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Former featured article candidateI Feel It Coming is a former featured article candidate. Please view the links under Article milestones below to see why the nomination was archived. For older candidates, please check the archive.
Good articleI Feel It Coming has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 4, 2024Good article nomineeListed
July 16, 2024Peer reviewReviewed
August 6, 2024Featured article candidateNot promoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 2, 2024.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the music video for the Weeknd's "I Feel It Coming" takes inspiration from people entombed in volcanic ash from the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 AD?
Current status: Former featured article candidate, current good article

Music video

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Where is the music video for the song? Mchernyavsky 17:52, 19 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Chernyavsky (talk • contribs)

Infobox

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What is the genre of this song? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayane m (talk • contribs) 23:37, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I think is pop disco!. LuigiPortaro29 (talk) 20:06, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Nominator: AskeeaeWiki (talk · contribs)

Reviewer: Pollosito (talk · contribs) 23:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section):
    b (inline citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
    (source spot-check done):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Hi, AskeeaeWiki. I'll be reviewing this article in a few days. Before we start, I want you to keep in mind that I am extremely nervous, because this will be the first GA review I have done. Additionally, some often review articles by article elements (verifiability, prose, wikified, etc.); However, I will look at all of this by sections of the article, because that makes it easier for me (I hope you understand, because I think that was not clear). Best, Santi (talk) 23:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pollosito Hey, it's all good. I was insanely nervous when reviewing my first article. This article was the first one I've worked a lot on, so there will be flaws, but I am ready to listen to what you have to say! Take your time, there's no time limit on when a review should end. 𝘮𝘪𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘦𝘭'𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘮𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘺, 00:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Background and release

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  • The first paragraph was the only thing that convinced me about the section, I really like the prose, so I don't see any problems with it for now. However, it seems to me that reference 4 is redundant, because the same thing is told in the Vogue article.
     Done Fixed, removed redundant reference
  • The reference 6 only talks about the release of Starboy, it never talks about the title track, neither in the original nor in the archive.
     Done Added reference to support.
  • In the third paragraph, according to the reference, "I Feel It Coming" and "Party Monster" were apparently announced on November 16, not 17. Additionally, I suggest that you strengthen the verifiability of these claims a little, regarding when the singles were actually announced.
     Done Used the Weeknd's tweet to support
  • I suggest that you complement the fourth paragraph with the references that are present in the Release history section. I recommend that you rely on Anti-Hero (song) for the prose.
     Done I used the release history to expand the 4th paragraph.
  • Speaking of complementing the release of "I Feel It Coming" as a single, the chart in the aforementioned section presents that it was also released on November 18 as a digital single, but its reference is dead. Is it possible to replace it so as not to have unforeseen problems with verifiability?
     Done Found a reference that is not dead
  • I see that both the reviewer and the nominator are active, so the comments have been addressed immediately and therefore the section is better seen. However, I will make observations about these changes:
    • Regarding the simultaneous release of the two singles, it was already clear to me that Amy Phillips wrote the article in Pitchfork on the same day that the Weeknd announced them. I suggest not using primary source from social media. With the Vibe reference (in the Release History section) it is more than enough to make the situation clearer.
     Done Removed tweet
    • I'm still not convinced by the prose of the fourth (now third) paragraph. "After its initial release as a non-radio single, "I Feel It Coming" was pushed as Starboy's second radio single by XO and Republic Records, being sent to contemporary hit radio in the United Kingdom on November 24, 2016" => "On November 17, 2016, it was released for download in Apple Music through XO and Republic Records. The song was pushed as Starboy's second radio single by XO and Republic, being sent to contemporary hit radio in the United Kingdom on November 24" For Apple Music, you should reuse the Vibe reference. For "Starboy's second radio single", use a reliable source that makes this observation. Not primary source.
     Done Fixed wording, removed second radio single information as I don't think it's really relevant
  • The section is almost ready. Now I will focus on the references. References 1, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 9 are missing the names of the authors, which must be included under the "last" and "first" parameters. References 6, 7 and 9 should be archived. Reference 11 needs to be restructured (change the ref code).
     Partly done I do apologize if I seem dumb in any way, but I don't know how to restructure the ref code. Also, the Vibe article doesn't have a first and last name, it's only "Vibe".

Music and recording

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  • The references 14, 16, 17, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25 and 26 should be archived.
     Done
  • The references 15, 19, 22 and 23 need authorship.
     Done
  • For the reference 16, you can remove the "website" parameter, which has "tingen.org", which is not necessary because it's a personal page that bears the name of its author. Likewise, could it be replaced with another reference that confirms the same thing that that line says? If not, don't worry, that is my insecurity, but it's an article that has already been presented in the Australian and German press, in addition to being a secondary source and written by a professional editor and musician.
     Not done For now, see comments
  • In the "website" parameter in the reference 21, replace "www.musicnotes.com" to "Musicnotes".
     Done
  • Between the text and reference 23 there is an uncomfortable space. Delete it, please.
     Done
  • In the "website" parameter in the reference 24, replace "k104.7.com" to "WJBR".
     Done
  • In the "website" parameter in the reference 26, the name of Revolt (TV network) is with a capital "n". Change to lower case for correct linking. Santi (talk) 00:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Done
  • "In an interview with Zane Lowe, the Weeknd talked about recording with Daft Punk, stating that he had first met one half of Daft Punk, Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo" => "In an interview with Zane Lowe, the Weeknd talked about recording with Daft Punk, stating that he had first met one half of them, Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo", to avoid repeating the subject of the sentence too many times.
     Done
  • "He told Lowe that Daft Punk wanted his vocals to sound as "authentic and retro" as possible, with the duo directing him through the process" => "He told Lowe that the duo wanted his vocals to sound as "authentic and retro" as possible, with them directing him through the process", for the same.
     Done
  • "In the interview with Variety, the Weeknd stated that him and Daft Punk finished the two songs in four days" => "In the interview with Variety, the Weeknd stated that him and the duo finished the two songs in four days", for the same, again.
     Done
  • "The song's sheet music, published by Songs Music Publishing at Musicnotes.com" Delete ".com".
     Done
  • Link "beats per minute"
     Done
  • "The song's first verse opens with the Weeknd asking his lover to tell him what they "really like", in which Complex's Ross Scarano describes as being sung in a way that doesn't sound like the Weeknd will insist the listener "really like[s] anonymous sex in a cramped bathroom stall followed by a crying jag."" => "Complex's Ross Scarano described the verse "Tell me what you really like" as being sung in a way that "doesn't sound like he's about to insist that you really like anonymous sex in a cramped bathroom stall followed by a crying jag." The initial phrase tends to be a primary source due to a close interpretation, but one that moved away a little.
     Done
  • "The pre-chorus has the Weeknd persuade his lover to trust him" => "The pre-chorus has the Weeknd persuade his lover to believe he's the right."
     Done
  • "to a heartbroken lover, who the Weeknd attempts to persuade into trying him out" => "to a heartbroken woman, who needs to be persuaded to try him out" I think that's more convenient due to repetition of the subject, and because the lover's a woman, it's not a random lover.
     Done
  • "He further reassures his lover, telling them" => "He further tries to reassure his lover, telling her" for the same.
     Done

Critical reception

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  • This section is mostly passed. Excellent work for the section, it has been the best you have had. However, " ""I Feel It Coming," is a gem of Ibiza disco love " => " "'I Feel It Coming', is a gem of Ibiza disco love ". Archive and add authorship of the respective references that lack either (or both) in this section.
     Done

Commercial performance

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  • This section will need to be significantly rewritten. However, calm down! I will guide you through the process after analyzing the section a little more and comparing with other GAs:
  • Let's start with the simplest. "Following its initial release as a promotional single, the song entered the Billboard Hot 100 at number 48 on the chart dated December 10, 2016, before rising to number 22 the following week after the release of Starboy." => "In the United States, "I Feel It Coming" jumped 26 spots to number 22 on at the Billboard Hot 100 after the release of Starboy, due to an increase to 11.2 million streams in the country."
     Done
  • "After its official release as a single, the song reached its number four peak on the chart dated April 15, 2017. The song spent 26 weeks on the chart." => "Later, it climbed to number four on April 15, 2017, and spent 26 weeks on the chart."
     Done
  • ""I Feel It Coming" was certified 6× platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America on April 5, 2022, for selling six million units in the United States." => "The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) certified the single 6× Platinum, which denotes six million units based on sales and track-equivalent on-demand streams."
     Done
  • Link "6x Platinum" to RIAA certification.
     Done
  • I suggest you add this source to verify "Later, it climbed to number four on the chart dated April 15, 2017, and spent 26 weeks on the chart." more safely. Don't delete the other source that's there, just add additionally.
     Done
  • Delete "Elsewhere, the song reached the top of the chart in France, and reached the top ten in other countries including Australia, Canada, Ireland, and the United Kingdom." which is the part that needs restructuring the most.
     Done
  • Add this: ""I Feel It Coming" peaked within the top five in national record charts, number two in Israel, Portugal, number three in Belgium (Flanders and Wallonia), Canada, Poland, number four in Argentina, Hungary, the Netherlands, and number five in Czech Republic, Norway, Slovakia and Sweden. Elsewhere, it topped the chart in France and peaked within the top ten in Australia (7), New Zealand (7), and the United Kingdom (9). It received a platinum certification in New Zealand, multi-platinum in Australia (8x Platinum), Canada (5x Platinum), the UK (2x Platinum), and diamond in France." Reuse references for each position and certification mentioned. In case there is an error in the process, you simply change the names of the references in the code each time they were used.
     Done
  • Finally, link "certification" to Music recording certification and put the new paragraph above that of the United States.
     Done

Music video

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Development

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  • I cannot find in reference 61 that mentions the date of recording the video. Additionally, you can reference the video on YouTube for release; look at I Can See You to see the way it should be put.
     Done
  • Is there more information about critical reception of the video? If not, there is no problem.
    •  Not done From what I've observed, the sources simply have a summarized version of the video's synopsis.

Sypnosis

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  • Archiving and authorship of the sources (the 64 is archived)
     Done

Live performances

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  • I moved ahead of the section, even though we haven't finished the previous ones. Sorry for getting ahead of myself, but I'm consulting regarding this section and I don't want to lose the sources I found and they will be very useful for what I'm going to tell you. It would be convenient if you also added that the song was part of the setlist of Starboy: Legend of the Fall Tour and After Hours til Dawn Tour with these references: 1, 2. For the latter, you must also include the "Language" parameter and add "es-MX" to it
     Done
  • I would like to know if the live performances present in the section have been the only ones that you have been able to verify or if there are more. If it's the latter, I suggest you search Concert Archives, search for "The Weeknd" and all of his performances will appear there, but you will have to look for references that confirm each of them. Concerts that could not be verified simply skip them. It is the same strategy that I used for my current GANs.
     Done, i'm currently adding the final source for the Weeknd Asia Tour, I have found everything. If anything more does come up I will add it.
  • Hey, this source will help you confirm the song's performance at the 2022 Coachella Festival.
     Done
  • Also this to confirm the performance at Global Citizen Festival 2018. Tecate Live Out 2018 has the potential to be verified, but I couldn't because all the references are in Spanish. Try searching on it to find a source in English. For Life is Beautiful Festival, I could only find one that could confirm the submission, but it won't let me in because it supposedly has the potential for "cyber attacks." Also this to confirm the Mawazine Festival 2018. Finally, that's it! I already managed to get all the gigs that could be verified, so, job done.
     Done, couldn't find anything on Tecate Live Out sadly.
  • Regarding the Asia Tour setlist, the reference speaks only to the Singaporean experience of the tour. Instead, I only found references that referred to specific concerts on the tour, but never in general. Therefore, we would have to do the same thing I did in Classy 101. Instead of risking a mistake by taking a single reference that does not refer to a general setlist, we must put a note that says "Attributed to such" and reference the corresponding ones. I will look for those references that I mentioned to save you work.
     Done
  • The description of his show at Grammy 2017 can be added, based on source. It is a common practice of GAs on songs, especially if the singers are women.
     Done
  • Authorship for ref 68.
     Done

Credits and personnel

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  • Replace the reference 2 to this: <ref name="Starboy - Republic Records">{{cite AV media notes |title=Starboy |type=liner notes |author=[[The Weeknd]] |year=2016 |publisher=[[Republic Records]]}}</ref>.
     Done

Charts

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  • Passed.

Certifications

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  • Passed.

Release history

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  • Passed.

Infobox

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  • Delete references. It is not necessary to reuse them in the infobox, because everything there is already covered by the article body.
     Done

Files

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  • Passed. You can add alt text in all images, it is totally optional, not required.
     Done

Additional

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  • Did the song never receive awards and nominations? I'm sorry for asking until now, but I just remembered.
     Done Yes, it received nominations and some awards, which is something I'll have to work on soon. I am working on it now.

Comments

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Disco-pop

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Please do not create hybrid links per WP:STICKTOSOURCE: "Source material should be carefully summarized or rephrased without changing its meaning or implication. Take care not to go beyond what the sources express or to use them in ways inconsistent with the intention of the source, such as using material out of context." In this case, disco-pop should not be linked like disco-pop. Attempts to create that article as a re-direct have been deleted several times, Attempts to create a disco-pop article, even as a re-direct have been deleted several times, so we shouldn't be doing this here. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:47, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 13:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Improved to Good Article status by AskeeaeWiki (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

𝘮𝘪𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘦𝘭'𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘮𝘦𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘺, 04:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Eligible, neutral, sourced inline, no copyvio, valid image licenses (including fair use rationale for the single cover), no QPQ required etc.
  • Technically the hook fact must be sourced inline in the article at the end of the sentence, whereas it's currently at the end of the paragraph. All that's required is repeating the same inline citation at the end of the sentence.
  • "weren't" violates MOS:CONTRACT, I think the "Personnel" section needs en dashes (–) rather than hyphens (-) (per MOS:LISTDASH) and in my opinion music journalists is an WP:OVERLINK (phrase understood by most readers in context).
  • In my opinion, the prose is on the wordy side. One example: "He then went to a recording studio in Paris with Daft Punk, where they presented him with the draft instrumental". Could the same information be conveyed by: "At a Paris recording studio, Daft Punk presented him with the draft instrumental."? Another, before: Wolfson criticized that there was "probably not one original idea" in the song, but further stated that it did not matter due to its "spectacular" execution. After: Wolfson said the lack of originality in the song was outweighed by its "spectacular" execution.

The wording is largely good enough for DYK, although I'd still like the examples above to be improved. I think we'll be good to go when this and the hook inline citation are addressed. Overall it's clear a lot of work has gone into this article and it's in a good state. — Bilorv (talk) 22:00, 6 April 2024 (UTC) @Bilorv[reply]

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