Talk:Geno (Super Mario RPG)

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Review: August 11, 2024. (Reviewed version).

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 06:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that a fan of Geno created over 1,000 drawings of the character until he appeared in a new game? Source: Super Mario RPG: The fan who drew Geno every day for almost 1000 days has his wish granted
- ALT1: ... that despite knowing of Geno's popularity, Super Mario RPG's co-director wasn't sure why the character was popular? Source: The making of Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my second ever DYK nomination.

Created by Captain Galaxy (talk). Self-nominated at 02:23, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Geno (Super Mario RPG); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall:

Happy to approve both ALT0 and ALT1. Bogger (talk) 15:22, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Never understood about this RPG character right here

Is there a reason why this RPG character has his own article right here? 2804:14D:1481:43D6:D9A5:8CA:E695:25EB (talk) 02:32, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Read the reception section.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 03:39, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How come Diddy Kong got redirected yet Geno Stays, is it because the game industry is full of Geno fans while ignoring Diddy Kong? 77.103.193.166 (talk) 19:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's because Diddy Kong fails to have to be notability while for Geno, many reliable sources discuss mainly about him so NatwonTSG^TALK 15:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. NatwonTSG^TALK 14:40, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Geno (Super Mario RPG)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Captain Galaxy (talk · contribs) 12:53, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: NatwonTSG2 (talk · contribs) 20:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	The grammar and spelling are correct
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Lead section summarizes article adequately. Article is correct per MOS:LAYOUT. Article is not bombarded with words on the WTW list. Fiction is out-of-universe. List incorporation policy does not apply.
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	Reference section exists; no bare URLs spotted.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Other than CoroCro Comic, all of the articles are used in this article are considered reliable by WP:VG/S
	2c. it contains no original research.	No original research
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	According to Earwig
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	The article has information on the character's creation, role, appearances and reception
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Does not gone off-topic
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	Article is neutral
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	Article is stable.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Both images are tagged with their copyright status and have valid non-free use rationales.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	The character's render from Super Mario RPG remake showcases what Geno looks like and the concept art is serves for the character design section.

Lead

P2 S2: put a comma next to Super Mario RPG.

Done

Appearances

P1 S3: comma next to Rose Town

Done

P1 S5: capitalize gang next to Smithy

Done

P1 S5-6: replace Bowyer to Bowser

Comment: Bowyer is the name of a character completely unrelated to Bowser that appears in geno's introduction

P4 S1: italicize Smash Bros. (you could also change it to either Super Smash Bros.)

Done

P5 S1: italicize Mario and replaced series with franchise.

Done

Reception

P1 S2: add 's next to gamer

Comment: This didn't make sense for to change as the higher stakes aren't something the player already possesses. On that front, I did change the word "gamer" to "player"

P1 S4: also italicize Mario again

Done

P1 S5: he is hoping for a return of the character and hoping that he may show up as fighter in the Super Smash Bros. series. is full of unclear and not so concise writing. I suggest this sentence be re-written into he is hoping that the character could return as a playable character in the Super Smash Bros. series.

Done Comment: I did change this up to keep the beginning half of the sentence to make it clearer to the reader that this was a separate wish

P2 S4: comma next to roles and a quotation at the end of the sentence according to the cited source.

Done Added the comma, though there already was a quotation mark at the end of the sentence so I wasn't sure what to do here.

P2 S5: italicize Shacknews

Done

P3 S2: comma next to 2019.

Done

P3 S2: italicize Mario and removed series.

Done

P3 S3: Add the between with and Nintendo.

Done

P3 S7: italicize Super Smash Bros.

Done

P4 S1: replace have with has.

Comment: I did a spell check here and "have" is the correct grammar here.

I will add more soon but this is what for now. NatwonTSG^TALK 07:27, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: in the appearances section, what do you means by writing that Geno and the rest of the part which confused me so can you clarify it. NatwonTSG^TALK 14:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This has now been corrected. Captain Galaxy 16:32, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Final comments

@Captain Galaxy there's not much for that needs to be clarifying and I wanted to promote this article to GA however, you told me that you're currently asking for a second opinion in the review so do you agreed I should promote the article to GA or put on hold.

NatwonTSG^TALK 14:40, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Captain Galaxy, It has been a while since I had done my review for this article and I could do a second review on the weekend with the knowledge I learned from my GAN so. NatwonTSG^TALK 20:51, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Natwon, don't worry I have a second opinion. They are just currently a bit busy, I'll message them. Captain Galaxy 20:58, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA 2nd Review

Hello, I'll take on this second opinion review. I'll see if I can't get to it either later today or tomorrow, so ping me if I haven't done it by then. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 16:20, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Captain Galaxy:

Six GA Criteria

1. Article is well-written. Very minimal mistakes if any at all.

2. No OR, all info is cited in the article.

3. Coverage is broad in depth and focus. Shows multiple aspects of the character.

4. Article appears neutral, and does not appear to hold a significantly negative nor positive stance on the subject.

5. Article appears stable. Does not appear to have had any major vandalism occur.

6. Article uses two fair use images with proper rationale.

Lead

-Looks good

Character design

-"In an issue of Nintendo Power, Geno is described as being "Pinocchio" according to Square." I am confused what this is supposed to mean in this context.

Done

Appearances

-What does "Star Riders" do?

Done

Critical Reception

-"Later in the article, Minotti says that he is hoping for a return of the character to the franchise as well as appearing as a playable character in the Super Smash Bros. series." I feel this can be trimmed to "Minotti stated that he hoped for the return of the character to the franchise and for the character to appear in the Super Smash Bros. series."

Done

-"Fans have expressed their appreciation for the character through different avenues, including art, through platforms such as Pinterest, Tumblr and Twitter." Reword, as it is currently an incomplete sentence.

Done

Overall

-Looks pretty solid. Fix the above nitpicks and this should be good to go. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:13, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the second opinion review, I have gone ahead and implemented these changes. Captain Galaxy 07:40, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Captain Galaxy I feel the Pinocchio statement is better off being removed given it doesn't add much to the Conception and design section. Once that is done, I feel this should be good to go. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 16:39, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@NatwonTSG2: Ok the second opinion review is finished. It's up to you if you want to pass this or continue. Captain Galaxy 16:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retroactive Spot Check

@Captain Galaxy retroactive spot check per Wikipedia_talk:Good_article_nominations#GA_passed_without_spot_check. Reviewing sources 1, 9, 35, 3, 24, 4, 31, 17, 16, 34, and 12. All sources are verifiable, and while one is something I cannot access, I will assume good faith given the reliability of the other sources. No other issues should result from this, so no need to worry further about this. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:33, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]