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Literal meaning[edit]

Article needs literal meaning of province name, and Han Tu. Badagnani 07:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

"An Giang" stands for "Peaceful River".--AM (talk) 19:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Hòa Lộc[edit]

Add info about Hòa Lộc, a town known for its mango production. Badagnani 05:27, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Han Tu again[edit]

An Giang territory used to be a part of Long-Xuyen Province until the time of Republic of Vietnam! Offcially, this name is only about 50 years old. Therefore, the name of An Giang hardly has a Han Tu version. Same as before, I ask for source.--AM (talk) 19:49, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

At least the etymology of the name (which in this case is undoubtedly Sino-Vietnamese) should be presented in some part of the article, as it should be for any WP article about any place in the world. Badagnani (talk) 07:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

In my opinion, this high-doubtedly Han Tu merely is a Chinese translation from a Vietnamese name since the Vietnamese stopped using Han Tu in writing in 1945. And I strongly condemn any reckless copy'n'pasting edits like this addition.--AM (talk) 12:01, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

This is not the issue. The issue is that at least the etymology of the name (which in this case is undoubtedly Sino-Vietnamese) should be presented in some part of the article, as it should be for any WP article about any place in the world. Badagnani (talk) 06:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
OK so what is the "Peaceful River" stands right in the infobox, isn't a etymology? Why should we add Chinese character for "An Giang" since this name hardly has a Chinese version? I repeat again, the name of "An Giang" is only 50 years old (the province was established in 1957).
Let's get the things straight here, the problem is that you always try to insert Chinese character into Vietnamese-related articles regardless of the abandoning of Chinese character in Vietnam. Moreover, you simply copied Chinese character from Chinese Wikipedia and pasted it into the article!--AM (talk) 10:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
That is not the issue. The issue is that removing the origin of any place name from any article on a place at our encyclopedia (regardless of individual editors' tendencies toward nationalism) is wrong, and should not be engaged in, because our users must be foremost in our minds with each and every edit we make. Badagnani (talk) 17:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

An Giang is mentioned in Dai Nam Nhat thong chi, the Nguyen Dynasty's official gazetteer. The 1960 translation into Vietnamese did provide the Chinese characters for the name as 安江 (p. 37). DHN (talk) 23:45, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: move allDarkwind (talk) 06:07, 10 January 2013 (UTC)



– Revert capitalization to pre-September 2011 status where it was unilaterally changed and soon opposed. It is also current consensus. NVanMinh (consensus is at WP:VIETPLACE which follows WP house style.) (talk) 17:41, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

  • Oppose – no rationale given. Checking one, I find that about half of books use lower case province, which, per MOS:CAPS, suggests that lower case is appropriate in WP. Dicklyon (talk) 05:34, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment. AP style ("geographic names", pp. 104-105) is to lower case, Chicago (§8.55) is to upper case. This ngram suggests that real world usage is split. There was an editor was felt quite strongly that these titles should be capitalized, so I wrote WP:VIETPLACE to accommodate. Whatever the outcome of this RM, that style is fine with me. Kauffner (talk) 14:26, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Support Yes. NVan is correct, we tend to use capital letters for names like this.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:30, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Support per Blofeld. I've always seen capitalization as traditional in such cases; never known it to be otherwise. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Support per nom & Dr. B; we use English capitalization at the English language WP. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:41, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Support Deep into reflection and research on this issue, I think I'm convinced by the nominator's arguments. Given that both types of usage are common enough to support usage here, I can support the change. ༆ (talk) 22:54, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Support per Dr B. and Ser Amantio di Nicolai, except Ha Giang province which should instead be restored to → Hà Giang Province with correct à per reversion of undiscussed move three weeks after contrary 07 Aug 2011 geo RM. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:34, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
  • I see that the nominator has been banned as a sock puppet. Kauffner (talk) 08:34, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Support per consensus Moagim (talk) 22:35, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Support per consensus -Kai445 (talk) 05:20, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
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More moves needed[edit]

Per the above consensus these should be moved too:

Thanh Pho Can Tho (talk) 16:50, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

 DoneDarkwind (talk) 15:33, 1 February 2013 (UTC)