Talk:Erling Haaland/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2019

Erling Braut Haland scored 20 goals for Molde, not 14. This is proven in multiple sources including ESPN and Transfermarkt Shubox12 (talk) 13:25, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Saying it's proven in sources without providing the sources is not helpful. NiciVampireHeart 21:57, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Home town

Since he is born in Leeds, but has spent most of his life in Bryne it could be added as his home town in the biography box? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.239.57.137 (talk) 12:48, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

The football biography infobox doesn't support a "hometown" field. This sort of information is probably better off being explained in prose within the article itself. Kosack (talk) 13:08, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

The name is written wrongly throughout the article, including in the title

His name is Erling Braut Haaland and not Håland. It is true that a person with an "Å" in their name often write it with two A's in English, but some people have their name written with two A's in Norwegian as well, and in that case it would be wrong to translate it into an Å. So calling him Håland is incorrect.

Look for any source in Norwegian, including any news article written about him, his Norwegian Wikipedia-article as well as his own Instagram profile. It is not written with an Å. TerjePee (talk) 14:43, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

References

2020 Transfer

It should be added that Borussia Dortmund has secured the transfer of Haland to their club in the Summer of 2020. Red Bull Salzburg are to get 20 million euro for this, as per the special buyout clause in Haland's contract with RB Salzburg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.67.13.101 (talk) 07:16, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source for that? Kosack (talk) 07:49, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Quick Maffs

"Later on, he scored a goal against Napoli to be the first teenager to score in four consecutive matches, and fourth player to achieve that feat, following Zé Carlos, Alessandro Del Piero and Diego Costa.[7] On 27 November, he scored another goal against Genk, to reach five consecutive matches, and to join Alessandro Del Piero, Serhiy Rebrov, Neymar, Cristiano Ronaldo and Robert Lewandowski in doing so.[27][28]"

How was Haaland the fourth player to score in four consecutive Champions League games, but the sixth to score in FIVE consecutive matches? 2A00:23C5:E1AB:4500:4032:B006:C050:1DBB (talk) 15:17, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

It's actually possible. It just relies on a very unlikely set of circumstances. But given that only del Piero is on both lists, I think there has been some mistake made with the list of players to score in four consecutive matches, surely Rebrov, Neymar and Lewandowsi should also have been on this list.148.252.129.225 (talk) 16:17, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 19 January 2020

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) NNADIGOODLUCK (Talk|Contribs) 21:35, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

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Erling Braut Håland → Erling Braut Haaland – Per WP:COMMONNAME (485k results for Erling Braut Håland, of which 21k in the news section, compared to 1.5m results for Erling Braut Haaland, with 139k results in the news section). Also, the Norwegian Football Federation, UEFA and Borussia Dortmund all call him Haaland, not Håland. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 02:25, 19 January 2020 (UTC) —Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:46, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
EDIT: The page should be moved to Erling Haaland: as Ortizesp pointed out, his middle name is being less and less used. If one searches for "haaland" on google, 90% of news articles just call him "Erling Haaland", omitting his second name. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 17:12, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

• Support because according to WP:USEENGLISH, diacritics of common name needs to removed because diacritic was unknown in English with exception of foreign words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.245.111.65 (talk) 03:23, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
• Support Erling Haaland His middle name has been used less and less, and no one else has the same name. More search results if you cut it out as well.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:52, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

I agree with you, the page should really be moved to Erling Haaland for the reasons you stated. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 17:12, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

In which case it would be Erling Håland, not a Germanized aaa. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:25, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

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• Oppose - this is because English-language sources do not use diacrritics, in the same way that Pelé is most spelt 'Pele' - it's lazy and wrong. Either keep at Erling Braut Håland or lose the middle name and move to Erling Håland. GiantSnowman 17:08, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose IP has failed to read the guideline cited. Norwegian international footballers do not have "English names", Håland is his name. We don't change people's nationalities on en.wp, excepting Latin names of alchemists from the Middle Ages. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:25, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman and @In ictu oculi: source 1 in the article states: "Because after the transition to Salzburg he has chosen a somewhat more friendly name for international clubs, media and fans. He has deliberately switched the å in Håland to two a's in Haaland." Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 23:31, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

And that's in Germany. No. We don't Germanize Norwegians. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:15, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

• Support Erling Haaland His instagram account is Erling Braut Haaland with the URL https://www.instagram.com/erling.haaland/ both use Haaland. The Norwegian wikipedia article used https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erling_Braut_Haaland from the start. However at first they used Erling Braut Håland in the text and then moved to Haaland back on 9 September 2018. https://no.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erling_Braut_Haaland&diff=prev&oldid=18814458. The Norwegian wikipedia is clearly more authorative in the current spelling of Norwegian names. RonaldDuncan (talk) 18:05, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Instagram's a red herring. Like many social media, they don't allow foreign characters in its handles. VEO^onefive 21:22, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose per reasons stated. The descandinavisation is a result of keyboards outside that part of his world being limited and the convenience of typing 'aa' instead of working out the Alt-code or bringing up Character Map each time. This is supposed to be encyclopaedic content, not a lazy write-up. VEO^onefive 21:22, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per GiantSnowman. Basically English-language sources don't use diacritics and that's why Haaland is used more often. Personally I'd rather removing his middle name since it's rarely used now and moving the article to Erling Håland. Ben5218 (talk) 09:01, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose His name is spelt Håland. Would not be adverse to a move to Erling Håland to drop the middle name though. The proposed move would also result in him having his name spelt differently to his father, which would look a bit silly. Number 57 12:44, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
  • It would look silly, but most sources refer to them both as "Haaland" these days. – PeeJay 11:07, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
• Support Haaland per no:Erling Braut Haaland. —Jonny Nixon (talk) 15:24, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
• Comment looks like there's at least a consensus to drop the middle name? Or should a separate RM be opened?--Ortizesp (talk) 23:51, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per GiantSnowman. --ThurnerRupert (talk) 05:19, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
• Support Haaland or Braut Haaland. The Norwegian football association uses Braut Haaland. https://www.fotball.no/fotballdata/person/profil/?fiksId=3608320 Cashewnøtt (talk) 11:05, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
• Support move to Erling Haaland. Per WP:DIACRITICS, whether diacritics are used or not depends on common usage, and Erling Haaland is clearly overwhelmingly the choice recently according to Google Trends - [1]. Interestingly, even in Norway itself, the use of Haaland has increased while Håland declined, to the point that the latest data point shows Haaland to be the preferred spelling - [2]. This is in addition to the fact that the player himself prefers the use of Haaland and changed the spelling of his surname himself - [3]. Hzh (talk) 21:35, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
• Support move to Erling Braut Haaland. Never once have I encountered his name without Braut, on the other hand he is frequently nicknamed i.e. "Brauten" in colloquial terms, even in the Norwegian press, for instance Dagbladet 20 January 2020. "Erling Haaland" gives 7 Norwegian newspaper hits, contra 217 for his full name. Haaland, however, is a name form selected by himself and subsequently the Football Association of Norway, which seals the case for me. Haaland is not nonsensical like "Pele" since it's the pre-1917 way to write Håland, and is a common Norwegian surname. Geschichte (talk) 11:37, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
• Comment. I've noticed that the article about his father, Alf-Inge Håland, is using Håland and not Haaland, so the proposed move would result in Erling having his name spelt differently to his father, which wouldn't be the best thing to do. Ben5218 (talk) 17:07, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

His father's article is irrelevant here. It's the same name, simply the form without the diacritic. What matters is common usage, Erling Haaland himself prefers it, and more Norwegian sources are using Haaland now as indicated by Google Trends. I notice that none of oppose iVote has mentioned any Wikipedia policy or guideline on the issue. Hzh (talk) 19:55, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose per GiantSnowman. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 01:20, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

GiantSnowman's argument can be shown to be incorrect by Google Trends which indicates that even the Norwegian are now using Haaland in greater number - [4]. therefore English-language sources not using diacritics is no longer relevant here. Hzh (talk) 01:43, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

• Support In September 2019 he choose to change his family name from Håland to Haaland, so this will be used much more in the future.[5] The Norwegian media often refer to him with the full name (Erling Braut Haaland), but internationally is Erling Haaland used a lot. - Premeditated (talk) 20:50, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
• Support He has changed his name to Erling Braut Haaland. He's using it himself and most sources now use his new name. His father has also changed his name from Alf-Inge Håland to Alfie Haaland. Tholme (talk) 21:51, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
• Support per Premeditated. ^{O̲L̲D̲S̲T̲O̲N̲E̲}_{J̅A̅M̅E̅S̅} 18:06, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose WP:RECENTISM. APM (talk) 15:13, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

He's been using the name for over a year now, and Haaland has always been an Anglicization of Håland. This argument doesn't make sense.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:28, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

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Pronunciation

The pronunciation of his name is /ˈhɔːlɑːn/, not /ˈhɔːlɑːnd/ - the "d" at the end of such Norwegian words and names is NOT pronounced. You can clearly hear it here - https://forvo.com/search/H%C3%A5land/ --Christomir (talk) 16:03, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

That pronunciation is the English one ({{IPA-en}}, not the Norwegian one. You can add the norwegian pronunciation with {{IPA-no}} Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 19:31, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Fist Middle Last Name Issues

Hey! I suggest naming this article Erling Haaland. However, the description should be: Erling Braut Håland (born 21 July 2000), better known as Erling Haaland, is a Norwegian professional footballer who plays as a striker for [whatever the club's name is] and the Norway national team.

Middle name should be dropped from the title as the player does not use it professionally. The Haaland spelling is now his official and the one for back of his jerseys as well. However, I highly doubt he has changed his legal name in his Norwegian passport. Just can't see any incentive for that. So, he is Håland in Norway but Haaland for the outside world not familiar with the Norwegian language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.165.8.118 (talk) 08:44, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 February 2020

Erling made 14 appearances and scored 18 goals for Bryne 2 in 3 divisjon (4th tier) in Norway in the 15-16 season. This should be represented in the player profile box as they are senior appearances.

Source: https://www.fotball.no/fotballdata/person/profil/?fiksId=3608320 Knutarnesel (talk) 12:13, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: It appears Bryne 2 has not been included because it is a reserve team. MrClog (talk) 10:03, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

"Although eligible to play for the England national team, Haaland chose Norway."

According to which source is Haaland a British citizen? Being born in England is not enough to make him eligible. -2001:14BA:1FFE:7100:18B9:E543:FCA4:301D (talk) 12:18, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes it is. It absolutely is. Not really sure what else to say here. 77.99.89.230 (talk) 17:29, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

According to FIFA rules citizenship is a necessary precondition for eligibility. It can not be replaced by being born somewhere or other considerations. -2001:14BA:1FFE:7100:8121:60B6:5D7F:6DE4 (talk) 14:26, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

"Any player who refers to art. 5 par. 1 to assumes a new nationality and who has not played international football [in a match (either in full or in part) in an official competition of any category or any type of football] shall be eligible to play for the new representative team only if he fulfils one of the following conditions: a) He was born on the territory of the relevant association" 77.99.89.230 (talk) 13:26, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Exactly, assuming a new nationality (British citizenship) being the precondition. Being born on the territory of the relevant association alone is not enough to be eligible if the player is not a national of that country. -2001:14BA:1FFE:7100:3993:49DA:CEF6:2164 (talk) 03:49, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Can't you read? There's no mention of citizenship in that little excerpt. 77.99.89.230 (talk) 16:18, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

@2001:14BA:1FFE:7100:18B9:E543:FCA4:301D: Have you never been taught that if you are born in a country you are automatically a citizen of it? It's so obvious. Matthewishere0 (talk) 05:11, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

The wording of the paragraph in mention implies that playing for England was on the table. The player himself has stated several times that this was not the case. Like in this news story from Norwegian TV 2, for instance – he literally says «it was never an issue» and «I am very Norwegian». https://www.tv2.no/a/11497851/ It's a fun fact, but in fairness it should also be treated as such. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.23.229.10 (talk) 10:13, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2021

In the Personal life section, add the link to Albert Braut Tjåland's page. 76.103.46.252 (talk) 02:43, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

 Done — see Special:Diff/1015191288. Thanks! DanCherek (talk) 02:53, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2021

THE APPEARANCES DO NOT ADD UP CORRECTLY IN THE GOALS/APPEARANCES TABLE 146.90.6.39 (talk) 10:18, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Terasail^[✉️] 12:17, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2021

Change haaland picture cause is a few years ago and changes with a new one — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.247.196.133 (talk) 05:27, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Håland vs Haaland in lead

The entire article body and article title uses "Håland", whereas the lead uses "Haaland". At the very least, the body and lead should use the same convention. No consensus has yet been established for the article title (or perhaps even the article convention), but at the very least it should be consistent within the article. I'll make the change for consistency, which is independent of whether consensus for one or the other option is reached.

For what it's worth, the source on the name change discusses his name change for football registration and media purposes which doesn't necessarily mean an official name change. But that's for the separate discussion on the article title and article convention. — MarkH₂₁^talk 23:59, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 20 May 2020

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The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover) Mdaniels5757 (talk) 18:42, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

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Erling Braut Håland → Erling Haaland – There's a couple major reasons to change this page name, which I'll highlight below. The footballer is internationally known by this spelling of his name, and I think Wikipedia is a little behind the ball.

1. WP:NAMECHANGES - there is solid evidence that he has changed his last name from Håland to Haaland to appeal to international markets, some sources: The Guardian, ESPN, The Local (Norway). Most new articles follow this new spelling, and therefore as per WP:NAMECHANGES the page name should be updated to reflect. He changed his name before exploding in popularity, so most users should be familiar with his name as Erling Haaland.

2. WP:ENGLISH - As per the above, the "anglicized" spelling of his name is Haaland which is highlighted in the lead of his page. Most English references use this spelling. In fact, almost all references in all languages use this spelling of his name - including his native Norwegian.

3. WP:COMMONNAME - his common name is Erling Haaland. His Borussia Dortmund, Bundesliga, Instagram, Twitter, Fox Sports, and most other major external links list him as Erling Haaland. This by itself should be a reason to change the page name. Google news has 4.3 million pages with "Erling Haaland", versus 192k for "Erling Braut Håland"

In conclusion, I think it's due time to change the page name. Overwhelming WP policy points to the name of the page being Erling Haaland. Ortizesp (talk) 16:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support per exhaustively detailed nomination. This has been already pointed out in a number of postings above — not only do his teams indicate his surname as Haaland, but his wishes should be respected in terms of how he depicts his own name in print, particularly as it appears in his social media, such as Instagram and Twitter. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 02:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

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• Oppose per WP:DGUIDE, comments at last RM, and the fact that English language sources do use 'Håland', such as this and this. I am not bothered about whether it's Erling Håland or Erling Braut Håland, but it should be the Norwegian surname. GiantSnowman 11:28, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I'd just like to highlight that WP:DGUIDE "is not one of Wikipedia's policies or guidelines", unlike WP:COMMONNAME, WP:ENGLISH, or WP:NAMECHANGES. And additionally, WP:DGUIDE says "Exceptions include... naturalized citizens who have adopted a different spelling of their name" - while not naturalized, Haaland has adopted a different spelling of his name that does not require diacritics as referenced above. Moreover, I think we can agree that the strongest and most definitive references (such as his Bundesliga/Dortmund profiles, or those in English) use Haaland instead of Håland.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

  It should be also noted that the main title header of his entries in both Norwegian Wikipedias — Norsk bokmål and Norsk nynorsk — is Erling Braut Haaland. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 14:36, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support, per nom, especially with WP:NAMECHANGES and WP:COMMONNAME in mind. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:31, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
• Move to Erling Braut Haaland, we had a discussion about this not long ago. I refer to my comments there. Geschichte (talk) 19:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

  I would likewise support a move to the full name form — Erling Braut Haaland — per the main headers in the two Norwegian Wikipedias. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

  I would rather the shortened Erling Haaland, I think at this point his WP:COMMONNAME omits his middle name. I agree at some point the reverse was true.--Ortizesp (talk) 21:08, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

  As long as the surname is moved to "Haaland", I will not object to either inclusion or exclusion of the middle name, as preferred by consensus. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:25, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

  I would prefer Erling Braut Haaland . REDMAN 2019 (talk) 11:42, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

• Support it should be moved to Erling Haaland per WP:COMMONNAME Coderzombie (talk) 07:00, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Move to Erling Håland , like Eiður Guðjohnsen (Eiður Smári Guðjohnsen). --Emyil (talk) 16:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I don't think Eidur Gudjohnsen was ever referred to in the English-language media with his middle name. A bit of a straw man argument, there. – PeeJay 12:44, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support Do you see Messi's page titled as Lionel Andres Messi? Pages don't have middle names in their titles, a good example is Emyil's example above. Matthewishere0 (talk) 05:13, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • That's because Messi isn't commonly referred to with his middle name. Erling on the other hand, is. This is going to be an oppose from me. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 13:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose – I've seen sources refer to him as "Erling Haaland", "Erling Braut Haaland", "Erling Håland" and "Erling Braut Håland". None of them seems to totally predominate over the others, so I see no reason to move this article from where it currently sits. If in the future he becomes referred to by one name above all else, then that is the time to move it. – PeeJay 12:46, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I don't think this argument makes sense. Yes, he's  referred to by all variant spelling of his name but the most common is Erling Haaland as mentioned above. And as mentioned before WP:NAMECHANGES dictates that we should update his name after the name change.--Ortizesp (talk) 03:40, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
    • I don't see any evidence that the spelling "Erling Haaland" is significantly more used than any other. Also, he hasn't changed his name at all, the "aa" is just another way of representing the "å" character. – PeeJay 11:53, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
      • If you see my first point, I put in three reliable references that show that he changed his name to Haaland to be more marketable, so it isn't just a translation of his name. This is important, because then the rule is to change the page name to match his most recent name. And if you see my third point, "Google news has 4.3 million pages with 'Erling Haaland', versus 192k for 'Erling Braut Håland'" which you can validate yourself. I'd say that's significantly more usage.--Ortizesp (talk) 15:48, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
        • I'm sorry, but he didn't change his name, he simply adopted a spelling of it that was easier to spell for people without the "å" character easily accessible on their keyboards. Sources claiming he changed his name are almost certainly misinterpreting what has happened. – PeeJay 11:05, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
          • We'll have to agree to disagree, seeing as the sources that support his changed name are fairly reliable. And if he adopted the alternate spelling, I still think it would fall under the name change umbrella. Beyond that, I don't think the COMMONNAME argument is arguable with the numbers I provided.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:38, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
            • Adopting an alternative transliteration of one's name is not a name change, it's just a different spelling. It's not like he changed it from Håland to Smith. – PeeJay 16:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
              • I disagree, and even if I cede the first of my three points, I think the other two stand.--Ortizesp (talk) 15:29, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Jjamesryan (talk | contribs) 11:27, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose I understand that for marketing and international usage that the non-diacritic form of his last name is used, but his name still remains in the Norwegian form. Keeping the redirect of the "Haaland" form of his name should still be sufficient. boldblazer (talk) 05:25, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

  As has been already pointed out above, Erling Braut Håland is not the Norwegian form for this specific Norwegian who was born in England. Both Norwegian Wikipedias — Norsk bokmål and Norsk nynorsk — depict his entry's main title header as "Erling Braut Haaland". —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 05:49, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

  This is a bad take, his last name does not remain in the Norwegian form. Not even in Norway.@Boldblazer:--Ortizesp (talk) 15:29, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

  @Ortizesp: I think you meant to tag Boldblazer? Jjamesryan (talk | contribs) 02:48, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

  You are correct, thanks!--Ortizesp (talk) 06:01, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Support change to Erling Haaland. Let's get this done already! —Jonny Nixon (talk) 12:52, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

• Support moving to Erling Haaland per WP:COMMONNAME. Come on, people. The move request very clearly summed up how the common usage is 'Erling Haaland' and Wikipedia ought to reflect the world, not do things the way we want to. Don't let this be the whole Star Trek Into Darkness shenanigans again. Icarus2027 (talk) 17:20, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support change to Erling Haaland. As noted before, currently even in Norway there are more sources that use Erling Haaland than Erling Håland or Erling Braut Håland according to Google Trends -[6]. Hzh (talk) 12:47, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose For the same reason we should change "Jürgen Klopp" to "Jurgen Klopp", since that's how most non-Germans spell it. I understand he uses the "Haaland" spelling himself, but that's just for the media. Unless you can prove he legally changed his name and his passport now says "Haaland", we should keep the original spelling.SuperSardus (talk) 16:15, 17 June 2020 CET)

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Regarding His New Squad Number.

On 3rd July, it is reported that his squad number has been updated to '9 instead of hos initial '17'. Nikolai2569 (talk) 14:20, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

25 or 28 league goals

In the right column it says 25 games, 28 goals. Further down, it says 15 games, 13 goals last season, 10 games and 12 goals this season, which means 25 goals in 25 games total. What is correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.210.79.229 (talk) 21:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Career progression correction

It should say "Haaland started his career at his hometown club Bryne in 2015, and moved to Molde two years later". Haaland played for Bryne 2 in 2015 in 3. divisjon, which is a part of the senior league system. Maybe add that he played for Brynes reserve team? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:799:61:7D00:449A:9F4B:AB22:D588 (talk) 21:01, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

English citizenship

Hello @Mattythewhite:. You reverted my edits and said "there's no such thing as English citizenship". The issue with that is for footballers, we classify them into "English footballers", "Welsh footballers", and not "British footballers", even if British is the correct citizenship. Category:British footballers should only be a container category. But on the second thing, we could put Category:British people of Norwegian descent instead of Category:English people of Norwegian descent. Paul Vaurie (talk) 08:49, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Career stats don't add up

Take a look at his career stats for Dortmund.

In the totals columns, the appearances and goals do not add up correctly over the 3 year span at Dortmund. Philkav (talk) 20:00, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Bundesliga Goal of the Month is missing

In his personal achievements, Bundesliga Goal of the Month (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goal_of_the_Month_(Germany) ) February 2021 is missing (see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Tore_des_Monats and https://www.sportschau.de/tor-des-monats/archiv/chronik20er/februar2021tdm100.html#:~:text=Erling%20Haaland%20von%20Borussia%20Dortmund,0%20im%20Revierderby%20gegen%20Schalke.

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2022

Change that he plays for Borussia Dortmund to Manchester City as he has agreed the move. 5.133.174.76 (talk) 11:23, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 11:37, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2022

He got 18 apps and 18 goals on Norway national team now Wikdahl (talk) 23:12, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:16, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 May 2022

Mayank Arya0310 (talk) 14:51, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

He will join premier league club Manchester City on 1st July 2022

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:54, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

He still hasn't agreed personal terms with Man City

The main article has been updated to say that he will join Man City on the 1st July 2022, however, even Man City have confirmed that they have agreed a deal with Dortmund but personal terms are yet to be agreed. This should really not be updated yet.

https://www.mancity.com/news/mens/club-statement-erling-haaland-63787789

John arneVN (talk) 05:03, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

It says he is due to join, in my opinion this strange half announcement doesn't belong in the lead at all until the deal is actually completed, but evidently a lot of editors disagree with that. I am strongly against the "due to" being straight up changed to "will" though as some editors have been adding per WP:CRYSTAL. It's not our place to predict the future that this planned deal actually goes through and is finalized. TylerBurden (talk) 12:09, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Unsourced content

The part "considered one of the best players in the world" is unsourced. For some reason the user TylerBurden (talk · contribs) keeps restoring it. Can someone kindly remove it or add a source? --FMSky (talk) 10:43, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

User? I thought I was a freak, if you would actually look at the sources of the article, in the place I told you in the edit summary, instead of engaging in blind edit warring out of spite you would see that it matches with what is written. TylerBurden (talk) 10:49, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Can you link the source? i cant find it anywhere --FMSky (talk) 10:53, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

See the style of play section, the first two paragraphs contain the sources. TylerBurden (talk) 11:08, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

They describe his style of play, none of them specifically call him one of the best players itw --FMSky (talk) 11:59, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes they do.. are you even reading the sources? TylerBurden (talk) 20:04, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Also sorry for that, i was just really pissed off --FMSky (talk) 10:53, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

I accept your apology, but the behaviour is unacceptable and many others on this site probably would not. Stay cool, step away and breathe for a few minutes if that is what it takes. Either way that is not something that should be discussed here, I shouldn't have brought it up. TylerBurden (talk) 11:13, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Career totals

I may be being a little stupid here but why do the career totals not sum up?? 203.109.147.46 (talk) 05:06, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Since this is now the second time this has been raised, there's probably something to it. Someone experienced with working on statistics should probably have a look at it. --TylerBurden (talk) 07:19, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm not a great statistician, and I'm not a Wikipedia editor, but assuming the individual entries are correct, the total line below the 2018 season that reads "39 14 6 2...50 20" should instead read "59 16 6 2...70 22" Cernisr (talk) 13:15, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Manchester City start date

Although Haaland's transfer was announced today (13 June) by Manchester City, the official press release from the club states he will only join on 1 July so the introduction, infobox, squad templates/categories etc should reflect this until that date. FilthyDon (talk) 11:25, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

I'd agree, but with the amount of editors who are going to non-stop change that, and with how official it is at this point, it's probably best to just update it. TylerBurden (talk) 20:22, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Actually I take that back, since the source does state that he will join on 1 July, not that he has already fully joined, we should wait until that day when a new statement should be released. TylerBurden (talk) 22:10, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2022

Erling was born in Leeds as his parents lived there and his Father used to play for Leeds United FC but had transferred to Manchester City FC in the month before Erling’s birth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sport/football/788277.stm 80.1.97.189 (talk) 19:18, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Of the universe (talk) 09:01, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

1st July

Since its 1st July its time to update the article. @city_xtra have officially announced that Erling Haaland is a Man City player. Check their instagram. Mrjazz123 (talk) 23:31, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

The existing sources we have stated 1 July, check your signature and see what time it is. I don't know where you live but it is still the 30th. WP:NORUSH. TylerBurden (talk) 23:34, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

I dont why it says 23:34 but its 01:38 here 😅. We will wait 30 more minutes. Sorry about that. Mrjazz123 (talk) 23:39, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

It's fine, consider updating the rest as well (infoboxes and the like) instead of just the lead. But I am sure many people are eager to make those changes as well. Enjoy your night. :) TylerBurden (talk) 23:46, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Community shield

The community shield counts as a competitive match, so he has played 2 games for Manchester City and scored 2 goals. Not 1 and 2 as currently listed. 70.24.63.228 (talk) 00:49, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Younger cousin plays youth “under fourteen” I assume?

Younger cousin plays under “fourteen”? 2600:1700:160:33E0:1D90:DF8B:22C6:3473 (talk) 02:36, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, my English is poor. Younger cousin scored goals in under “forty games”.

“Under forty games” is correct.✌️ 2600:1700:160:33E0:1D90:DF8B:22C6:3473 (talk) 02:45, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 September 2022

Hello,

We as Manchester City FC fans suggest to update the profile image of this page. The player Erling Haaland has recently joined Manchester City FC and he is currently playing for the club. The profile picture currently being used in this Wikipedia page is pretty old and does not reflect the latest look of the player. I have provided an image taken by me which shows the player playing his latest match for Manchester City Football Club on 2022/08/31 at the Etihad Stadium. We will be happy if you use this image to represent him on Wikipedia.

Kind regards

File:HaalandErling

Erling Haaland playing for Manchester City on August 2022

Nasifshah544 (talk) 15:21, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Please provide an image with an acceptable license. The file you attempted to add does not seem to have worked. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:30, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Seems like your picture was removed from commons, it needs to be an image not violating copyright. TylerBurden (talk) 20:01, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Goals at man city

He has scored a goal on his debut against bayern at lambeau field 90.241.238.93 (talk) 22:25, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

we dont list preseason games --FMSky (talk) 23:08, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Haaland scored in his Premier league debut against West Ham scoring a brace Sinelitha (talk) 11:08, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Edit - personal life

Edit in personal life needed. His cousin plays for Strømsgodset now. 2001:1C03:5A0E:F600:E9F0:53E0:D43:BDC (talk) 21:02, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Outdated information removed, what team his cousin plays for is something more relevant to his cousins article rather than something that needs to be updated here. TylerBurden (talk) 22:59, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Goals and matches

Haaland is on 17 goals in 10 matches Evdogg123 (talk) 21:49, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 September 2022

In the 'Career Statistic' section, the total number of games Haaland played adds up to 190, yet the 'total' column displays 210. 132.211.165.26 (talk) 20:33, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

 Already done Aaron Liu (talk) 21:57, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2022

He is currently on loan at Ashton united FC 2A00:23C5:F201:B401:38A7:7160:7B63:9EA6 (talk) 15:37, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. RealAspects (talk) 15:49, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Goals

He now has 17 goals in 11 appearances (in all competitions) for Manchester City. Career statistics needs updating. 78.147.85.180 (talk) 16:21, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

I can't edit, but it still has him on 14 games 20 goals. He has played 16 league games now, with 20 goals. 89.101.133.50 (talk) 11:09, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

It's correct according to the Premier League website itself. TylerBurden (talk) 02:15, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2023

Put in a more recent picture 128.135.98.135 (talk) 07:29, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. If you have one in mind that meets WP:Image Use Policy, upload it and link to it here. Cannolis (talk) 08:28, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2023

Haaland joined Man City on the 1st of July, 2022 2A00:23C4:31CA:B201:4F4:3174:6B1C:86B9 (talk) 09:02, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 12:59, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

It does say in the body of the text (the Manchester City section) he joined on July 1st? It's already there. PeachyBum07 (talk) 09:04, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2023

Erling haaland considered one of the best players in the world currently . Not just 'one' of the best strikers in the world Madre12 (talk) 10:44, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 11:10, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. EnormityOP (talk) 11:12, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

WP:LEAD

"Considered one of the best strikers in the world"

Nothing about that in the article body, that's bad WP-writing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:58, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

That's because someone changed it without changing the references, it should have been reverted which it now has been. TylerBurden (talk) 05:33, 4 April 2023 (UTC)