Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea

See also: ko:위키백과토론:위키프로젝트 한국

Transliteration of Cities, Towns, and Provinces of the Philippines into Hangul

Good evening! I am originally from WikiProject Philippines. And I would like to offer help to WikiProject Korea by translating cities, towns, and provinces of the Philippines into Hangul so as to aid Korean Wikipedians who are interested in creating, editing, and expanding articles that are related to the Philippines. I hope for the immediate response. Thanks! - Merrick Lee, 23:47 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Removal of Hangul

Question. Can someone comment on whether this diff in line with WP KOREA MOS or general practice? In ictu oculi (talk) 14:50, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

But I'm assuming that this edit is okay with general practice? Some guidance please. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:52, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

• "Where relevant, Korean templates should be used in preference to long lists of romanized, Hangul, and Hanja spellings," per MOS:KO. Kauffner (talk) 03:59, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

This is probably related to the MOS notice a few sections above? -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 04:25, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Portuguese in Asia

You show as (at least) one of the teams in the Asian League is Portuguese-- was this team Macanense, before reversion? Otherwise it makes little sense, as Portugal plays in UEFA, not Asia. An explanation "asterisked" to the Portuguese flag might be in order, to minimize confusion.76.104.198.200 (talk) 05:42, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Na Ri

The usage of Na Ri (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see Talk:Na Ry -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 04:18, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

File:Korean pottery maepyong 5.jpg

File:Korean pottery maepyong 5.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 05:54, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Hyundai Ambition.jpg

image:Hyundai Ambition.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 06:10, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Li family and various homophonic family names, and various spellings

See Talk:Lì (chinese surname) for a mess regarding various Lee/Li surnames. -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 04:12, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Prostitution in South Korea and Pure blood theory in Korea

User:Shrigley is attempting to associate prostitution issues in South Korea with "Pure blood theory", which have been renamed to Korean ethnic nationalism after two consensus-making processes[1][2]. There is also a controversy whether an interview of ten Korean men is sufficient enough to make sweeping arguments about Korean attitude towards transnational prostitution. Cydevil38 (talk) 11:18, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

AfC review request

Hi folks, could someone take a look at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/South Korea Ballistic Missile Guidelines Revision and see if that's fit for inclusion. I'm not comfortable making a decision on that when it is a potentially loaded issue which may subtly misrepresent things I am not aware off. Thanks, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 20:53, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Image deletion on Commons

Since WP:JAPAN has already been notified here, I thought that it would be equally fair to notify WikiProject Korea as well. On Commons, File:8-2earthquake-kanto.jpg, which is an old photograph of a Korean being killed by Japanese vigilantes following the 1923 Great Kantō earthquake, has been nominated for deletion. For those who are interested, feel free to participate in the discussion. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 10:50, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of NEASS for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article NEASS is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NEASS until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 21:14, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

carrod salat

can anyoune make an article? http://via.sawd.ch/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL3JidGguYXNpYS9hcnRpY2xlcy8yMDEyLzA4LzIxL2tvcmVhbl9jYXJyb3RfMTY0MDUuaHRtbA%3D%3D (Idot (talk) 11:05, 6 July 2013 (UTC))

CJKV characters as disambiguatory terms in article naming

FYI, this may touch on the area of concern of your wikiproject's topic. See Wikipedia talk:Article titles#Inadequacy of current WP:UE guideline with regard to Chinese names -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 06:18, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

General Yun Gwan's Photo - Recommend Replacing the Caricature

Recommend either replacing the caricature with the statue memorialized by the Republic of Korea government. See attachment.

Subject: Article on Yun Gwan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yun_Gwan

I can't seem to attach the photo. Please contact me on my email: insungolee@gmail.com and whomever does the editing, I will send you the photo. Thanks in advance.

InSung Oaks Lee

Korean prosecution service에 대한 english content

많이 왜곡되고 특정 지지세력-현재 한국의 진보세력이라고 일컬어지는 분들이 좋아할 만한 내용으로 가득하네요. 객관성이 떨어진다고 보여집니다. 적어도 한국 법이 어떤 원리애 따라 제정되고 검찰이 어떤 위치를 갖는지 법률적인 관점이 아니라 특정 세력-국회법사위나 자칭 진보세력들이 원하는대로 글을 썼다는 것이 명백하개 보여집니다.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Prosecutors%27_Office_of_the_Republic_of_Korea

This article is too biased and negative toward korean prosecution service in general. It seems that the author described Korean prosecution service from too controversial cases. Actually the right wing(half of the population supports some prosecution cases while the left wing blames them. The author wrote and understand all the mentioned cases from radical or leftist views.

Kim Jong-un.jpg

image:Kim Jong-un.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 04:38, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

남산 and 南山

Are these common ways of writing the same thing in Korean? 南山 is a disambiguation page on English WP and includes several entries for Namshan. The linked article on the Korean WP is [3], which to my ignorant eyes appears to be a different set of characters, however 南山 does appear in parentheses several times in the article, thus my question. The reason I'm asking is that 南山 has been nominated for deletion, and I'm wondering if it's reasonable to include the Namshan entries on the page.--Wikimedes (talk) 19:02, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

They are the same word, one in the hangul form and the other in the hanja form. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 03:33, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks.--Wikimedes (talk) 02:54, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Removal of Korean-language names

Somebody is making a concerted effort to remove names in Hangul from the lead sentence of articles about Korean people. If interested, please see discussion at ANI. Thanks. – Wdchk (talk) 02:10, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

There was a discussion at one of the guideline pages pushing for the removal of non-Latin-characters from the intro sentences as well. See #MOS discussion about removing non-Roman script names from lede sentence. Perhaps they are related? -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 07:05, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

South Jeolla website

Anyone else having trouble accessing http://www.jeonnam.go.kr/? I have refreshed staistical data of the provinces from the official provincial websites but this one has not been accessible for months now. Anyone knows how to contact the province to let them know about this issue? Thanks a lot Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 08:27, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Works for me. Should contact your ISP. — Lfdder (talk) 08:43, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Hm. I tried several times, from home, from the office (different internet provider there), from Chrome, IE and FF... Doesn't work... Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 09:10, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

OK, I tried from yet another computer in another system and it is working from there. It seems like the website tries to make me download an exe file and for this reason my usual computers (office and home) are filtering the website. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 10:43, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Jms in vietnam.jpg

File:Jms in vietnam.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 08:51, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Destroyed8H Cromwell.jpg

image:Destroyed8H Cromwell.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 07:05, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Can you help expand Yunggimun into a DYK?

I started Yunggimun, as I found a passing claim in a book I am reading - that it is "the oldest style of Korean pottery" - interesting. But I cannot find enough in English or Polish sources to even make half a stub; perhaps a Korean speaker could help expand this? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:57, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Heritage preservation in South Korea

Hello guys! I created this article to have a comprehensive starting point for the many scattered articles about heritage preservation. I also created a complementing navbox. Could we do a peer review on the article? I would like to nominate it for GA or FA. Kamsahamnida! Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 11:48, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

President Geun-hye.png

image:President Geun-hye.png has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:51, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Notability issue on Shin KwangHo

I believe Shin KwangHo is a notable figure in the art world. I have added more citations as well and more text. Can someone take a look at this and see if notability is an issue or not? Thank you. (Pastelchu (talk) 23:37, 6 August 2013 (UTC))

Hmmm, I am not familiar with the sources used. Wouldn't prod it on sight, but that's as far as I can go with this issue without a source review for which I don't have time. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:19, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Korean Provinces

At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_August_4, a discussion is opened to delete the template "Infobox Korean Provinces". May be you have an opinion about this discussion. Remark: at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2013_August_5, there is another discussion about deleting the template "Infobox Province of China (PRC)" Pldx1 (talk) 07:41, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment

There is an on-going dispute on the article North Korea's cult of personality, please see the RfC section of the talk page here. Coinmanj (talk) 23:19, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Chinese style name

The "style name" or "courtesy name" article is up for renaming, see talk:Chinese style name -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 23:30, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

starting a Teaching with Wikipedia program in Korea

I've come to Korea in February and I work as a professor of sociology at Hanyang University. In US I've been doing a lot of teaching with Wikipedia (Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/User:Piotrus), and I'd like to do so here as well. After my first Spring semester I have however came to the conclusion that while my lectures are in English, my students English skills are not good enough for them to focus on contributing solely to English Wikipedia; therefore I'd like to have them contribute at least partially to Korean Wikipedia. As I cannot speak Korean I would need assistance from some Korean speakers who would like to become Campus Ambassadors (https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Campus_Ambassador). I wonder if there are any Korean Wikipedians who would like to assist me with this?

I can train people to become Campus Ambassadors (it's not difficult, I just need to spend one few hour session with you showing you some case studies and tools), and then we would practice in my courses this Fall. Ambassador duties would be primarily related to interacting with students (in Korean Wikipedia in Korean), making sure they are doing constructive and on topic edits, and they have somebody to ask for help. Coming to class twice or so during the course term to meet with students in person, answer their questions, and such, is helpful, too. This is not a very demanding activity, I'd estimate that it shouldn't take more than 10 or so hours of your time for the entire semester, 20 at max (that counts the initial training, travel time for physical meetings, and time spent online interacting with students). Starting Spring, hopefully, we may be able to recruit other professors; I plan on holding a workshop about this for interested faculty, but I cannot do so until after I have at least some confirmed Korean-speaking ambassadors to help me.

For Wikipedia, this means more active editors and more articles. In US, my students were able to produce about ~20 Good Articles on English Wikipedia and few dozen other nice articles over the ~4 or so years I was teaching there.

For those of you who become CAs, in addition to helping Wikipedia, this is also something to add on your CV (good for teaching careers, good for those planning on studying abroad as it helps to show innovative extra curricular activities), and WMF may send you swag like shirts, stickers, bags and similar goodies. So, particularly for those of you who are currently at the university, think of it as a good career move. This is not only for students (although majority of CA begin as students). If you are an academic instructor (professor), this is good for our careers, too (I am speaking from personal experience here, too). If you are a teacher and would like to get on board of this, I'd be happy to help you out, too.

Let me know if you are interested in this, ideally I would like to meet with interested volunteers in August. I will have two classes each with ~30 or so students contributing to Wikipedias (English and Korean) beginning in September and I really hope to get some assistance from Korean Wikipedians for that. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:56, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

I'll take you under my wing as I can provide Regional Ambassador services. Luckily, I'm exactly 12 hours away, so the times work out conveniently on my end, as long as no one attempts to do anything in the afternoon. In that sense, if anyone is interested, let me know, and I can interview prospective candidates and grant ones deem qualified the rights. I would encourage anyone who is interested to apply, as this has the potential for a very successful program, as long as people are aware of the norms of both projects (i.e. naming conventions on the Sea of Japan, etc.). Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:08, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Have you thought of also using simple: ? The Simple English Wikipedia, if their English skills are not sufficient for English Wikipedia, perhaps it is sufficient for SIMPLE? -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:05, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Simple is no solution, I am afraid. The problem is that the content produced by the students looks for the most part like the output of a machine translation: full or errors of all kind. Instead of writing simple English sentences (which are perfectly fine on regular Wikipedia, too), they try to produce complex English ones (and yes, I've tried asking them to keep it simple, which did not appear to affect the problem at all). If anybody is interested in the quality of content produced, please see here. The potential is there, but without a Korean speaker to help me, I am not going to be able to harness it properly, I am afraid. PS. Can anyone repost my request at Korean Wikipedia? So far I posted to the wikimedia-kr@lists.wikimedia.org and here but I haven't heard from a single interested volunteer :( --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:30, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that's anything a copy editing group couldn't fix, as my experience with Koreans who are learning English is that they are very grateful when you help them out. I'm wondering Piotr if you could find anyone who also has a near-native level of English skill and see if they could help you, because it might lessen some of the burden that you might face. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:50, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I know such people, but none of those I know seemed interested in helping out as a CA. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:20, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi! :) I'm a rather new (and inactive) user here, but Kevin told me I might be of some help, since I'm a Korean who can speak English. I'm entering International School next week, so I might not have enough time after that, but I'll be glad to help in any way until then. Thanks, Bella ^{tête-à-tête} 06:01, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Belinda, I gather you would be able to help only online as an Online Ambassador, not in person, right? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:13, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, my school is in Ilsan so I probably won't be able to do anything offline. I'm not exactly sure what an Online Ambassador is though; tell me what I can do. :) Bella ^{tête-à-tête} 12:41, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, that's fine. While you may want to read about Wikipedia:Ambassadors, what I'd need help with is monitoring student activities on Korean Wikipedia. I have two courses, to which I'd invite you to add yourself (as an Online Ambassador): Education Program:Hanyang University/Sociology of Globalization (Fall 2013) and Education Program:Hanyang University/ English Readings in Information Sociology: Understanding Wikipedia (Fall 2013)

In the globalization one, the students will be tasked with translating an article (one article for one student) from English to Korean Wikipedia. All that will be needed is that by mid November when they are posting them to Korean Wikipedia those articles are given a brief look over - to make sure they are properly translated (i.e. the students didn't simply paste the English text into Google translate and are trying to pass the resulting half-gibberish as their work). They may also have trouble formatting the articles, so they may benefit from some advice on that.

For the wiki course, majority of the work will be done on English Wikipedia, so I'll supervise it myself. The students however will be required to make 5 edits to Korean Wikipedia each week, so their edits, particularly in the beginning, may also require an occasional supervision, to make sure they are not getting themselves into trouble.

I hope we will get assistance from some additional ambassadors (I'd like to train a group) so hopefully we will get more help! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:18, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I'll see what I can do! Bella ^{tête-à-tête} 11:35, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

{{States and territories of East Asia}}

Template:States and territories of East Asia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:19, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

{{Four Asian Tigers}}

Template:Four Asian Tigers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 03:41, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:User pyongyang

Template:User pyongyang has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. 76.65.128.222 (talk) 02:07, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:User North Korea

Template:User North Korea has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. 76.65.128.222 (talk) 02:07, 2 September 2013 (UTC)