Talk:Fred Trueman

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Knighthood[edit]

Fiery Fred was, despite what appear to be "humorous" edits on here, not "Sir" Fred. In fact an obituary in the Sunday Times on 2 July specifically mentions that he was not:

He was made an OBE, but warranted a knighthood. Perhaps if he’d gone to university, or been a batsman, he might have got one.

Any further additions of "Sir" without citing verifiable references which contradict the above are at best mistaken and at worst deliberate vandalism. Tonywalton  | Talk 13:44, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Have added a ref to "Sir Frederick" as the TMS nickname. --IXIA 10:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

1956[edit]

Trueman was not selected for the 1956-7 tour after an indifferent season.JimBakken (talk) 20:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Removed "Tributes" section[edit]

I took the whole thing out as it didn't contain one single reference, which is clearly unacceptable. It was also entirely unwikified, and didn't conform to the usual Wikipedia formatting, which isn't nearly as important in itself but does tend to make one's eyes narrow as to the origins of any such section! I know this seems a bit drastic, but it seemed better than just sticking in a {{fact}} tag and waiting ages for something to happen. Here's the diff for reference purposes. Loganberry (Talk) 16:18, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

West Indies Tour, 1953-54[edit]

There's no mention here of the controversies surrounding the tour of the West Indies in 53/54, which Trueman was involved in (and quite possibly put a brake on his career). Is this worth having in the article? --Konigsburg (talk) 12:23, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

This has been rectified up to a point but I would say more clarification is needed. The tour was a watershed in Fred's career and it certainly did put a brake on his career. It is very doubtful if he was to blame for anything that happened on the tour (e.g., the Compton incident) but he was the scapegoat and the ensuing politics cost him numerous Test appearances in the mid-fifties. --86.135.156.96 (talk) 19:29, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Separate first-class career from Test career?[edit]

I've been adding a few pieces from J.M. Kilburn's Yorkshire history and I think the construction of this article is very awkward because it is almost entirely chronological with a section header for every season. If I was writing from scratch, I would have Test and Yorkshire sections entirely separate. Does anyone have views about this and would anyone object if I am bold and go ahead? --Brian (talk) 21:06, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Misattributed Quote[edit]

I'm reasonably sure that the "Aye it wa' wasted on thee !" quote, was actually another Yorkshire player Emmott Robinson - in response to a 'gentleman's' comment "Well bowled indeed Robinson !" - sorry don't have a source.

Also - and I'm not sure where this fits - his sign off on indoor league - "I'll sithee" was odd because it was not really a way that Yorkshire people talked at the time - 'sithee' was more or less equivalent to "Look you !" in a Welsh dialect. It just sort of added emphasis to a statement. Typically - "Ey up sithee !" - which roughly translated means - "Come on now, get a move on !" - however his slightly false 'professional Yorkshireman' act, became more or less accepted - and people still say "I'll sithee !"- meaning "I'll see you later" in W. Yorks. (and probably the rest of Yorks.)

90.212.179.230 (talk) 22:25, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

The Guide?[edit]

I have been listening to Hitchhikers Guide 3 on Youtube. It looks like he was playing himself in that - if anything is to be believed. Ditlev Petersen (talk) 23:01, 25 April 2014 (UTC)