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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk09:54, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anne Hatchard in 2019
Anne Hatchard in 2019

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:21, 11 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Full review to follow (a preliminary DYK check seems to check out though), but I was wondering if another hook could be proposed here. The hook may not really appeal to non -fans of the AFL or those who live outside Australia. I think a more promising hook could be based on this: Melbourne, who usually play home matches at the 9,000 capacity Casey Fields oval in Cranbourne, had their home preliminary final moved to the 100,000-seat Melbourne Cricket Ground, which was the first time the Australian Football League's largest venue had hosted an AFL Women's match. One issue, of course, is that it's talking about the preliminary final (what Americans would call a semi-final) rather than the Grand Final itself. Another option could be the low attendance for that match being blamed on last-minute schedule shenanigans, though I think that would be too negative. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:20, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    That hook would be great except that it doesn't include this article. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 12:05, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    What do you mean by "it doesn't include this article"? That the quote is about the preliminaries rather than the final? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:08, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    That hook doesn't contain a link to 2022 AFL Women's Grand Final, which is the article nominated for DYK. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:08, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Perhaps wording can say something like "preliminary [final] for the 2022 AFL Women's Grand Final" or something to that effect? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:34, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    No, the preliminary final is a different match, with its own article. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:33, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I really don't think the original hook is working out so I suggest that a completely new hook be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:34, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Jasmyn Hewett
Jasmyn Hewett
  • ALT1: ... that the first goal of the 2022 AFL Women's Grand Final was kicked by Jasmyn Hewett (pictured), a late inclusion to the team?
    Source: "The inclusion of Jasmyn Hewett as ruck cover for the suspended Montana McKinnon paid immediate dividends, taking a mark on the goal-line and converting a set shot for the opening goal, 10 minutes into the game." [1]
Still prefer the original hook. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:18, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article was created on time (note that it was recently promoted to GA status and so is also eligible per that). No close paraphrasing was found and a QPQ has been done. ALT1 is better than the original hook but I think a hook about this quote Harris became the first woman to play in three grand finals playing for three different teams; all of them against Adelaide. may be the best possible option at this point. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:00, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Substantial GA, on excellent sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the original hook best, but suggest to just turn it around, mentioning the game first. The image is licensed and attractive, much more attractive by dynamic action vs. the other, standing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 ... that in the 2022 AFL Women's Grand Final, Tayla Harris (pictured) became the first woman to play in three different grand finals for three different teams?
Tayla Harris playing for Carlton in 2019
Tayla Harris playing for Carlton in 2019
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:15, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This one seems more accurate than everything else proposed above. 117.97.199.77 (talk) 07:17, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The other hooks are not inaccurate. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:56, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Requesting feedback from Gerda Arendt and Hawkeye7 regarding ALT3. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer to work on new things to being called back to this. The image is not as powerful as the original, and the hook seems more about the player than the match. Perhaps someone else will approve it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:40, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We cannot use a picture that is not in the article. It is also a dubious honour and articles and hooks that focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:56, 5 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:2022 AFL Women's Grand Final/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Steelkamp (talk · contribs) 03:03, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Hello. I will be doing a good article review of this article. I aim to complete my review within the next day or so. Just so you know, I am familiar with the sport.

If you would like to return the favour, I have several good article nominations active right now, which you can find at WP:GAN. Steelkamp (talk) 03:03, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:55, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good article criteria

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Well written

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  • The match commenced with Adelaide's key midfielders Erin Phillips, Anne Hatchard and Ebony Marinoff starting in the centre square. – No mention of Melbourne's players? Steelkamp (talk) 05:13, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Verifiable with no original research

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Broad in its coverage

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Neutral

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Stable

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  • No edit wars or content disputes as far as I can tell.

Illustrated, if possible

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General

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Alright, good enough to pass now. Steelkamp (talk) 09:28, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:AFL Grand Final which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 23:16, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]