Talk:Abra, Kadabra, and Alakazam

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Good article Abra, Kadabra, and Alakazam has been listed as one of the Video games good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
February 22, 2011 Good article nominee Listed

Image[edit]

What are the plans for an image here? We have to tread carefully on fair use, and not simply paste three images together. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 20:06, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure that we'll have much else of an option, unless there's a screenshot floating around of all three together in the anime. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 20:16, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Didn't we just copy and paste Koffing and Weezing together? Why cant we do that for this trio? Does it violate copyright rules to edit Sugi's artwork to merge them? Blake (Talk·Edits) 20:44, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Well, that'd be three fair use images, which may be viewed as excessive. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 20:53, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
I am sure the GA/FA reviewers would understand that we cant really do any better. I mean all the Pokemon articles have the Sugi artwork. We cant break the chain by using something else! Blake (Talk·Edits) 23:32, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

OK[edit]

What makes these three stand out a among the other PKMN? What have they done to deserve an article? Alpha CuboneKing! Bone bone bone! 02:28, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

We have enough information on their development and enough Reception for them to meet the notability guidelines. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 03:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
As I said at Talk:Mr. Mime, just look at the Critical reception section, and you will see why it is notable. If you can find this information for other species of Pokemon, then we can make a separate article. Being merged into the lists doesn't hinder its growth on Wikipedia, though. We could get most of this information for other Pokemon and put it in the lists. Its just alot of work for 500 different ones. Blake (Talk·Edits) 12:27, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

WP:VG assessment[edit]

A few things:

  • Once it evolves into Alakazam, ... requiring psychokinesis to hold it upright. → seems a little long-winded. I suggest splitting that sentence with either a period or a semi-colon.
    • Fixed.
  • Remember, it's Pokémon in italics when referring to the series of games thereof; it's "Pokémon" without italics when referring to the actual creatures.
  • Kadabra and Alakazam are the only known Pokémon that ... → IIRC, Pokemon are referred the same way as human beings, so that should be who.
    • Removed. Not sure why it was there as it is trivia.
  • In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Alakazam is the leader of a Gold Rank rescue team. He is already a great leader but strives to better himself further to be like his hero, Lucario. He plays a large supporting role in the plot of the game. → Sentence structure is a little choppy there. I would try to make that into one or two fuller sentences.
    • Merged sentences. Removed bit about Lucario as it doesn't really need to be there.
  • That second short paragraph in the "In video games" subsection should be merged into the previous paragraph.
    • I changed some things around, added a bit, and merged the paragraphs. Is what I changed ok?
  • I am tempted to say that all three paragraphs in the "In anime" subsection should be merged into one, but I can see how such a paragraph would be a bit long and winding. It's up to you if you want to do that. I'm just a bit concerned that those paragraphs could be developed a bit more, like you've done in the "Design and characteristics" section.
    • Done. I rewrote much of it to make it seem more uniform. Maybe when we go for FA, we can expand everything back.
  • IGN described Abra's evolutionary line as "losing most of its charm" as it progressed, calling Abra cute, describing Kadabra as having "a bit of that personality", but Alakazam appearing as a "distinctly grim, foreboding character". → Sentence structure is not very good here. It seems to make more sense to split into two separate statements by a period or semicolon.
    • Fixed.
  • ...with the hosts noting them as some of their favorite...WP:PLUSING as listed in bold.
    • Does "as the hosts noted" sound better?
  • ...Pastor Eugene Walton distributed pamphlets describing the symbols... → Same as above.
    • "distributed pamphlets that described the symbols"
  • Per MOS:NBSP, you need to insert non-breaking spaces between dollar amounts (in this case, $100 million)
    • Thanks for fixing this.
  • This source http://faqs.ign.com/articles/388/388623p1.html doesn't look like it's reliable; it looks like it's self-published by a user, like something from GameFAQs.
    • The writer has been shown to be a staff member of IGN. The guides were endorsed in several articles, and the writer has their own staff email address.

Get the above stuff addressed, and I'll tick it as B-Class. All in all, nice work. Try and find some more coverage if you can, and it's almost ready for a run for WP:GAN. –MuZemike 22:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Commented. Working on other half now. Blake (Talk·Edits) 00:54, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Done. What do you think? Blake (Talk·Edits) 01:40, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Looks good, I'll give it a pass for B-Class. One more thing, now that all those sections in the "Appearances" section are down to single paragraphs, it may not be a bad idea to remove the subsection headings, as they're not necessary needed. Anyways, good job. –MuZemike 02:19, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Golden Jackal or Dreamtime Dingo?[edit]

They seem more like a Jackal/Dingo/Coyote than fox like. I only thought of Dreamtime Dingo because Abra is always "asleep", and with Gen V's Dream Smoke. Anyhow, I've always nammed my Abra/Kadabra ANUBIS, now I find out Golden Jackal's can grow horns(not as big as Houndoom's) called Jackal's Horn, which are said to have mystic properties... I also sent an Anubis themed Kadabra evo to GF, among a bunch of pkmn ideas. They said they didn't take fan art/etc, but several similarities popped up in Black/White, so I'm excited for the NA release :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.34.173.171 (talk) 23:53, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

Review can be found here the outcome pass.Symbol support vote.svg

Gj to all that participated. AerobicFox (talk) 01:27, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

While I would have liked a more established editor review it, I thank you for your time. MuZemike (talk · contribs) said that all it needed for a GA run was more coverage, and a whole paragraph of reception has been added since then. So I think it would have passed either way. Thanks, Blake (Talk·Edits) 02:08, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Meh, it's understandable you would want a more established user. I feel confident though that this article's GA status would hold up to closer scrutiny, so feel free to be at ease about that.AerobicFox (talk) 02:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Ref dropping[edit]

IGN Rank 91 Kadabra DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 10:50, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

I already put this in there. Thanks, Blake (Talk·Edits) 13:22, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

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