Talk:Hotel McAlpin

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Review: August 9, 2023. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Hotel McAlpin appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 December 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that several murals from New York City's Hotel McAlpin were reinstalled in the subway after being found in a dumpster?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hotel McAlpin.

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Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: article not moved, there is no consensus to move it ~~ GB fan ~~ 09:41, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hotel McAlpin → Herald Towers — Example: The Westin Book Cadillac Hotel isn't under Book-Cadillac, its original name. Relisted. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 16:08, 28 September 2010 (UTC) Chaplin62 (talk) 23:03, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Most of the elements of the articles describe its history as the McAlpin while its current status is negligibly elaborated on as it's just become another New York condo tower. The former name should be retained if it's mostly about that iteration. Nate • (chatter) 05:22, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The notability of this building is in its history as the hotel, and the article is rightly focussed on that aspect of the building. Andrewa (talk) 18:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 04:08, 30 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Herald Towers, formerly the Hotel McAlpin

... that several murals from New York City's Hotel McAlpin were found in a dumpster and reinstalled in a subway station? Source: Dunlap, David W. (April 29, 2001). "Postings: Rescued McAlpin Hotel Murals From 1912 Find a Home in the Subway; For Terra Cotta, Terra Firma". The New York Times.
- ALT1: ... that several murals from New York City's Hotel McAlpin were reinstalled in the subway after being found in a dumpster? Source: Dunlap, David W. (April 29, 2001). "Postings: Rescued McAlpin Hotel Murals From 1912 Find a Home in the Subway; For Terra Cotta, Terra Firma". The New York Times.
- ALT2: ... that the Hotel McAlpin, valued at $5.5 million in 1934, was sold for $135,000 in 1936? Source: "High Realty Value on Broadway Plot". The New York Times. February 11, 1934. p. RE2; "Plaintiff Buys Hotel McAlpin In Foreclosure: Title Firm Pays $135,000 Upset Price Over Liens; Three Theaters Also Sold". New York Herald Tribune. November 24, 1936. p. 45
- ALT3: ... that the Hotel McAlpin, once New York City's largest hotel, later became a house? Source: Dunlap, David W. (March 2, 1997). "The Anatomy of a 'People Building'". The New York Times; "McAlpin makes a comeback". Daily News. June 14, 1980. p. 287. Retrieved November 25, 2022. The "house" in question is the McAlpin House.
- ALT4: ... that Jackie Robinson was living in New York City's Hotel McAlpin when he learned he would be the first African American player in Major League Baseball? Source: Eig, Jonathan (June 3, 2007). "'Opening Day: The Story of Jackie Robinson's First Season'". The New York Times.
- Reviewed: Panasonic Executive Partner

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 14:30, 28 November 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Epicgenius: Good expansion! Approving in good faith due to offline citations. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:34, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Passed. ~ Argenti Aertheri^(Chat?) 02:19, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Argenti Aertheri (talk · contribs) 08:34, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Review status[edit]

Review last updated at 22:38, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	See below
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	See below
	7. Overall assessment.

Issues[edit]

Lead image needs an actual caption.

The last three images convey the same general information, and aren't particularly high quality. Either replace them with better images (perhaps of the interior) or just ditch them. The seemingly random snapshots are distracting in an otherwise good article.

"When the hotel opened, it had 1,500 guest rooms and 1,100 bathrooms... At its peak, the McAlpin contained 1,700 rooms." What? Is that 1,500 guest rooms? The source technically says 1,700 moms, so something definitely went awry somewhere.

Everything else looks good!

@Argenti Aertheri: Thanks for the review. I've modified the lead image's caption and removed two of the last three images. The hotel had 1,700 guestrooms later in its existence, since some of the smaller rooms were split up, but these guestrooms have since been combined into apartments. Sadly, I could not find any good images of the interior. Epicgenius (talk) 22:58, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Images and their captions look good! And my mistake on the number of rooms

Facepalm ~ Argenti Aertheri^(Chat?) 02:16, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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