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Punching Power

I think he was the most powerful puncher of all time.

I think that title diserves to go to Ernie Shavers. Ernie hit like a thunderbolt

Who knows. It is impossible to determine. Unless they were to get it measured. And even then, it is impossible to determine with good timing and such

He beat ken norton far worse than Shavers ever hoped to be able to do. He makes Shavers look like a wimp.

It took Cooney 1 round to defeat Ron Lyle. It took Shavers 6 rounds. It took George Foreman 5 rounds.

Ernie Shavers chances of getting a first round KO were: .338 (shown by his 68 KO's, 23 of them being in the first round). Gerry Cooney's were: .375 (shown by his 24 KO's, 9 of them being in the first round).

It would seem to me judging from the ratio above that Cooney hit harder than Shavers.

Lyle was in his physical prime as an athlete when he fought Shavers in 1975. When he met Cooney five years later in 1980, Lyle was older, slower, and less effective. By 1980, Lyle was easier to hit, and this explains why Cooney knocked him out so quickly.

I would rate Cooney's power one or two notches below that of Shavers and Foreman. Even so, Cooney was still a dangerous puncher who could knock anyone out with a single blow. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kenmore (talk • contribs) 16:10, 13 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Article Assessment

This is at best, a b level article. Although i am proud of myself for doing my history, and discovering more about this man, there is not enough of an article itself to declare it anymore than a mere average/ above average article.

Videos

Would the members of wikipedia mind if i posted video's of Cooney's youtube boxing matches?

I want the green Cooney boxing jacket I saw on a clip from Cooney vs Norton on youtube.com! :) I've never watched a boxing match before in my life but when I saw some of Gerry Cooney's fights on youtube, I was hooked! Macofishy 12:36, 15 June 2007 (UTC)GS[reply]

Quotes

Shouldn't the quotes be moved over to wikiquote?--Hndsmepete 01:26, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Some Edits

Dear boxing fans and wiki-authors; hmmm, this article is partly good, partly you get the feeling that some Cooney fan got carried away...

I deleted: "He was also sportsmanlike, stepping back after inflicting a low blow ... instincts."

He throws a low blow and is sportsmanlike? Come on ...

I changed: "Some believe he was winning until he was fined three points for repeated low blows in round 10."

The low blows weren't all in round 10, and two judges had him winning without the point deductions. Source: Larry Holmes, Against the odds - I will add it later. (Done.)

I deleted "Many feel he had real potential, but was limited by his lack of experience."

Folks, this kind of statement doesn't belong in wikipedia, right?

I deleted: "Foreman, Holmes, and Lyle all stated that Cooney's left was the hardest they had ever taken. It is also notable that Holmes had also previously fought Earnie Shavers, and at the time stated Shavers had the most powerful blow he had ever received."

This is unsourced, and this source quotes Larry Holmes as saying: "I would make Gerry one of the top fighters. I tell everybody, of all of the hard punchers I've met, Gerry was probably the third hardest because Ken Norton punched hard and Earnie Shavers punched hard.". Herbmuell (talk) 16:03, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Birth place

The article says he was born on Long Island, but his infobox says he was born in Manhattan. Does anyone know which it actually was? Lbr123 (talk) 16:37, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]