "This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article." It claims my references aren't in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements), reliable, secondary, or strictly independent. I included many references that do follow each requirement but it was still declined. Not sure if I am misunderstand something. 184.149.27.16 (talk) 17:50, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was declined as blatant advertising, the content is totally inappropriate for an encyclopaedia and reads like a school prospectus, do you work there by any chance? Theroadislong (talk) 17:57, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

18:16, 20 February 2024 review of submission by NiladriSarker

can you please help me to publish my content about my company NiladriSarker (talk) 18:16, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is nothing but blatant advertising it was rejected meaning it will not be considered further and I have tagged it for speedy deletion. Theroadislong (talk) 18:29, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

22:01, 20 February 2024 review of submission by Chicken4War

Hello! I am suggesting that we merge this draft with the page for 25 Years Of Innocence. Chicken4War (talk) 22:01, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You should propose this on the relevant article talk page, this is not an issue for this board, which is for discussing the submission of drafts and the drafts themselves. 331dot (talk) 10:28, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 21

05:46, 21 February 2024 review of submission by Ngaihthang

As long as, I can I was fix my doing work and please check it for me. Ngaihthang (talk) 05:46, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, stop moving it! It's considered disruptive and if you keep doing it, you could be liable for a block. Secondly, the draft has been rejected, so I can't really help you. Flux55 (my talk page) 06:11, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

07:19, 21 February 2024 review of submission by Drrabizadeh

How can I improve the article to be published on the article page? Considering that many references cannot be defined. Drrabizadeh (talk) 07:19, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Drrabizadeh your draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. You say "Considering that many references cannot be defined" which suggests the journal does not merit a Wikipedia article at this time. Only topics that meet our WP:NOTABILITY criteria may have an article. Qcne (talk) 08:28, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is absolutely nothing in the draft to suggest that the journal is notable, so it has been rejected, it won't be considered further. Theroadislong (talk) 08:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

08:50, 21 February 2024 review of submission by 2003:E7:6724:B00:60BC:35A4:824:A9EF

I am using reliable sources for the wiki article, but it is still declined. Can anybody help? 2003:E7:6724:B00:60BC:35A4:824:A9EF (talk) 08:50, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New sources seem to have been added after the decline, and the draft hasn't been resubmitted, so yes, it would indeed remain declined. If you believe that you have sufficiently addressed the decline reason(s), you need to resubmit the draft for a new review.
PS: If you have an account, please log into it whenever editing. Thank you. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:19, 21 February 2024 review of submission by Nwachinazo1

I seek assistance for my article's references which two Wikipedia editors have reviewed and declined on the basis that they do not meet notability test. While I appreciate their efforts and time, their reason is saddening and discouraging as their reviews do not consider the contents of most references in terms of substantive coverage of the subject which establishes its notability. I wonder why third-party, reliable and independent sources referenced as 4, 5, 7, 8, 9 and 12 are considered as merely mentioning the subject in the passing. The same goes to the news source cited in number 3. Wikipedia policy notes that an article's subject must not necessarily be the main discussion in a source cited but it is notable if the source gives the subject sufficient coverage. Hence, the cited sources for my submission achieve this aim. Does a news content need to be over-detailed before Wikipedia reviewers agree with its in-depth treatment? Seriously, they have left me more confused and discouraged. Please I seek clarifications because Wikipedia policies do not append fixed rules in terms of notability through the subject's references. Nwachinazo1 (talk) 12:19, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy link Draft:Christopher Ononukwe. Theroadislong (talk) 12:21, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
References 4 and 5 are based on interviews with Ononukwe. I didn't look any further.
Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 14:13, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:20, 21 February 2024 review of submission by Drrabizadeh

How can the rejected draft be submitted after upgrading? Drrabizadeh (talk) 12:20, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It can't there is zero evidence of any notability. Theroadislong (talk) 12:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:45, 21 February 2024 review of submission by 2601:189:4100:4760:55FE:523F:AC4:3F97

I still don't understand what the problem is, and earlier I was trying to say I was trying to make an encyclopedia article, but I didn't want to to say "I intended to make an encyclopedia article", as that sounded too broad and very unprofessional. 2601:189:4100:4760:55FE:523F:AC4:3F97 (talk) 14:45, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 'problem' is that this is an encyclopaedia, not a platform for publicising things WP:MADEUPONEDAY.
This draft has been rejected and will therefore not be considered further. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:49, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:33, 21 February 2024 review of submission by WikiDan61

I'm intrerested in knowing the community's feeling about an editor who repeatedly removes prior AFC decline notices and comments from a draft. The decline templates produce comments stating not to delete the templates, but I am unsure whether there is an official policy or guideline about this. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 16:33, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I count it as disruptive editing, and would be minded to Reject. Qcne (talk) 16:37, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiDan61: drives me bonkers, just had one of those yesterday and earlier today (fortunately now blocked). In my experience they invariably turn out to be problem accounts - socks, LTAs, etc. (This one refers on their talk page to their 'old account'.) This draft is pure OR in any case, so I agree with Qcne, just reject it. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, seems to be a sock. Reported. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:17, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

17:39, 21 February 2024 review of submission by RasheedVolkman

Hey there! I've requested the review of the first draft with little references. I've expanded the list of the references now, which are external mentions and Wikipedia mentions itself. Could you please tell me If I should do something else for this article to be submitted? RasheedVolkman (talk) 17:39, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RasheedVolkman: you have only two sources, neither of which counts towards notability.
BTW, were you involved in editing the recent Draft:DeepWeb (website) draft, by any chance? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:43, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, sir. I'm not related to the draft you referred to and wasn't aware it was previously made. Thanks for your answer! RasheedVolkman (talk) 17:54, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Does that mean If there are no reliable sources in open internet, the article will be declined and deleted in the end? RasheedVolkman (talk) 17:55, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RasheedVolkman: sources don't have to be online, but they do have to meet the standard laid out in WP:GNG. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 17:59, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

18:58, 21 February 2024 review of submission by ScratcherSonic

Why is my page being deleted? ScratcherSonic (talk) 18:58, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ScratcherSonic, because you failed to establish that the topic is notable as Wikipedia defines that term. Cullen328 (talk) 20:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know that now. But, when it becomes a thing, get rickrolled. ScratcherSonic (talk) 20:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

19:23, 21 February 2024 review of submission by Bdschi

I have created a new page for the new University of Technology in Nuremberg, Germany. There is already a German Wikipedia page and I think it is also important to have an English language page. Especially as the university is seeking internal students and offers many degrees in English. How can I improve this page to get it approved? Bdschi (talk) 19:23, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please be advised that the German Wikipedia has different policies than the English Wikipedia, so what is acceptable there is not necessarily acceptable here. To be frank with you, Wikipedia has no interest in helping this relatively new university find prospective students.
Your draft just summarizes the routine activities of the University (groundbreaking, opening, hiring of staff); an article about this university must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about this university, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. I think it is probably too soon for an article about this university here. 331dot (talk) 19:45, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your valuable feedback. I didn't want to create this page to help the university to find foreign students, but to give potential students a neutral source of information.
I will follow your advice and wait and see whether this university will become a success or a failure. With only few students and even fewer departments, there is always the risk that the university gets closed again, despite all the money that was invested. Bdschi (talk) 20:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:05, 21 February 2024 review of submission by Deathinparadisefan11

Hi there! I would please like to know exactly why my article was declined. I know there could have possibly been improvements and I was eventually planning to add a picture so I was hoping someone else could help me with that when it gets resubmitted because I find it very confusing. I would like to know what else I needed to include or what I maybe did wrong in order for it to be approved as this article is very important to me and important for others. Deathinparadisefan11 (talk) 20:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Deathinparadisefan11: it was declined exactly for the reason given in the decline notice, namely that there is not sufficient evidence of the subject's notability, which is a fundamental requirement for inclusion in Wikipedia. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 20:18, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:09, 21 February 2024 review of submission by Armansalmani

Most of the journals on wikipedia have an index and I tried to create an article page for this journal. At first, it was rejected due to lack of resources, but now we have upgraded it. Please check the draft one more time and let us know if there is any error so that we can fix it and create a new article on Wikipedia. Armansalmani (talk) 20:09, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Armansalmani: I rejected this draft because a draft on the same subject has already been rejected at Draft:The Journal of Holography Applications in Physics, and you're basically just trying to game the system. Don't. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 20:23, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Armansalmani Who is "we"? Are you associated with this journal? The draft hadn't been touched since October and you seem to have created your account for the purpose of editing it. 331dot (talk) 20:24, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have nothing to do with the journal, but I intend to introduce this journal and other journals that do not have a page on Wikipedia.  I hope you will review this article and if there is a problem, please let me know so that it can be fixed. Armansalmani (talk) 20:52, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You didn't answer my question, who is "we"? It's not easy to find a draft unless you already know about it. How did you come across it? 331dot (talk) 21:31, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:13, 21 February 2024 review of submission by MathewArmstrong

This is all set for review, but I can't seem to submit it. It is saying 'An error occurred (ratelimited: You've exceeded your rate limit. Please wait some time and try again.). Please try again or refer to the help desk.' Can someone please submit this for me for review? I have tried many times. Thank you! MathewArmstrong (talk) 20:13, 21 February 2024 (UTC) Works now. Disregard. --MathewArmstrong (talk) 20:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have successfully submitted it. 331dot (talk) 20:25, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

20:16, 21 February 2024 review of submission by Xmm-newton

Formatting problem. Added blue links and removed date of birth. Infobox will no rest inline and stands above text with a scrollbar below it. Cannot find fix. Xmm-newton (talk) 20:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 22

01:37, 22 February 2024 review of submission by MarcusNguyen1988

Hi I'd like to ask why my article has been rejected. Best regards MarcusNguyen1988 (talk) 01:37, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@marcusnguyen1988: you wrote about yourself. don't. ltbdl (talk) 01:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

02:04, 22 February 2024 review of submission by Pitambar Yadav(Google)

Why is it being rejected multiple times while other villages have been added by others in similar way tooo Pitambar Yadav(Google) (talk) 02:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:WAX. Basically, since in the past, Wikipedia has hosted articles which nowadays wouldn't fit with our guidelines. Firstly, as stated in the draft, large portions of it are unsourced. Additionally, it reads like a promo for the village, which Wikipedia is not. Flux55 (my talk page) 02:18, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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