Talk:Boycotts of Israel in sports

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removals[edit]

Roscelese - why did you remove items from the list? Not anything in wiki needs to be given a web proof. Anyway, if you understand Hebrew I can send you ALL the verified articles with these information. NONE OF THEM is made up!

I don't think they're made up, but my personal belief isn't enough. You have to cite them to a) reliable sources that b) contain the statement. Yes, things on Wikipedia do have to be cited (not necessarily to sources available online, but to specific sources), especially when they are about living people. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 00:30, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Continued BLP violations[edit]

123o, you've really got to stop adding information which does not appear in the cited sources. To do so is always a violation of Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and because this information is about living people, it's even worse. You cannot cite a statistics table or a bracket in support of the claim that someone forfeited a match for political reasons. Period. It's not in the source - don't add it. Nor is it acceptable to find an otherwise reliable source which states that the athlete dropped out, and to speculate that it was for political reasons. If you can't find a source for it, it doesn't belong in the article. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 03:09, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Examples: Ahmed Nabil vs. Gregory Baskin sourced only to this list of participating athletes, Ayatollah Ashraf vs. Marina Kravchenko sourced only to this bracket, similar, Mohammed al Ghareeb vs. Amir Hadad cited to a Wordpress blog, a few cited to this article which doesn't name the non-Israeli athletes, etc. Unverified information about living people simply cannot appear on Wikipedia. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 20:55, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Merge into Boycotts of Israel[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
There is no consensus for a merger. Closing per WP:AN request.  Sandstein  19:21, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

The article is forked and technically there is not such "Arab-Israeli conflict in sports" per sources. Moreover most of the incidents involve non-Arab Muslim nationals (Iranians). It can however be an integral pasrt of Boycotts of Israel page. Please vote Support or Oppose, with a proper explanation.Greyshark09 (talk) 21:05, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

  • Support. Given the predominance of Iranians among the boycotters, you're quite right that the title is misleading, and Boycotts of Israel is already set up to deal with non-economic boycotts (academic, artistic - athletic would be just fine). Would you suggest keeping the table of names/events/dates? –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 07:10, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Sure, we can keep the table under "Boycotts in sports" title, or something in this order. Considering the issues previously rased here, I hope there are no additional problems of reliability and copyrighting in this regard.Greyshark09 (talk) 16:06, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Oppose. This is certainly appropriate for a stand-alone. It is robust enough, and distinct enough. The fact that it often involves non-Arab Muslims does not mean that it is mis-named, either -- for example, the Entebbe hijacking was still part of the conflict, even though it was conducted largely by non-Arabs.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:29, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Note. I think that the table which dominates this article is non-encyclopedic, and should be dramatically shortened and summarized to a few notable incidents, based on high quality secondary sources. I cannot see how keeping this extensive list of minor incidents would be useful for our readers. This is not what an encyclopedia is about - we should aim for readable, high quality articles, focusing on important trends and concepts, not collections of random raw data. Marokwitz (talk) 15:05, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
  • Comment - since i myself support the merger, i will turn to an uninvolved part to close the discussion.Greyshark09 (talk) 19:59, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Move notice[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved as proposed in the absence of any opposition. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 14:20, 15 May 2012 (UTC)


Since it there was no consensus to merge this page into boycotts of Israel, i herewith propose to accordingly rename this page to "boycotts of Israel in sports". "Arab-Israeli conflict" is not fit here, since most of the boycott actions were made by non-Arab sportsmen(mostly Iranian), and effectively the boycotting action itself is not really a conflict. Please vote. Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 06:37, 6 May 2012 (UTC) Greyshark09 (talk) 18:06, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

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