Talk:John Connors (American politician)

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Requested move 21 May 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved to John Connors (politician) per Necrothesp's suggestion. Also, John Connors will be moved to John Connors (VC), and John Connors (disambiguation) to John Connors. (closed by non-admin page mover) GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 18:52, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

John H. Connors → John Connors – I am not certain this is the right way to do this, but I already tried putting a request in at the Requested Moves page a couple of weeks ago and now I can't find it there and the change I requested doesn't appear to have happened. Anyhow, there is a page right now on an Iowa state senator called "John H. Connors". There is also a page called "John Connors", which is about someone else. And there's another page about a John Connors who is an actor ("John Connors (actor)"). None of these pages is disambuguated from the others, there are no notes or anything that says, "Look over there if you meant that guy" anywhere on the pages. Also, the person called John H Connors wasn't someone who "went" by that name, he went by "John Connors". I understand that articles should have titles that show the most frequently used title for a subject, including articles on people (i.e., "Bill Clinton", etc.) If this is so, then it looks like something needs to be done to straighten out these three John Connorses from each other! I am not sure if this means that someone should make a disambiguation page that mentions all three, or if each page should have a note that says to look for the other ones other places, but I myself went looking for John Connors the senator and when I couldn't find him I wrote up an article, and it got accepted, but I had his middle initial wrong, and it turned out that the article already existed but I didn't know it because I just did a search on "John Connors" and didn't find the senator! I thought I could submit an article on him! People shouldn't have to wonder "Hm, maybe I should try spelling his name with his middle initial" in order to figure out where a person's article might be. Can someone fix this? Thank you. CreativeCartel (talk) 09:42, 21 May 2018 (UTC) CreativeCartel (talk) 09:42, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose target is occupied. John Connors (disambiguation) might be swapped with target but no this politician, who would be moved to John Connors (politician) if needs must. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:32, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The proposer is absolutely right that there should have been a hatnote on John Connors. I've just added one pointing to John H. Connors and John Connors (actor), so that should clear up that problem. The actor seems to be the WP:primary topic, considering only pageviews, so the move as proposed is not the best solution. Station1 (talk) 18:56, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Two of the three "External links" appended to the article indicate subject's name as "John H.", with one of the links, Find a Grave, depicting the gravestone inscription as "Connors John H". The John Connors (disambiguation) page may be considered as a subject for a separate discussion, but I would certainly vote for the moves John Connors → John Connors (VC) and John Connors (disambiguation) → John Connors. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 19:27, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Move John H. Connors to John Connors (politician), John Connors to John Connors (VC), and John Connors (disambiguation) to John Connors. No primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:34, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Necrothesp – no primary topic, so move the disambig page to John Connors and disambiguate the others. Dicklyon (talk) 02:38, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Necrothesp and Dicklyon. No primary topic here, so the DAB should be at the base name. The others should be disambiguated exactly as proposed by Necrothesp. Andrewa (talk) 17:53, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.