Talk:53rd Street station (BMT Fourth Avenue Line)

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53 street BMT 4th Avenue line[edit]

The station is closed from March 27th 2017 to October 2017 as part of The 2015-2019 Capital program Brandonq721 (talk) 00:19, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:53rd Street station (BMT Fourth Avenue Line)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 10:09, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Comments

  • Infobox:
  • "a few " doesn't seem particularly encyclopedic.
    • minus Removed
  • "and subsequently modified" relevance?
    • minus Removed
  • "n June 22, 1915 as" comma after 1915.
  • "June 18, 1906 after " comma after 1906.
  • "plan for the line in October and November 1907" approved in two separate months?
    •  Reworded
  • "As part of negotiations" sentence has " and ... and ..." which is a little clunky.
    •  Fixed
  • "was recommended. This recommendation" repetitive.
    • minus Removed
  • "its Chief Engineer" no need for caps?
  • "contracts for ... was awarded " were?
  • Could link BMT Sea Beach Line?
  • "on June 22, 1915 as" comma after 1915.
  • "53rd Street opened" ->" The 53rd Street station....
  • "$633,000" etc, inflate.
  • "85 feet (26 m)[13] to the south,[16] " -> "85 feet (26 m) to the south,[13][16] "
  • "2015—2019 " should be an en-dash, not an em-dash.
  • "March 27, 2017 for " comma after 2017.
  • " reopened on September 8, 2017,[25] ahead of schedule.[26]" -> " reopened ahead of schedule on September 8, 2017.[25][26]"
  • In the Station layout, 45th and 59th Street are overlinked.
  • As is side platform.
  • "and a few rush-hour " see before.
    • minus Removed
  • "were installed.[citation needed]" speaks for itself.
  • "mosaics[26]" move ref to end.
  • " Brooklyn Daily Eagle" is a newspaper, should be in italics.
  • Check for consistent link of publishers (e.g. MTA is sometimes linked) in refs.

That's all I have. On hold. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 15:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man, thanks for the comments. I think Kew Gardens 613 has done most of these. I have done the station layout queries. Can I ask that you hold off on promoting for a few days (at least until he comes back)? I would like to nominate these all as part of a single DYK. epicgenius (talk) 23:11, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @The Rambling Man: Due to Passover, I won't be able to do any editing from tonight until Thursday evening at the earliest. I am still committed to addressing your concerns with the article. Thanks for your patience and stay safe.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 23:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    No problem at all. Chag pesach sameach, and stay safe too. See you when I see you. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 06:38, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kew Gardens 613, let me know when you're good for a re-review. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 18:13, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kew Gardens 613: would you be fine if TRM did a re-review? epicgenius (talk) 23:52, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: Absolutely! Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 10:13, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man, I think all of the issues have been resolved here. Have you had a chance to look at the 59th Street station page yet? epicgenius (talk) 16:35, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Happy with this, so promoting. No, I haven't looked at 59th yet, but I plan to get onto it soon. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 18:52, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Improved to Good Article status by Kew Gardens 613 (talk) and Epicgenius (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 12:41, 25 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Individual reviews
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Review of 9th street DannyS712 (talk) 19:53, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Fourth Avenue/Ninth Street station/GA1 is just over 7 days before nomination, but IAR

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Review of 25th street DannyS712 (talk) 19:57, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Review of 45th street DannyS712 (talk) 19:57, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:45th Street station (BMT Fourth Avenue Line)/GA1 is also a tad over 7 days, but IAR

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Review of 53rd street DannyS712 (talk) 19:57, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Review of 59th street DannyS712 (talk) 19:57, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Review of Union street DannyS712 (talk) 19:57, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Review of Prospect avenue DannyS712 (talk) 19:57, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

General

@Epicgenius: for ALT1, I struggled to find the fact on the source linked - where on the page is it / what paragraph am I looking for? --DannyS712 (talk) 20:43, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, ALT0 isn't really interesting, and can I suggest "9th" instead of "Ninth" to be consistent? --DannyS712 (talk) 20:45, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
DannyS712, thanks for taking this up. ALT1 is actually split up into two different locations in all these articles. I will add these sources to the lead of all the articles. Yes, we can switch "9th" for "Ninth". I have suggested ALT2 too, same source as ALT0. epicgenius (talk) 20:49, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Epicgenius: I meant where in the source is the information / what paragraph in the source page am I looking for? --DannyS712 (talk) 20:52, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
DannyS712 For ALT1, for the first source, the relevant paragraph is on the right side of the page toward the top. The second source is offline. For ALT0/ALT2, the relevant page range is offline but you can check this source too. epicgenius (talk) 20:59, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, the Eagle source also mentions a competition between two trains using the Sea Beach and West End lines, stopping at these stations. Would that make for a good hook? It is not cited in these articles yet. epicgenius (talk) 21:01, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, found the part in the source for ALT1. But, it appears to only say the extensions were authorized / funded, not that they occured --DannyS712 (talk) 21:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DannyS712: I might have picked the wrong source. Could you check out ALT3? epicgenius (talk) 21:10, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The stations aren't all mentioned in the source for alt3 --DannyS712 (talk) 21:15, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
All right, for ALT1, I have added this source to all the articles. For ALT0/ALT2, five of the seven stations are mentioned (all except 45th and 53rd) and there are other sources (like this and Cudahy) which show that all of the Fourth Avenue stations opened at the same time. I will add these soon. epicgenius (talk) 21:25, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DannyS712: So apparently my ALT3 was wrong. I have added an ALT4. Can you take a look at this? Many thanks. I have also fixed the sourcing for ALT0 and ALT2 across all pages epicgenius (talk) 21:50, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have collapsed the individual reviews to make this more manageable, and removed the AGF for the source for the hook, since it looks like it'll be a different hook than the one those were for. I'll take a look at the alts proposed. Other than the hook being interesting, in the articles, and cited, the other requirements are met. --DannyS712 (talk) 06:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ALT0: Red XN not interesting
ALT1: Rejected Source does not confirm the hook - it says the extensions were authorized / funded, not that they occured
ALT2: Red XN not interesting
ALT3: Red XN Was withdrawn by nominator
ALT4: Interesting enough, AGF for offline sources. Will check that it is in all the articles and sourced, but barring further complications it should be okay
Alt4 is approved --DannyS712 (talk) 03:28, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately given the overlap between articles, some of these fall short of the minimum 1500 characters of original prose. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:50, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah and Nikkimaria: Would it be all right to remove the 45th and 53rd Street links, given that they are almost identical up to the Exits subsection? These seem to be the odd ones out (having not opened with the rest of the stations). So basically this? epicgenius (talk) 17:03, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What content are you counting towards which article? Nikkimaria (talk) 17:08, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, seems to add up. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:36, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting ALT5, which has been approved verbally. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]