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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk16:23, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Law Is Too Slow, 1925 lithograph by George Bellows
The Law Is Too Slow, 1925 lithograph by George Bellows

Created by Drmies (talk) and Uncle G (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 17:00, 5 May 2021 (UTC).[reply]

  • Here's my review...
  • 1935 New York anti-lynching exhibitions - brand new article, long enough, citations in every paragraph, appears to be written neutrally. Problem - the spring of 1935 violates MOS:SEASON, please correct. I do see the sentence at the end of the "Organization and background" section, that should be put towards the start of the section.
  • Lynching of George Hughes - brand new article, long enough, citations in every paragraph, appears to be written neutrally
  • Death (statue) - brand new article, long enough, citations in every paragraph, appears to be written neutrally, appears to be written neutrally
  • Aaron Goodelman - brand new article, long enough, citations in every paragraph, appears to be written neutrally, Earwig is happy with the online sources not being plagiarized
  • This Is Her First Lynching - brand new article, long enough, citations in every paragraph, appears to be written neutrally
  • The Law Is Too Slow - brand new article, long enough, citations in every paragraph, appears to be written neutrally
  • Lynching of Henry Lowry - brand new article, long enough, citations in every paragraph, appears to be written neutrally
  • Sources - most of these articles are sourced to the Apel and Heid books, which I was able to read some of on Google Books. I'll AGF for any detail that I may not have seen in those snippets.
  • Image - present in The Law Is Too Slow and Lynching of Henry Lowry, is relevant to the hook and listed as being donated to Wikicommons, so PD, and shows up well enough at this size
  • The hook - Removing the bolded characters from the hook for the purposes of counting, this hook is still over 200 characters. WP:DYKSG C3 says that we can make exceptions for multiarticle hooks, if it is reasonably compact and readable. The hook could be made more clear. Does the hook benefit from mentioning the lynching of John Carter? How was the NAACP "using" the lynching of Henry Lowry?
  • QPQ - three out of seven done

Muboshgu, I appreciate you. I know I got some more QPQs to do, but man, I'm watching this documentary on Betty Davis and it is quite something. Anyway, SEASON was new to me, and I can't say I like it, but I fixed it--put in the dates, added a journal article to verify. Here's a tweaked lead--the first lead was actually a lot longer, and John Carter was in there but I submitted him separately I think. Drmies (talk) 00:04, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Great. I see one more minor issue though, a small discrepency in dates. In the 1935 anti-lynching article, section "Organization and background", it says in the first paragraph that the NAACP exhibition was Feb 15 to Mar 2, and the second paragraph says the Artists' Union exhibition was Mar 3 to Mar 16. Then the last sentence of the section says they were Feb 15 to Mar 1 and Mar 2 to Mar 16, respectively. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:43, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vanguard Group?

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Drmies, I'm not sure, but I don't think the link to the Vanguard Group is right here. According to Marlene Park (page 363), the "Vanguard" group involved was that started by Louise Thompson and Augusta Savage – see here for a description. What to do? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:51, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Justlettersandnumbers--thanks. I can't see what's behind those links, but I do have Apel's book here on my desk. She confirms it's indeed the group started by Thompson and Savage. So I guess there were two groups, both communist, of the same name? Drmies (talk) 13:06, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, yes, that's my question, really – it seems so improbable, so much more likely that they'd be one and the same. The Vanguard Group page is based entirely on one source, and I can find no mention of either (Louise) Thompson or Savage in that. The two groups seem to have had a rather different ethnic scope too, one apparently at least partly Jewish, the other definitely black American. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:21, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Plus there's Harlem vs. Bronx. I think we have some work to do here. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 13:43, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]