Talk:Jamie Campbell Bower

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BLP violation?[edit]

Dear 75.47.128.20 (talk · contribs), you have stated that this edit violates WP:BLP. I would like to know which aspect of BLP policy is being violated. Please note that there are two sections in the edit and that your revert has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. Also note that when making a serious charge, such as BLP violation, that you need to cite which section of the policy has been violated, you can't expect us to read your mind and accept that as truth. Elizium23 (talk) 05:19, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I see that the aforementioned editor has been blocked, ironically for violating BLP policy. I think the argument is now moot. Elizium23 (talk) 19:04, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Movie role[edit]

Jamie Campbell Bower also has a lead role in the Dutch movie "Winter in Wartime" which was released 18 March 2011. He plays the role of Jack, a British airman shot down over Holland during WWII. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.166.89.205 (talk) 02:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Character name in The Mortal Instruments (series)[edit]

The character name as stated in The Mortal Instruments (series) is Jace Wayland. It is mentioned in the article Jace Wayland that his surname changes throughout the series between four different names. For consistency's sake, we should establish consensus on what to call him in this article. I suggest Wayland, because that is how he is listed in the series article. Elizium23 (talk) 03:21, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Infobox image[edit]

I reverted the change to the infobox not only because it was not discussed here first, but also because the image is only 150x150 pixels and of inferior quality to the one that was already there. It was also not any more recent, being also from 2009. I could be convinced to support adding the other image somewhere in the article for the sake of illustration, but I would not recommend restoring it to the infobox. Elizium23 (talk) 03:40, 8 June 2012 (UTC)


I'm sorry I forgot to discuss changing the picture. I saw the picture, and it wasn't my favorite, so I thought I would change it. For the record I'm pretty sure that picture was from 2011. But anyways, I found a newer picture that is from the ELLE Style Awards. Here are a variety or pictures I think you should consider using. http://gossip-dance.blogspot.com/2012/02/photos-jamie-campell-bower-at-2012-elle.html
ConnorDSimmons (talk)ConnorDSimmons —Preceding undated comment added 04:07, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Ah, I see that the image you submitted has insufficient copyright status. Did you know that Wikipedia only uses freely licensed images for biographies? It is not permitted to simply copy an image from the web and use it. The person who took File:JamieCampbellBowerCCJuly09.jpg posted it to Flickr with a Creative Commons license, and gave permission for its use on Wikipedia. This is the kind of thing we need to adhere to closely. Wikipedia is built of freely licensed information, and non-free works can only be used in limited circumstances. Thank you for your understanding. Elizium23 (talk) 04:11, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
The picture still bothers me for some reason. I did some looking around and I found a picture of him on Flickr. It is a picture of him in the movie Camelot which aired this year. On Flickr it says "Some rights reserved". Does this mean we are aloud to use it on here? http://www.flickr.com/photos/anhonorablegerman/6997359128/
ConnorDSimmons (talk) 04:30, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Yes, that image is licensed CC-BY 2.0, which is a compatible license for Wikipedia. You should tag the image with {{flickrreview}} when uploading it on Commons, so that a reviewer can confirm the license is compatible. Elizium23 (talk) 04:36, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Ok! Thanks for your patience and understanding. ConnorDSimmons (talk) 04:40, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
Ok, I uploaded it now on Commons. Would you be against me making it his new picture? ConnorDSimmons (talk) 04:53, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused... How do you tag images? ConnorDSimmons (talk) 06:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
I am very sorry, but I was mistaken. I did not look closely at the image and it turns out it cannot be licensed that way. The image was stolen from the web and republished illegally by that author using Commons:Commons:License laundering. Sorry to disappoint you. Elizium23 (talk) 12:34, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

personal life[edit]

Jamie's personal life

Hi . I'm a huge fan of Jamie, . a note on then engagement being called off in june 2012, i think ti was called off before that but it wasn't announced till ast year — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.237.195.40 (talk) 19:41, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

New image discussion[edit]

It is blurry. It looks like he has a microphone growing out of his chin. His hair is messy. Elizium23 (talk) 04:58, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Dating gossip is trivia[edit]

Gossip about who Bower has dated for a few months is trivia and kind of irrelevant to a biography of his professional work. There is no need to keep it in the article. Consensus is growing across WP:ACTOR project to leave out trivial relationships until they are noteworthy, i.e. they become engaged or life partners, etc. Elizium23 (talk) 00:01, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

I have no desire to engage in an edit war, but the other editors restoring this trivia have not discussed it here. I invite you to achieve consensus here to include the material here rather than edit-warring to keep it in. Thank you. Elizium23 (talk) 22:47, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
This is not an issue of gossip or non-gossip. It is an issue of proper citation and sourcing, see WP:Source. If you are unfamiliar with the general rule then read this link. An edit with a verifiable citation should not be deleted by wiki rules and procedures. If you have an opposing citation you may add it to the edit according to wiki policy. 66.99.0.84 (talk) 21:38, 26 August 2013 (UTC)66.99.0.84 (talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
Of course it can and will be deleted. This is not about verifiability. Certainly "reliable" sources spend much time and energy reporting who is dating whom in the Hollywood world. However, WP:NOT: Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Wikipedia is not a tabloid. And Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Some things are not notable or encyclopedic enough to rise to the level of inclusion in a biography of a living person. Wikipedia should be concerned about Bower's career and public life, not about people he dates. If he ate the same thing on Wednesday every week, would that be notable for inclusion here? Nope, and neither is his current girlfriend. There is growing consensus at WP:ACTOR to remove dating gossip from articles, but as we can see, there are plenty of anonymous IPs here at this article willing to cram it back in with a drive-by edit. It is most unwelcome. Elizium23 (talk) 00:08, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

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