Talk:Bedroom Farce (play)

Requested move 1 November 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No Consensus - Numerically there were four support !voters, two oppose !voters, and one !voter in favour of maintaining Bedroom Farce as a DAB (and thus essentially opposing the proposed move). Additionally there was discussion about what the primary topic in this case actually was involving a few non-!voting editors, which also cast doubt on the proposed moved to a limited extent. WP:DIFFCAPS is a well-grounded argument, but so is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and on this basis, this discussion (which has already run for three weeks) does not appear to have arrived at a consensus to move. This is particularly so when two of the !voters supporting moving did so on the basis that there were only two topics, however a third potential topic that might be referred to by this title was introduced later in the discussion. FOARP (talk) 17:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bedroom Farce (play) → Bedroom Farce – unnecessary disambiguation Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 19:08, 27 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 05:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jean-de-Nivelle It appears that Bedroom farce has about twice the pageviews of the play, so more likely, the alternative capitalization of Bedroom Farce should redirect to Bedroom farce instead. Raladic (talk) 21:27, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Raladic That's a good point, but wikinav analysis ([1][2]) shows that only 13% of "Bedroom farce"'s traffic is from search results, the majority coming from internal links, while over 60% of "Bedroom Farce (play)"'s traffic is from "other search" - if I'm interpreting the results correctly. Worth an RM, or would WP:RFD be a better course? Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 10:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since I believe you'd still like to move Bedroom Farce (play) to Bedroom Farce, I'd say a RM is probably best to answer both the question of if it should be moved, or if not, if Bedroom Farce should instead redirect to Bedroom farce as a redirect from alternative capitalization and then just post a note at the lowercase article to let people watching that article know about the RM. Raladic (talk) 00:19, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since there seems to be debate over which of the two topics is PTOPIC, and it's been flipped over the years, I'd say it's likely there isn't one, so I've just made Bedroom Farce a disambiguation page. This will have the additional benefit that if people link to the wrong one then they'll get a warning. — Amakuru (talk) 21:07, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support having a DAB at Bedroom Farce. Particularly but not only as now it's three-way. Andrewa (talk) 05:34, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:DIFFCAPS. Hatnotes serve the disambiguation needs here. Delete the disambiguation page to make way for the move. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:05, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:DIFFCAPS. Only two articles and the play gets a good deal of interest. No need for a dab page. Station1 (talk) 03:37, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. DIFFCAPS is an appalling way to disambiguate. We're supposed to be helping our readers, not pandering to the smugness of Wikipedia insiders. Redirect Bedroom Farce to Bedroom farce. The broad concept is the clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:58, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Necrothesp, as uppercasing is just another way to spell the primary for the wording, Bedroom farce, where uppercasing should stay as a redirect. A hatnote, the usual way Wikipedia handles these type of two-article similarities, could point readers to the play. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is a 3rd topic, a 1984 episode of Duty Free, which has a section in the episode listing -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good catch! Andrewa (talk) 05:30, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:DIFFCAPS. Move Bedroom Farce to Bedroom farce (disambiguation). Theparties (talk) 07:26, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.