Talk:787 series (JR Kyushu)

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On 12 March 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to 787 series train. The result of the discussion was Moved to 787 series (JR Kyushu).

Requested move 12 March 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to 787 series (JR Kyushu). Consensus on the alternate proposed title. – robertsky (talk) 14:57, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

787 series → 787 series train – For disambiguation. The 787 series is a series of Boeing airplanes, including the 787-8, 787-9, 787-10, BBJ 787-8, BBJ 787-9, etc. The pageview ratio between the two articles is around 300:1 in favor of the airplane series. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 05:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 13:28, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

support per nom—blindlynx 15:19, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also suggest 737 series → 737 series train —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:38, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest the possibility of redirecting instead to 787 series (JR Kyushu) and likewise 737 series (JR Hokkaido) (and the retired 717 series to 717 series (JR Kyushu)) per existing 207 series articles, WP:TIJ is of relevance. Exp691 (talk) 00:50, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. 787 series should redirect to 787 (disambiguation) -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 05:35, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for reasons of consistency. Use parentheses like Exp691 said if necessary. Nyamo Kurosawa (talk) 09:05, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This points to a much wider issue: the naming scheme used for JR train articles leads to ambiguity and worked much better (even if not very well) when Wikipedia was considerably smaller than it is now. A while ago, I proposed that all JR train articles follow a clearer naming scheme (e.g. <operator> <train name>) similar to how articles for other operators' trains are named, but it never picked up any steam. XtraJovial (talk • contribs) 18:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment. @BarrelProof, Blindlynx, Exp691, Nyamo Kurosawa, and XtraJovial: I see an overall consensus to move here, but there's some doubt about which disambiguator to use so I'll give it one more week. Please could everyone comment on the alternative proposal put forth, to use 787 series (JR Kyushu), 737 series (JR Hokkaido) instead of appending train? — Amakuru (talk) 13:28, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
support Amakuru's suggestion. Nyamo Kurosawa (talk) 21:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

somewhat prefer "train", since it is 1) simpler / easier to understand, 2) more concise, and 3) a WP:NATURAL disambiguator. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:22, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Amakuru's suggestion - clearer. XtraJovial (talk • contribs) 00:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Amakuru's suggestion and consistency with 207 series (207 series (JR East) and 207 series (JR West)) articles. Exp691 (talk) 03:46, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Amakuru's proposal. S5A-0043^Talk 14:21, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I think that was Exp691's proposal, just repeated by Amakuru to focus the discussion. I don't object. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:23, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.