Talk:Darwin Núñez

Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2022

116.89.27.148 (talk) 01:50, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

he plays for epl club liverpool

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. 💜  melecie  talk - 01:55, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Do we wait for an official announcement by the club or do reliable sources like Fabrizio Romano or Sky for example count too? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wewetoto (talk • contribs) 15:03, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

The sources you have listed do not/have not confirmed the transfer and have merely mentioned upon the transfer itself being "close". An official announcement, preferably by the club itself, is required. RavenRTC (talk) 16:00, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2022

Hi,

My my calculation Nunes has made 18 appearances for Liverpool and scored 12 goals (not counting todays match vs Tottenham (2022-11-06). 92.244.206.160 (talk) 17:44, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Aoidh (talk) 07:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

We need to remove the section which says not to.

Here’s my reasoning: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Scientelensia?markasread=273894463&markasreadwiki=enwiki#Darwin_Nunez_article Scientelensia (talk) 17:32, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

@Scientelensia: I've moved it to an appropriate section. (Darwin Núñez#2022–23: First season at Liverpool) Mwiqdoh (talk) 18:33, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Mwiqdoh!

Proposition 2

In light of previous events, I am suggesting without any kind of disrespect a proposed introduction which comments on Nunez’s impact and notability and is also up to date in terms of trophies. I am not going to add this unless it is approved :)

Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈdaɾwĩn ˈnuɲes]; born 24 June 1999) is a Uruguayan professional footballer who plays as a forward for Premier League club Liverpool and the Uruguay national team. Núñez is known for his explosive speed and proficient technical football ability.

Núñez came through Peñarol's youth academy, being promoted to the first team in 2017. In August 2019, he joined Spanish Segunda División club Almería for a club record fee. Benfica signed him in 2020 for a club-record transfer worth €24 million, the most expensive signing in Portuguese football history. In his second season, he won the Bola de Prata for top scorer in the Primeira Liga with 26 goals in 28 games, being named in the Primeira Liga Team of the Year and Primeira Liga Player of the Year. Liverpool then signed him in June 2022 for a transfer worth €75 million (£64 million).

After representing Uruguay at various youth levels, Núñez was called up to the full international team for the first time in October 2019, scoring on his international debut against Peru. Despite missing the 2021 Copa América due to injury, Núñez went on to represent Uruguay at the 2022 FIFA World Cup. Scientelensia (talk) 20:50, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2023

Could you add these in the (External links)? Darwin's S.L. Benfica profile: (https://web.archive.org/web/20220615191924/https://www.slbenfica.pt/en-us/futebol/plantel-principal/darwin) (archived), Darwin's Primeira Liga profile: (https://www.ligaportugal.pt/pt/liga/clube/20212022/ligaportugalbwin/278/jogador/76907) (live link), Darwin's La Liga profile: (https://www.laliga.com/es-GB/jugador/darwin-nunez) (live link) and Darwin's Peñarol profile: (https://web.archive.org/web/20180513055338/http://www.peñarol.org/uc_5663_1.html) (archived). I think it will be better if you add his clubs profile and Leagues in sequence Like this:

• Liverpool F.C. profile
• S.L. Benfica profile
• Peñarol
• Premier League
• Primeira Liga
• La Liga 154.180.144.77 (talk) 09:55, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. Also read WP:EL. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:33, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2023

Could you add this to external links ? and his ID is: 70287 41.238.104.161 (talk) 09:46, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

 Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:34, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 November 2023

Could you add this to external links ? and his ID is: 70287 41.47.185.92 (talk) 18:24, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

 Done Don't know why it was removed. Liu1126 (talk) 00:02, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 November 2023

in the "2023-present" section, there's a space that should be removed between "24 september" and reference 77. 186.137.202.132 (talk) 03:46, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

 Done HouseBlaster^talk 04:04, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

This needs to be reverted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Darwin_Núñez&diff=prev&oldid=1187128035 Scientelensia (talk) 10:49, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I couldn't do it with a simple undo, so hopefully I've reverted (and kept) all the correct instances. -- MacAddct1984 ^{(talk | contribs)} 11:40, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks very much! Scientelensia (talk) 11:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Quote boxes

Quotes help to paint an accurate picture of the subject. For reference, see for example:

Lionel Messi#2003–2005: Rise to the first team

Lionel Messi#2005–2008: Becoming a starting eleven player

Lionel Messi#2009–10: First Ballon d'Or

Lionel Messi#2012: A record-breaking year

Lionel Messi#2013–2014: Messidependencia

Lionel Messi#2016–17: Fourth Golden Boot

Cristiano Ronaldo#2003–2007: Development and breakthrough

Ronaldo (Brazilian footballer)#Cruzeiro

Ronaldo (Brazilian footballer)#1999–2002: Recurring injury problems

Steve McManaman#Popularity and Legacy

Pelé#Legacy

Steven Gerrard#2004–2007: Champions League and FA Cup success

Should I give some more examples? Let’s give more colour to this article. Scientelensia (talk) 14:13, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

How about you STOP Wikipedia:Ownership of content. You’ve don’t nothing but revert for the past few months on this page. ChurCuz (talk) 14:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Regarding those recent reverts, I'd have to agree with that. Regardless of whether you think you're right, please start following WP:BRD more often. Forcing content into articles as you often do is completely disruptive. Michaeldble (talk) 15:20, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Ok, but why do we have to remove the quote box? Scientelensia (talk) 10:39, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

You have provided no reason for this… at least explain this for me, and explain why putting in a quote box is ‘completely disruptive”. There are no rules against such boxes… Scientelensia (talk) 18:18, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

@ChurCuz, who I believe may be RossButsy(?): This is factually untrue. If you look at the page stats, one can see that I have actually written 25.7% of this article. I have contributed a lot recently. Scientelensia (talk) 10:39, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

The only contributing you’ve done is edit war with myself and two other users one of which is an administrator. ChurCuz (talk) 15:09, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Please actually read the edit history before insulting me cruelly in this way. I may have to take this further. You don’t have to do much to find that I have added 86,834 bytes of text to this page. Scientelensia (talk) 15:15, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

If you want to threaten me it won’t go well for you. ChurCuz (talk) 15:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Please don’t be mean. Scientelensia (talk) 15:20, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

If you’ve written over 25% of the article then clearly you’ve got a sense of ownership over this. You’ve turned the page into a battleground think we’re past the stage of discussion now since you show no sign of stopping your reverting. ChurCuz (talk) 15:16, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

No, I just want to contribute? Scientelensia (talk) 15:20, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Your contributions are AWFUL. Blacklisted sources, non notable magazine esque trivia. I get you’re a fan of this player clearly but you need to STOP. Like I said you’ve had your edits reverted by at least 4 other users and you’ve routinely come back to restore them for many months now. ChurCuz (talk) 15:23, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps it is your contributions which are not constructive. Change the sources. I appreciate they are backlisted. I didn’t know this before and removed the ones I was told to. Therefore change the sources instead of destroying the content.

Personally, I find your manner rude and somewhat intimidating. If you are indeed RossButsy, then given your previous actions this does not surprise me.

I made mistakes but on the whole my edits are good. Actually look at my contributions. I’ve written most of the text in the Liverpool section, and it has been trimmed to make it better by others. Anything wrong with that? Scientelensia (talk) 15:26, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

We’re not talking about the Liverpool section we’re talking about the constant reverting of other areas on the page. You were blocked once for ownership behaviour already on another Liverpool player. The user you keep referring too is retired from Wikipedia not that it has any relevance anyway. ChurCuz (talk) 15:31, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

No? I don’t want to push it but the name RossBusty redirects to you? Perhaps a mistake (idk). Scientelensia (talk) 15:33, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Also, do you know that the ‘nickname’ and ‘known for’ format are applied in articles including Luis Suarez and Edinson Cavani. So why not here? Why do you say it is not notable? Please read my edit summaries before reverting. Scientelensia (talk) 15:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Sure they are but not here. It’s three against one the content isn’t and will never be notable. Please STOP reverting and thinking you own the page. ChurCuz (talk) 15:48, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I don’t think I own this page, otherwise I wouldn’t be trying to understand you…

Please don’t insult me ad hominem in this way.

Why are they not applied here? Please answer this question, giving a valid reason (or at least a reason…) Scientelensia (talk) 15:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Not notable there’s reason enough. I’m not on my lonesome in this thought. I’m not insulting you I’m commenting on your content not your character. ChurCuz (talk) 16:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

What you are saying is, unfortunately, untrue. An insult which you said on my character: “Please STOP… thinking you own the page”

• Also, please provide me with an actual reason why there should be no format as started above. Yes, you have said many times that there should be none. However, you have said 0 times why this is the case, despite being prompted.

Scientelensia (talk) 18:16, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

It's not enough that similar material exists elsewhere - WP:OTHERCONTENT — MacAddct1984 ^{(talk | contribs)} 18:35, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

The information is notable and sourced, I am using other pages as an example. Scientelensia (talk) 18:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Macaddct1984 for thanking my reply :) Scientelensia (talk) 18:38, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

They’re agreeing with me by the way. ChurCuz (talk) 18:40, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

They are expressing a different concern to you, who has not even provided a reason for your opinion. They also thanked me for my explanation of my thoughts. Let them speak for themself, please… Scientelensia (talk) 18:41, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I’d argue your personal attack is quite hypocritical given your (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ChurCuz&diff=prev&oldid=1022516534) reprimands of other users who do the same…

Scientelensia (talk) 18:21, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

But it wasn’t a personal attack I have no idea why you’re combing through my page because it’s extremely strange and digging up an actual personal attack from three years ago. Here at Wikipedia we comment on content not contributors and your content on this page is NOT good enough. ChurCuz (talk) 18:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

“Please STOP… thinking you own the page”: this clearly is an insult to my character and not to my content.

My content is good enough. I have contributed greatly to this article positively, regularly updating it as can be seen. I have also created these articles: Yusuf Abu al-Haggag, Elizabeth Brontë. I have contributed significantly to many football articles, completely reorganising Steve McManaman to adhere to good standards. I have also, as shown by their respective page stats, significantly enhanced (among many others): Jack Grealish, Kyle Walker, John Stones. I have made large contributions to these: Upper Slaughter, Machu Picchu, Abu Haggag Mosque. I have also received a barnstar for my contributions to the Palestinian genocide accusation article. Therefore, it is very insulting that you target me in this way, especially as I believe that the vast majority of my content on this page has been to a high standard. I wish you would not make such unfair judgements of me in this way.

The point of bring up a past instance is to state that your behaviour has not changed since then. You have received a vast array of sanctions against you, and you may not have really learned from them…

Let’s return to the matter at hand. I will repeat: please provide me with an actual reason why there should be no format as started above. Yes, you have said many times that there should be none. However, you have said 0 times why this is the case, despite being prompted. Scientelensia (talk) 18:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

This isn’t just my opinion two other editors have expressed the same sentiment and you’ve reverted all three of us countless times. I really don’t care about what other pages you’ve edited on but on this particular page it’s not good enough. File a report if you think it’s a personal attack. ChurCuz (talk) 18:38, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

“[C]ountless” is excessive.

I will again repeat: please provide me with an actual reason why there should be no format as started above. Yes, you have said many times that there should be none. However, you have said 0 times why this is the case, despite being prompted. Why is this your opinion?

I believe this is my fourth time of asking, and if you cannot even justify your actions then I would suggest not enacting such reverts… Scientelensia (talk) 18:40, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

But it isn’t excessive you just force content into the article from numerous blacklisted sources and then you’ll reinstate it when you think enough time has elapsed. It doesn’t read well just because another page has the format doesn’t mean this one should. There’s your reason, like I said you seem to be the only one who wants it this way but others clearly differ. ChurCuz (talk) 18:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

How does it not read well? Scientelensia (talk) 18:44, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

This is an encyclopaedia https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WIAE&redirect=no not a magazine. ChurCuz (talk) 18:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Obviously… but if you are to conduct yourself in this way you must surely remove ‘offending’ sentences on Edinson Cavani and Luis Suárez so as to be consistent. Scientelensia (talk) 18:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Already have cheers mate. ChurCuz (talk) 18:53, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Let’s see how that goes down… Scientelensia (talk) 18:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

How about Luis Suárez? Scientelensia (talk) 18:55, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Are you going to do the same for Suarez?? Scientelensia (talk) 19:05, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

“But… differ”: When I was told they were backlisted, I accepted this and (albeit eventually< I concede I took too long) removed the sentences/changed the sources. Why doesn’t it read well? Is it just because I made the edit? Scientelensia (talk) 18:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

You never change it though. You just reinstate it the same as before. ChurCuz (talk) 18:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Look through the recent edits, I removed the Ronaldo statement and changed the sources for the Messi ones, only to find that that were unreliable. Scientelensia (talk) 19:05, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Also, let’s list a selection of the good content I have spent much time inserting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1129852434

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1134462300

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1135443023

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1140283159

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1140786245

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1142531911

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1153518900

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1157557123

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1157557132

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1157575871

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1182147950

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1205129290

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1206530967

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1206529036 Scientelensia (talk) 18:51, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Honours

why doesn't nunez have the league cup as one of the honours? He played in the competition and scored in the 4th round 2A02:2F08:611B:A900:59CA:7CF0:3FCE:DEA (talk) 19:02, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

there seems to be an editor on here determined for some reason to stop people adding his correct Honours - he won the EFL Cup https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/darwin-nunez/erfolge/spieler/546543 Jimjom (talk) 14:26, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2024

Individual Honours Carabao Cup Winner (2023-24) 121.6.199.92 (talk) 00:25, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 12:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Honours (2)

This is now getting ridiculous. Why are there moderators on here determined to edit out the observable fact Nunez won the League Cup? His own club have been rejected as a source as to whether hes a winner, its also a fact put forward in other sources that he has won the tournament. Other parts of this article reference the fact he played several matches and scored in the tournament.

I dont think there is another example on wikipedia of such a high bar for what is a simple fact to be acknowledged? I'm not a Liverpool fan but this is ridiculous. The reversions are not in the spirit of Wikipedia Jimjom (talk) 12:48, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Find an independent, reliable source that supports the content you want to see added, then. Mattythewhite (talk) 13:53, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

But what meets that threshold? Because independent sources get shot down as unreliable. The only true source of information as to whether the club have given him a winners medal is...the club itself, but you won't accept that either. I think this is just getting silly, he played 5 times and scored in the tournament (my source for that is this article), and the club say he is a winner - yet you keep deleting this observable fact.

What has been the threshold for the hundreds of other players with this honour? Jimjom (talk) 19:30, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

It's been added, albeit using a stats database site that lists titles for players regardless of whether the player was actually involved. I'm leaving as it is now. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:42, 9 March 2024 (UTC)