Talk:David Butler (politician)

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Move discussion in progress

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Page move

Another editor recently moved this article from "David Butler (American politician)" to "David Butler (politician)", giving the reason "no other politician named David Butler".

I think this is shortsighted, and I'm going to move the article to an even more specific "David Butler (Nebraska governor)". Google searches turned up a David Butler who unsuccessfully ran for a seat in the Arizona state House ([1], [2]), one who unsuccessfully ran for the state legislature in Oklahoma in 2002 ([3]), one who was mayor of Whittier, California, and ran for the California State Assembly ([4], [5]) as well as several who've run for or served in less notable posts: a member of the town council in Leesburg, Virginia ([6]), a prosecuting attorney in Arkansas ([7]), a mayor of Woodworth, Louisiana ([8]), and a mayor of Atchison, Kansas ([9]).

I doubt whether any of these was significant by WP standards, but had any of the legislative candidates won, they would have been; and given the number of David Butlers out there, it seems not at all unlikely that one or more will achieve notability in the field of politics. We should anticipate this possibility in the naming of this article. — Ammodramus (talk) 11:55, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've again undone a page move to "David Butler (politician)", for reasons discussed above. While the subject of this article may be the only currently notable pol of that name, there are plenty of others out there who might one day attain notability.

It's better that we be specific now. In the past, I've had to move pages to more specific names and turn the old name into a dab page, and it's a major inconvenience to chase down all the links and change them. Moreover, in the process of doing so I've discovered that careless editors often fail to make sure that the "Mary Smith (politican)" they're linking is actually the person they want to link to. A more specific name makes that less likely. — Ammodramus (talk) 04:42, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 September 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved. The consensus is in favour of the original proposal, and I see no point in WP:CRYSTALBALLing that there might be another notable DB politician in the future. If there is, we can move again, it's no big deal. — Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

David Butler (Nebraska governor) → David Butler (politician) – The current name is too WP:PRECISE; this is the only notable politician with this name. I don't buy the argument there are other notable David Butler politicans, but even if there are: WP:WTAF. -- Tavix ^(talk) 00:31, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support. straightforward move. kennethaw88 • talk 06:54, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support. He engaged in other notable political activities as well. — AjaxSmack 13:29, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. CookieMonster755 𝚨-𝛀 00:15, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Alternate option, David Butler (governor). It's simpler than the current title without any risk of conflicts with other politicians of this name. Butler's primary significance is that of being governor, not senator; if there were other John Quincy Adamses of great significance, you'd entitle the US President's article "John Quincy Adams (president)", even though he was a US Representative and held other offices. Nyttend (talk) 12:49, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - until/unless we have an other articl which could reasonably claim this name, we should use it. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:12, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose proposed move, support Nyttend's alternate proposal. See previous section of this talk page: I found three American David Butlers who've run for state legislatures in recent years, and had any of them won, he'd have attained notability and qualified as "David Butler (politician)". I also found a number of other David Butlers who held lesser offices. Given the number of minor politicians with that name, it seems not unlikely that one of them will meet notability standards in the not too distant future. If this occurs, and if this article has been moved as Tavix proposes, we'll have to convert "David Butler (politician)" to a dab page, re-disambiguate this article, and change all the inbound links. A little extra precision now could save a lot of work later. — Ammodramus (talk) 03:14, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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