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Closure of the Lawn[edit]

10/1/08 Removed the "Closure of the Lawn section." Reason: the article used somewhat accurate information to depict a completely wrong situation. The main reason the Bryant Park lawn is closed is because - it is sod and not a real lawn, such the Central Park lawn - it is incredibly busy, packed with people, and the use generates a lot of stress - it drains poorly, again a condition of the sod and the relatively low-quality dirt under it. Corporate events are in fact prohibited from renting the lawn. Only Fashion Week uses it, because the City of New York allows them to do so, against the wishes of the private management company. They are on record on this topic. So it is in fact he opposite of what was claimed: the public sector (City of New York) is responsible for allowing the 46 days a year closure, not the management company. Finally, it is very likely that the reason PPS put Bryant Park is in its hall of shame is because of the relationship between the principal of that company and that of the Bryant Park Corporation. No visitor of the park would make such an outlandish comment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spqrxxi (talkcontribs) 20:37, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

  • Note the above comment was added by someone who started the page for "Dan Biedermann," the executive in charge of Bryant Park. Seems a blatant conflict of interest, and another example of how the management/PR team in charge of the park manipulates this page, to the extent that the whole article reads like an ad. The issues originally raised in the article were the increasing private use of the park for corporate sponsored events, which occupy the park at the expense of quiet public enjoyment. As a New Yorker I can confirm that the facts in the original edit are true, and in this decade park users have witnessed a steady erosion of Great Lawn time available for use by the public. It's gotten so bad that these days, if you show up with your sandwich during the summer, chances are you either find the Lawn closed, or it's open but there is some noisy event happening on it -- and once the event is over, the lawn closes! Note that the park rep who wrote the above talks about the lawn having drainage problems, which I know from personal experience (a wet behind) is quite true, but that doesn't stop them from allowing Clear Channel, and HBO, and the Yankees, and other big corporations, from using the lawn to shill their wares. This is the situation which was described by the PPS when it put the park into its "Hall of shame" so it's rather a stretch for the BP rep above to claim that the Hall of Shame rating comes just from a clash of personalities! Jewish-wargamer (talk) 17:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Citation revised[edit]

I have revised the citation for "Bryant Park Today", linking to the more substantive chapter of "The Culture of Cities", which deals with the exclusivity of the redesigned park rather than the intro section in which it is more briefly mentioned.--Coldwater4 (talk) 17:14, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

External links[edit]

Should there really be that many external links? These are all basically news articles and can be turned into citations. Epicgenius (talk) 20:00, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Then do so. BMK (talk) 20:23, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 Done – I moved all except 3 URLs up. Epicgenius (talk) 00:31, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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