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Rename

This article should really be called Finger of God in the Bible or something similar. 75.14.211.99 (talk) 19:41, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs to be renamed, as it is not just about Christianity. Editor2020, Talk 02:06, 24 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. The rename to Finger of God (Christianity) is no good as this is not strictly a Christian term and as far as I know there is little difference between the Christian use of this term and the Jewish use. 75.0.7.122 (talk) 20:09, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done – Fayenatic London 21:19, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 August 2018

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The result of the move request was: Moved — Amakuru (talk) 22:15, 21 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Finger of God (biblical phrase) → Finger of God – long-term significance. Finger of God presently directs to a disamg. page, which should be added as a hatnote to the primary. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:46, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:03, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Randy Kryn: Currently Finger of God is the disambig page; and how well known or mentioned is the biblical use? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:04, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Per the request, the biblical term has been in use at least since the bible was translated into English, and the long-term significance of the term is in its historical usage and familiarity in the Torah, the Christian Old Testament, and in follow-up secular sense. The most significant use of the term is the descriptor of what was used to write the Ten Commandments onto the Tablets of Stone. It was also used by the Egyptian magicians as a descriptor of the gnats-attack sent by God to vex the pharaoh as one of the plagues in the run-up to The Exodus, and in the New Testament Jesus uses it as the descriptor of what he uses to cast out demons (sort of like a ban stick). Other items on the disambig page, such as the shape of rocks and minor astronomical terminology, do not seem to me to rise to the long-term significance of the biblical understanding of the term. I don't know how often it is mentioned, but certainly does apply when the history of the commandments, and of Moses himself, are taught or presented in media. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:13, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think what Randy Kryn meant by directs to a disamg. page is just that the DAB is its destination, which is also true. Andrewa (talk) 22:41, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks Andrewa, and correct. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:14, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The biblical term is the original meaning, and all other uses are derived from it. It's in Tyndale's Bible as well as the King James Version, so it has been around since the early 16th century.

As the consequential effect of a move, Finger of God will need to be moved to Finger of God (disambiguation).

Looking at the revision histories of the various pages, the earliest versions of the DAB page didn't include the biblical meaning. There is no obvious history of other moves (except one to fix a WP:MALPLACED error, and some renaming of this page itself). It seems that no-one may have spotted this issue before. Narky Blert (talk) 14:49, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

History

I went looking for the move mentioned in #Rename above and I'm having trouble sorting the page history out.

21:09, 2 May 2016 (diff | hist) . . (+61)‎ . . N Finger of God (Christianity) ‎ (Fayenatic london moved page Finger of God (Christianity) to Finger of God (Biblical phrase): this is also in Judaism)

(this is how I found that)

14:29, 23 February 2015‎ Cosby Cosplay (talk | contribs | block)‎ . . (58 bytes) (+58)‎ . . (Cosby Cosplay moved page Finger of God (Commandments) to Finger of God (Christianity))

just for a start. Andrewa (talk) 23:46, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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