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if you think about it history is repeting its self, as 1800s to ukieo-e as 2000s to anime ^{commentary added by 65.6.188.49, --RPD 00:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)}[reply]

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Needed

Article on Bertha Lum. Badagnani 05:34, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article on Will Bradley is not the correct artist. Linked article is about a Big Band leader, not visual artist. Myivories88 (talk) 17:29, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Artists and movements

There is text missing at the beginning of the third paragraph of this section, after "influenced" Awien (talk) 22:20, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, thanks Johnbod (talk) 22:34, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome (but who ya callin' ISP?!?). Awien (talk) 22:44, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am editing this page as a part of a class assignment for a University. I have added a section on Japonism in Britain which includes a description of James McNeill Whistler. I also plan on editing the History section to make it more cohesive. My edits will focus on Japonism in fine arts (specifically in France), however I will also add a section dedicated to the influence on decorative arts in Europe. Sgj7 (talk) 23:26, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Some of these changes seem too drastic. But I will let you get on for now. Johnbod (talk) 01:18, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2 February 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 01:38, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Japonism → Japonisme – Tried to move page, but error message says a page titled "Japonisme" exists. "Japonisme" is the correct term for this movement & is used uniformly throughout the art world --see all art history textbooks, every major museum website. Web search examples, books: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&biw=1440&bih=693&tbm=bks&ei=1TU2XpunOISYsQWpsLroDg&q=Japonisme+art+history+&oq=Japonisme+art+history+&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i299k1.987.2889.0.3146.17.10.1.0.0.0.243.629.0j3j1.4.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..12.5.632...0i13k1.0.yjGcKvlZFxM and museums: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Japonisme+museum+. Iandaandi (talk) 02:38, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support, obviously. This should just have been speedily moved as a typo, via WP:RM/TR. I've been studying Art Nouveau and its Asian relatives my whole life, and don't recall ever seeing Japonism in this context, which is some kind of (probably Wikipedian-invented) "Franglais". An uncommon English-only actual cognate is Japanism, but this term is mostly applied to something else entirely (it's used as a socio-political label [1], though I did turn up a single art book in English using it; it also can mean the same things as Nipponism, mentioned below). In reality, almost all English-language sources on art and design use the French term japonisme, but usually capitalized in English [2] (along with the related Chinoiserie [3]). Japonisme is nearly never used in English except in this arts context. I can't find much for Japonism beyond a modern music album by Taro Hakase, and another by Arashi. I did find a single humanities book, Orienting Arthur Waley: Japonism, Orientalism, and the Creation of Japanese Literature in English, but it's unconnected to our topic, since it's about writing, not the visual arts. An alternative French term is japonaiserie, but this is rare in English sources, and not even common in French ones, despite being more consistent which chinoiserie. Digging about further, I think what has happened here is sister-project WP:CIRCULAR: while wikt:Japonisme somehow remained a redlink (I just fixed that), someone created a wikt:Japonism page (without any sourcing, yet with the dubious claim that it's our art term, when actual sources use it for something else entirely), and then someone (else, or same person – I decline to check) put the en.WP article at the same spelling, despite RS going about 99% in favor of Japonisme. PS: I thought to look for Nipponism, just in case; it's attested but rare, and does not appear to be connected to art, but has been used instead (mostly by academics) as generic label to refer to Japanese customs/traditions, and more specifically in linguistics to refer to a Japanese loan-word or -phrase in another language or vice versa. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 11:34, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom and SMcCandlish. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:23, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Excessive galleries

I get that articles about the visual arts need a lot of images, and are a great opportunity to show off images that have been shared with us thanks to GLAM partnerships. However, in some articles galleries are over-used in a way that detracts from the article, and the present state of this article is an example. Galleries after the main body text are a good idea, and we have one of those, but we also have a gallery under Seclusion and another under Nineteenth century re-opening. These are large enough break up the flow of text. I'm going to be bold and move images around. Happy if someone wants to revert and discuss towards a different solution. MartinPoulter (talk) 12:10, 28 May 2020 (UTC) Also noting that some image captions give excessive detail about the objects, which belongs in the item's record on Commons (users who are curious about an object's dimensions should be able to find out just by clicking) but are not essential to the article. MartinPoulter (talk) 12:11, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]