Talk:Jarl (disambiguation)

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Wrong[edit]

First, I dont see the point of comparing the two titles Earl and Jarl. They were apparently different, although they sounded smilar.

Secondly, it seems the title Jarl, who, at least in Norway and Sweden, was a person in charge of the army, in Sweden was replaced by Marsk, a Scandinavian form of Marschall.

The last jarl in Sweden died in 1366, and the function was then given to a man with the title Marsk. One person in 1910 had the personal opinion that Dux was the same as Jarl, which has since been repeated, with no confirming source or evidence. It remains an opinion, and Theres plenty of arguments against it.

In Norway, Skule Bårdsson was first Jarl in 1217, and as such got responsibility for the army, and then in 1237, as another attempt of compromise, Skule was given the first Norwegian title of duke (hertug). There is no indication that those two titles meant the same thing, or was mixed. He was first Jarl, and then also Hertig (Duke), but after he became Hertig/Duke he kept his title Jarl.

1295 was the year was the last elected jarl in Norway. 1309 archbishop and jarl Jörund, the last jarl in Norway, who was called jarl in Norway, 70 after Norway had its first hertig (Duke) Nothing indicates that Duke replaced the title Jarl in Norway.

Dan Koehl (talk) 17:01, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 December 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 03:32, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jarl → Jarl (disambiguation)
Jarl (title) → Jarl

– That Jarl (title) might be renamed simply Jarl -- there is really no ambiguity as to what it refers to. Besides, Earl has no '(title)' appendage, despite the volume of people named 'Earl' vastly outnumbering those named 'Jarl'.) —General534 (talk) 19:29, 4 December 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 03:19, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Very clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:43, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Relister's comment: if I read this correctly, this is actually also a move request for Jarl (title) to the base name. As such, the RM notif also need to be there for at least seven days. I've added the associated move accordingly. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 21:18, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There is still no notification at Jarl (title) and Talk:Jarl (title). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:24, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I've...tried to manually add it just now. I changed the relist date here and will see how it goes. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 03:19, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 21:46, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom—blindlynx 01:06, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 20:58, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Aoba47 (talk) 21:28, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.