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Intelligence Citations Bibliography for Articles Related to IQ Testing

I have posted a bibliography of Intelligence Citations for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human intelligence and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library at a university with an active research program in those issues (and to another library that is one of the ten largest public library systems in the United States) and have been researching these issues since 1989. There is a very good discussion of Cox's work in Shurkin's book Terman's Kids, which is a good read in general by an experienced science writer who had the first independent access to the Terman study files. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research and to suggest new sources to me by comments on that page. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 20:49, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Early life

Little is written about Catharine's early life (pre-marriage/pre-professional). A decent amount of information can be found in Robert Sears' article about her in the The American Journal of Psychology. This information will be added by me/my group in the next few weeks. DeSpa49 (talk) 03:35, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Catharine and Walter

The work that she did with her husband was a major part of her life. This is especially true as she was a predominant figure in a mostly male field. I have the intention of adding/citing the information found in their joint articles as well as from her biography. This will add detail to both her personal and professional life on her page. DeSpa49 (talk) 03:41, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography

The current bibliography cites "Three Hundred Geniuses" several times. In hopes to eliminate any repetition, I will review this article in an attempt to condense the current bibliography somewhat. DeSpa49 (talk) 03:43, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Psychology and Sex

The contributions that Cox-Miles had with Terman daling with Psychology and Sex. They Wrote a book together and it eventually led to many disagreements between the teacher and student pair. Cox-Miles views were different thatn some of those of Terman so not as much of her work was published in the book as she was believed to have actually contributed. Cox-Miles was a feminist, and she also did many studies on sex differences and the psychology behind them, also studying women and the pregnancy process. Noting that women should feel an empowering experience with childbirth. Brooke.bjerke (talk) 17:39, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Intelligence Testing

Catharine did a good amount of research and had substantial contributions to some Intelligence research done with IQ testing that my group and I will be adding to this page.Brooke.bjerke (talk) 18:08, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Catharine Cox Miles

This article can be improved by adding more information about the subject (Catharine Cox). For example, her work and what she had accomplished during her career period. We can also add more background information about Catharine cox, so that way we better understand more about her. There are different ways that we can collect her information, like finding articles online (Google scholar and Online database) and finding books. For example, we should consider reading book called “Terman's Kids”. One of the Wiki editors suggested to read this book since it has a good discussions about Catharine Cox work Sadia.abdulkadir (talk) 21:53, 9 October 2014 (UTC).[reply]

To Do List

This article is pretty basic and will likely be treated like we are starting from scratch.

1. CCM early life- her parents, birth, schooling, interests, and anything that comes before (pivotal event) I'm not sure what this will be but this section will likely cover birth to college.

I would really like to be in charge of this section of the wiki. DeSpa49 (talk) 04:14, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2. CCM and Terman- IQ testing. This seems to be Catharine's most important contribution to psychology. A bit from Terman's Kids/how CCM was involved should be included in this section.

3. Her work with her husband- What did they do together? Did she lead him or did he lead her in their research? I know they met while both working under Terman and Walter had an interest in vision (he is called a "vision expert). Unfortunately, Walter does not have his own wikipedia page so we will not be able to link the two. But using research that Terman did with Walter and what Terman did with Catharine, I think we'll be able to make a good connection.

4. Read "Early Mental Traits of Three Hundred Geniuses"- This piece was huge for CCM. If you search the word Greatness on Wikipedia, Catharine's book is explained in its own subsection, right after Galton, as an argument for Greatness (superiority, being "better") being attributed to genetics. This is also something I would be willing to/enjoy working on. DeSpa49 (talk) 04:14, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

5. Add in some of the more substantial contributions she made about her sexual differences ideas and theories, including posting about the masculinity-femininity scale she helped develped. I would enjoy doing this section.

6. Elaborate again on some of her research with IQ testing, it has been stated already but she has quite a bit of it. I could elaborate, again, on the study she did on achieved eminence and IQ, and would like to do so. Brooke.bjerke (talk) 16:16, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

7. Since Catherine Cox Miles was known for her role on intelligence, it is always good idea to look at more of her work on this area. There are different article she wrote about Intelligence, and I will be happy to contribute and edit more about this area.

8. While also looking at her work on sex difference in association of ideas-in terms of the subject and in terms of the stimulus and responses. I will also contribute this area of her work. In addition, there is a book called Terman's Kids which has good discussion about Catherine Cox Work, and I believe we can get more information from this book too Sadia.abdulkadir (talk) 21:05, 17 October 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Outline

Catharine Cox Miles

insert brief description about why she is relevant and has a Wikipedia page- mention her connection to Terman and 300 Geniuses"

Early Life

Parents, birthdate, hometown, siblings, school, personal interests

Education

college, college studies, noteworthy events

Work with Lewis Terman

IQ testing, link to Lewis Terman's wiki page and Stanford-Binet,

publications

noteworthy publications/research that Terman and CCM produced together, this is where we can discuss Terman's Kids

Early Mental Traits of 300 Geniuses

a brief summary of the book, reviews, criticisms, discuss CCM's genetic approach to psychology

Walter and Catharine

professional work together, research conducted, where they worked, the focus of their collaborations

Personal Life

any personal events that can be found- this could span from college to end of life

DeSpa49 (talk) 04:14, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Psychology and Sex

Cox's work with Terman and their development of the masculinity and femininity scale they developed in 1936

Achieved Eminence and IQ

One of the specific contributions of her research, dealing with achieved eminence and IQ relations. This study could be described and also maybe added to the above category listed dealing with IQ testing

Brooke.bjerke (talk) 16:11, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Influence of speed and age on intelligence scores of adults

One of Cox’s work on Intelligence where she examined age difference among adults. This study can be added to the IQ section of this article for more improvement about Cox’s work.

Sex difference in the association of ideas

This article was written Cox along with Lewis M Terman where they looked at the role of sex differences in association with ideas Sadia.abdulkadir (talk) 20:27, 17 October 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Outline Revisited

In the handout "Editing Wikipedia articles in Psychology", Wikipedia suggests a different outline than what we have come up with as follows:

Lead Section

Academic Career

Major contributions

Publications

Legacy

Do we, as a group, think we should follow this guideline previously set up by Wikipedia? If so, I would like to cover the Lead Section and Legacy. I would be willing to help with all of the other sections as well. We can apply what we came up with in the previous outline to these 5 sections. DeSpa49 (talk) 17:17, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A guideline like that is just a suggestion, and should follow what the sources say about the person. The topics you mentioned in the earlier talk page section would, in many cases, fit well as subtopics in the model outline shown here. For example, the specific topics that Cox Miles researched could fit under Major contributions quite readily. (I'm watching this page, and may soon post a few references, but I see you are working together on fixing the article, so have at it.) -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 21:08, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

Early Life ^[1] DeSpa49 (talk) 17:12, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Early Mental Traits of 300 Geniuses ^[2] DeSpa49 (talk) 17:12, 16 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

^[3] Brooke.bjerke (talk) 16:28, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

^[4]Brooke.bjerke (talk) 16:28, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

^[5] Sadia.abdulkadir (talk) 22:41, 17 October 2014 (UTC).[reply]

^[6] Sadia.abdulkadir (talk) 22:41, 17 October 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Psychology's Feminist Voices ^[7] DeSpa49 (talk) 16:50, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Getting Miles Away from Terman ^[8] DeSpa49 (talk) 17:25, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Catharine Cox Miles: 1890-1984, The American Journal of Psychology, Volume 99(3), 1986.
^ Early Mental Traits of 300 Geniuses, Catharine M. Cox, Genetic Studies of Genius Series, Stanford Unv Pr, 1926.
^ Hegarty, Peter. "Getting miles away from Terman: Did the CRPS fund Catharine Cox Miles's unsilenced psychology of sex?". History of Psychology. 15 (3): 201–208. doi:10.1037/a0025725.
^ Simonton, Dean Keith; Song, Anna V. "Eminence, IQ, Physical and Mental Health, and Achievement Domain: Cox's 282 Geniuses Revisited". Psychological Science. 20 (4): 429–434. doi:10.1111/j.1467-9280.2009.02313.x.
^ Miles, Catharine Cox; Terman, Lewis M. "Sex Difference in the Association of Ideas". The American Journal of Psychology. 41 (2): 165. doi:10.2307/1415233.
^ Miles, Catharine Cox. "Influence of Speed and Age on Intelligence Scores of Adults". The Journal of General Psychology. 10 (1): 208–210. doi:10.1080/00221309.1934.9917723.
^ Catharine Morris Cox Miles, http://www.feministvoices.com/catharine-cox-miles/, 2010.
^ Hagarty, Peter (2012). "Getting Miles Away from Terman: Did the CRPS fund Catharine Cox MIles's Unlicensed Psychology of Sex?". History of Psychology. 15 (3): 201–208. doi:10.1037/a0025725. {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

Nice job, group!

You guys have done a good job of generating the to-do list, outlining topic, listing references, and dividing task. Please not that an experienced Wikipedian is paying attention and seems willing to help. (I've already thanked him and told him he is appreciated! J.R. Council (talk) 02:00, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Check WeijiBaikeBianji's user page and you'll find out about him. J.R. Council (talk) 02:04, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback for Assignment 9

General comments: You’ve already done some great work to improve this article. There’s still a little bit to go, but you are well on your way to final wrap-up.

See the brochure, Editing Wikipedia Articles on Psychology, 2nd page, Organizing your article/An article on a psychologist.

Would be nice to add her picture
Also add:

Infobox scientist. Look at other Wikipedia biographical articles (e.g., James J. Gibson )to see how infobox is used.

Comments on specific sections of the main article follow:

1. Lead-in

good

2. Education

good, but title Academic career and indicate professional positions that she held after earning Ph.D.

3. Catharine and Walter

don’t use proper names
title section, Marriage and family

4. Psychology and Sex

this looks good

5. Intelligence

this looks good

6. Publications

good

7. Final section

add a section titled ‘Legacy’ about her general importance and impact on psychology
- highlight her as a pioneering woman psychologist

J.R. Council (talk) 22:50, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

SafeAssign/Final Wrap up

I submitted the wiki to safe assign and the only site that came up flagged was Wikipedia. Nice Work, Team! I really wish we could bulk up the "Legacy" portion. CCM was an awesome lady and we should give her credit for it. If either of you have ideas or want to add something directly to the page, I would totally encourage you to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DeSpa49 (talk • contribs) 18:39, 1 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It was a fun project group, and i think our page looks awesome! The public can now get a little better understanding of Catharine Cox now than what her page previously showed, which was very brief. We did a good job in my opinion! Brooke.bjerke (talk) 20:53, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[Catharine_Cox_Miles-1] Catharine Cox Miles: 1890-1984, The American Journal of Psychology, Volume 99(3), 1986.

[Three_Hundred_Geniuses-2] Early Mental Traits of 300 Geniuses, Catharine M. Cox, Genetic Studies of Genius Series, Stanford Unv Pr, 1926.

[3] Hegarty, Peter. "Getting miles away from Terman: Did the CRPS fund Catharine Cox Miles's unsilenced psychology of sex?". History of Psychology. 15 (3): 201–208. doi:10.1037/a0025725.

[4] Simonton, Dean Keith; Song, Anna V. "Eminence, IQ, Physical and Mental Health, and Achievement Domain: Cox's 282 Geniuses Revisited". Psychological Science. 20 (4): 429–434. doi:10.1111/j.1467-9280.2009.02313.x.

[5] Miles, Catharine Cox; Terman, Lewis M. "Sex Difference in the Association of Ideas". The American Journal of Psychology. 41 (2): 165. doi:10.2307/1415233.

[6] Miles, Catharine Cox. "Influence of Speed and Age on Intelligence Scores of Adults". The Journal of General Psychology. 10 (1): 208–210. doi:10.1080/00221309.1934.9917723.

[Catharine_Morris_Cox_Miles-7] Catharine Morris Cox Miles, http://www.feministvoices.com/catharine-cox-miles/, 2010.

[Miles_Away_from_Terman-8] Hagarty, Peter (2012). "Getting Miles Away from Terman: Did the CRPS fund Catharine Cox MIles's Unlicensed Psychology of Sex?". History of Psychology. 15 (3): 201–208. doi:10.1037/a0025725. {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help)

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