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I am taking a course in American Indian Religions and Philosophies. In my research of Brooke there seems to be questions about her enrollment in the Crow Tribe. Has anyone confirmed her enrollment in an American Indian Tribe?

Wildrock (talk) 22:42, 19 March 2013 (UTC) Here is an image of her Enrollment Certificate from the Crow Tribal Council. I suggest you check with the Crow Tribe to verify, if you are concerned. http://web.archive.org/web/20050410203451/http://www.medicine-eagle.com/tribal_certificate.htm[reply]

Incorrect information Correction

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This article is factually inaccurate and incomplete and does not meet basic criteria. Three main policies cover content: neutral point of view (all articles must take a fair, balanced and neutral stance), verifiability (facts in articles must be verifiable from reliable sources), and original research (users' and editors' opinions and "popular knowledge" are not suitable for encyclopedia articles).

It is very negative and not neutral. Reference number 1 charges "Members of the Crow Tribe say these are forged documents." This links to a dead link, it is not not verifiable. Reference number 2 links to and opinion article in the Senoma County Free Press an online newspaper and is not even opinion of the paper. Reference number 3 while quoting a published source infers AIM (American Indian Movement) sanction and contains a threat that can not be verified as the quoted source does not now or never did officially exist. (SW AIM) I do not object to the article reference only the inference of official AIM censure and threat.

I would like to insert the following revision and remove the inaccurate and unverifiable charges.

Brooke Medicine Eagle is a non-traditional Métis Earth Wisdom teacher, singer/songwriter/recording artist, author, sacred ecologist, Earth-healing ceremonialist, and catalyst for wholeness. Although she is an enrolled member of the Crow Indian tribe, her primary identification is as an Earthkeeper along with a global family of Earth caretakers and healers. She has blood lines from other native tribes as well as European and Scandinavian ancestry. Her offerings have generated controversy among fundamentalist Indian circles, yet she firmly believes in sharing vital knowledge about living well and sustainably on this sweet Earth with all peoples in this critical, chaotic, and transformative time.

Brooke was raised in a half-breed rancher subculture on the Edwards family ranch in the high mountain country of the Crow reservation – an off-grid homestead where water was carried from a spring, horses were used for farming and transportation, and food was produced through gardening and hunting. She attended school in nearby Bridger where she was valedictorian of her high school class, and went on for the BA from the University of Denver, where she was a Centennial Scholar, Ford Foundation Fellow, and graduated with Summa Cum Laude honors. She pursued doctoral work in Somatic Therapy at the Humanistic Psychology Institute in San Francisco during the consciousness awakening of the early 70’s. Brooke has contributed chapters to many books, and hundreds of articles (see bibliography and current information about Brooke at www.MedicineEagle.com). She is the author of her spiritual autobiography Buffalo Woman Comes Singing, and a book of deep history and inspiration for this awakening time, The Last Ghost Dance.

Her formal education was enhanced by study with native elders and master teachers across the United States and around the world. She vision quested under the guidance of the Keeper of the Sacred Hat Lodge of the Cheyenne’s; trained with amazing Israeli healer and body therapist Moshe Feldenkrais in his first organized program; received Permaculture certification from Bill Mollison; learned Neuro-linguistic Programming from Bandler and Grinder; spent time with sustainable builders like the famed EarthShip creator Mike Reynolds (architect); studied the profound Somatic Experiencing trauma release work of Peter A. Levine; and carries a Peruvian Incan energetic healing way called Healing the Light body.

Although she is a Montana native and still considers that home, Brooke lives a quiet life at her FlowerSong orchard/garden sanctuary in the Okanogan Valley area of north central Washington, where she raises food and flowers and creates waterfall beauty.

Rickgmt (talk) 17:34, 17 March 2013 (UTC) [reply]

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I've raised the issue at WP:BLPN#Brooke Medicine Eagle where you might want to respond if no one posts here. (I am an Admin but this really isn't an issue for an Admin at the moment). Dougweller (talk) 17:50, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WTH is half-breed rancher subculture? I probably don't want to know. I would hold off on the above addition for now. --Malerooster (talk) 02:53, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1984 Southwest AIM resolution

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From a Native Son: Selected Essays in Indigenism, 1985-1995 By Ward Churchill has a copy of the resolution on page 364. It refers Edwards (under another of her names, "Brooke Medicine Ego) as a non-Indian woman.[1]. The A to Z of Shamanism" by Graham Harvey, Robert James Wallis mentions the resolution, adding "Native American groups and websites such as "Gohiyuhi/Respcct" and the Center for SPIRIT cite her as a "fraud" and unlikely to be enrolled as a member of the Crow Nation."[2] Dougweller (talk) 15:44, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wow quoting a Ward Churchill article about whom is Indian enough is amazing considering flack he has received. (I admire most of his work) I just want to get correct information about Brooke and her 35+ years of work. The hostility about racial and traditional purity appalls me personally. I do not care if the AIM statement remains but I am going to remove the threat contained in the article. Brooke is controversial in some circles as is every spiritual teacher in Indian Country. She also has many friends and supporters and defenders. Calling her a fraud for violating a tradition she never claimed to to teach or follow is just plain wrong. Rickgmt (talk) 02:13, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Since you and others edited this article, it now gives no context or explanation about why the resolution was passed. I don't mind the threat being removed, but I can't see how any reader will understand the reason for the resolution. Dougweller (talk) 09:18, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Outdated information Correction

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This information is many years outdated. Edwards is based in Montana, where she lives with her partner Sunny Baba.[citation needed] Brooke is a Montana native and still considers that home, Brooke lives a quiet life at her FlowerSong orchard/garden sanctuary in the Okanogan Valley area of north central Washington. No Partner Rickgmt (talk) 19:00, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't have a published source for this, don't add it. As per the message at the top of the article. Obviously it was fair to remove the outdated information, because that wasn't sourced either. Sionk (talk) 17:56, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Rickgmt (talk) 19:00, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Taken to BLPN (again)

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As we have an editor unhappy with a source, I've raised the issue at BLPN. I've also raised an issue about a claim for documentation of her name and ancestry as there doesn't seem to be any such documentation. Dougweller (talk) 06:08, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just realised that the bit about documentation was added by the same editor, who also added material (now removed) from [3], the "American Buddha Online Library". I can't follow the reasoning that makes that a reliable source and Center for the SPIRIT (Support and Protection of Indian Religions and Indigenous Traditions) not a reliable source. See for instance [4] and for the center's director John P. Lavelle[5]. Dougweller (talk) 06:17, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What is her tie in to yoga?

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The largest frequency of hits for her name seems to be to yoga related mags. Whats her deal in that sphere? or is that just where she advertises?

and not that this is a reliable source but she seems to have some connection to Neuro-linguistic programming if we can appropriately document it. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:22, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe [6]? Saybrook University is the old Humanistic Psychology Institute. Also [7] and more. Dougweller (talk) 20:49, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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I am concerned about the negative bias on Brooke Medicine Eagle's page

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HI WikiPeople! I am writing to ask for help...Just for background, I am an original internet user since 1986 when I got my first email account, and was one of the first to develop training on how to use the Internet back when I was a student at University of Michigan and later working at CIESIN (Consortium for International Earth Science Information Network - www.ciesin.org) where I designed a week long hands on course called "The Complete Environmental Internet". I just share that so you know although I don't have experience editing wikipedia pages, I have been using the internet before it first had the ability to display an image and watched it grow step by step since the late 80s, early 90s. Over all these years I have always found wikipedia entries most informative when I do a google search on almost any subject.

That changed recently when I found the wikipedia page on Brooke Medicine Eagle.

I recently participated in an online conference called Shamanic Dreamkeepers https://www.shamanicdreamkeepers.com and Brooke Medicine Eagle was one of the most genuine and inspirational speakers out of dozens who shared their story - in fact, one of the other current shamanic teachers mentioned having been led into the profession by finding a copy of The Last Ghost Dance by Brooke and told how reading it changed her life, too...I'm sure the majority of those expert shamanistic healers who presented were inspired by Brooke's earlier works \\

After the conference, I decided to google Brooke Medicine Eagle to see if she had any new books out, and I found it very unfortunate that her bio on wiki is so negatively slanted, and I am writing now because she really deserves a more fair treatment...

I have to say it shocked me that wikipedia admins have allowed such a negative portrayal to remain online, of a woman who, through the contributions of her books, especially the Last Ghost Dance; her music, like, A Gift of Song; and her spiritual teaching presence at healing workshops and retreats has made a huge positive impact on my life, and the lives of countless others. Personally, I credit Brooke Medicine Eagle with helping to save my life from depression, and literally improving my actual will to live, by helping me connect to my Higher Self and find my true sense of purpose in this life, better than any other teacher or healer I have worked with...I am certain, from my actual personal experience that there was nothing in the workshop I attended (Dancing the Circle of Light, Mazomanie, Wisconsin, 2004) that would actually have offended anyone of full Native American background. Brooke Medicine Eagle is one of a very small group of true spiritual leaders on the planet...her biography definitely needs some help to accurately describe this beautiful soul.

I have been reading up on the wikipedia policies on biographies on living persons, and I see that some have suggested changes to the page before but they don't seem to have been made, or if they were they have reverted back.

So First, I wonder would it be ok for me to request that at least someone PLEASE delete, or give me the ok to delete the definitely inappropriate link under the term "Plastic Shaman"? this is highly subjective, negative, and untrue. seems by my reading of wiki policies to be against the intention of the biographies of living persons.

Second, it is a shame that what seems like a personal vendetta against her by this ONE (now deceased) detractor "John Pretty On Top" mentioned in the now no longer even available online "blog" Sonoma County Free Press..the link now points to a copy of the article on the internet archive wayback machine which seems to me to make it quite a stretch to call it an authoritative source.

It appears this guy also was arrested for robbery (https://www.justice.gov/usao-mt/pr/joseph-pretty-top-sentenced-us-district-court), which is a shame, but I fear his "alert" may have been a personally biased attack that may have influenced people to stay away from Brooke Medicine Eagle, which would be a truly unfair theft of her ability to support herself financially and a theft of the experience others might have benefitted from, as I did, by attending one of Brooke Medicine Eagle's healing workshops.

Would it be ok to make some updates to her page just to make it more neutral and balanced? I'm not personally connected to Brooke Medicine Eagle, but I do know from my own experience with reading her book, listening to her music and actually attending a weekend workshop that she led were too AWESOME to let this poorly written, negatively biased "biography" to remain uncorrected....

Thanks, BlissEffect — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blisseffect (talk • contribs) 16:01, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Yuchitown This article is being hijacked to promote Brooke Edwards' Pretendianism. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 04:49, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Buh! I'm almost wrapped up with a major project, then can catch up on Wiki. Thank you for the head's up. There's a few articles in need of fact-checking! Yuchitown (talk) 19:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]
@Blisseffect, you might want to read these links: WP:TLDR and WP:WALLOFTEXT. It really does not matter how many years of internet usage you have, it does not give you more credibility than any other editor here. We go by policies and guidelines established by the community through the process of consensus, and we also go by what verifiable, independently published reliable sources say, see WP:RS. An individual's "personal experience" is not considered a RS for the encyclopedia. Netherzone (talk) 22:01, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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