Talk:De La Salle Brothers
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Text removed from St. Joseph High School (Westchester, Illinois)
Possibly of some use here (but note the image is fair use, unknown provenance):
Christian Brothers and the Lasallian Tradition
SJHS is a Lasallian school and a part of the Christian Brothers Midwest District.
The Brothers of the Christian Schools, known as the De La Salle Christian Brothers, are members of one of the largest worldwide societies in the Roman Catholic Church. St. Jean Baptist de La Salle in France founded the order in 1680 for the purpose of providing a Christian education for youth. For more than three hundred years, in over eighty countries, the Christian Brothers have conducted elementary and secondary schools along with colleges and universities.Currently, in the United States, nearly 2,000 Christian Brothers are involved in educational enterprises representing 75 high schools, several middle schools and seven colleges and universities. Alumni of Lasallian schools have traditionally shared a common bond of unity and pride through the years.
- The first paragraph is specific to SJHS. The second is already more or less included in the article or in the related Lasallian educational institutions. The third may be added to the introduction of the latter article; however, I am reluctant to do so since it is not sourced.
- Following your suggestion, I introduced the image into the article; it is different to the one presently given in Jean-Baptiste de la Salle, and fits the scope of the article well. However, I used a higher-resolution version that was available on the Commons (shown to the left). Ayla 20:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Ignorantines = Lasallians?
St Joseph's College, Ipswich
I have removed the edit about abuse at St Joseph's College, Ipswich. There are no articles, that I can find, that mention any abuse by a past headmaster or anyone for that matter at that school.
There are articles on a St Joseph College in Australia or one in Croydon but not the one in Ipswich. The reference only mentions the property being sold, nothing about any abuse. Because of the controversy of the edit, I have removed it. If anyone can back it up with a secondary source, I will more than happy to have it restored. Pjposullivan (talk) 18:29, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
This sentence was inserted in the comment above at 12:02, 28 August 2017 by Survivora; I've moved it here:
(Try this then ) https://patmills.wordpress.com/2016/10/21/roll-of-dishonour/
- The problem is that this reference doesn't conform with the Wikipedia policy on reliable sources; if used to support text in the article, it would quickly be deleted by someone. If a published news source can be supplied, then the text becomes acceptable, and the Wikipedia community will resist it being deleted if it's notable and relevant. You'll see by my other comments in this discussion that I've objected to, and reverted, deletion of reliably sourced information. I'm not trying to lay down the law here, rather to point out that what's needed is to find a published source; that's the way to get anything accepted by the multitude of people editing Wikipedia. Best wishes, Pol098 (talk) 13:54, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
"Sanitisation" of reliably-sourced sexual abuse
There has been at least one attempt by an unregistered editor to remove the impeccably-sourced section on sexual abuse in Northern Ireland by the De La Salle Brothers which was the subject of a 2014 official inquiry, with edit summary Sexual abuse of boys: This section referred to incidents committed by the Congregation of the Christian Brothers, NOT the Institute of the Brothers of the Christian Schools: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/20_05_09_abuse.pdf. Whether this was done in ignorance, or as a deliberate attempt to remove material (justifiably) critical of the De La Salle Brothers I can't say. The article cites the 2014 Northern Ireland Historical Institutional Abuse Inquiry; the source claimed correctly but irrelevantly in the summary not to mention the De La Salle Brothers is actually the 2009 Ryan Commission report, relating only to Eire (Ireland), and not the different country Northern Ireland. Future edits regarding this section need to be checked for validity; existing sources for the section are robust. Pol098 (talk) 13:08, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Another blatant example, a year later. This one is definitely intentional. Pol098 (talk) 21:51, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Requested move 21 August 2016
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