Talk:Lalaine

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Article name[edit]

Shouldn't the article be at Lalaine? She is more commonly known by that name. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names).
SimonMayer 05:55, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Native versus birthplace[edit]

Removed who is a native of Manila, Philippines, as she was born in California, and grew up in California. This negates being a native of anywhere, but California. If added, should maybe be listed as "cultural heritage is Philippino", or similiar. <>Who?¿? 8 July 2005 08:52 (UTC)

Just because he is born in Burbank doesnt mean he is a California native. Lalaine was born in California but she grew up in the Philippines from 1990-1995. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.104.136.77 (talk) 05:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hispanic American/Spanish American discussion[edit]

Sorry about the accusations of Vandalism Mrblondnyc, I guess it was made in good faith. I believe it was mentioned somewhere on her website that one of her grandparents was Spanish (as from Spain I think), which would make her 25% Spanish. I believe this is significant enough to consider her Spanish American. Additionally, according to U.S. census, anyone who can trace their lineage and such back to a country which has Spanish as it's first language (i.e. Spain) would technically be considered Hispanic. 03-Apr-2006 - Doomstars

I still think someone is considered Hispanic by U.S. census definition if their ancestry hails from any country which has Spanish as it's first language. (Not sure about Latino still.) One example would be Spain. Another example would be Mexico. A non-example would be Brazil. 06-Apr-2006 - Doomstars

I didn't see your comment here before I made the comment in the history page so please disregard that one.

I accept your apology. But I hope it wasn't you that got me blocked. Since her grandfather is from Spain, I stand corrected about her being Spanish-American. But from what I can tell, people of Spaniard descent are not necessarily considered "Hispanic/Latino". For example, I never see Martin Sheen referred to as a Hispanic/Latino even though he is half-Spanish. Actors Hank Azaria and Dan Hedaya are of Spanish Jewish Sephardic descent but they also are not considered Hispanic/Latino. (I saw Azaria on Conan O'Brien say his grandparents were from Spain) The Phoenix family (River, Joaquin, etc) also have considerable Spanish ancestry but also they are not considered as such. So from what I can tell maybe because Spain is a European country that people from there are not necessarily considered "Hispanic/Latino" but Europeans who happen to speak Spanish. So I left the "Spanish-American actors" category, but I deleted the "Hispanic American actors" category because none of the actors I mentioned, not even Banderas or Cruz, are listed as "Hispanic American". Thanks for responding.MrBlondNYC 09:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

In the article is says she's mestizo. Is there a source for that? Crumbsucker 01:11, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, it's pretty easy, guys. If there's a reliable source that calls Lalaine "Spanish" or "Spanish-American" (i.e. Lalaline herself, not her grandmother, father, or dog) then we can call her that and put her in that category, per Wikipedia policy. The quote she gives, which is reproduced here, seems to satisfy that requirement. The Phoenixes have a father who is described as being "of Spanish and Irish descent". I'm not sure if that means actually from Spain or just a Latin American country - for all we know - but this is the wrong place to discuss that. Mad Jack 04:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
One of Lalaine's parents is a Spanish-descended Filipino. End of Story.

i edited a few things on the ethnicity, it just sounded a bit amateurish, especially the bit someone tried to hide at the very end mentioning she also has chinese ancestry but only a little. Sounded unproffesional. hope you dont mind.--Jandela 04:47, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Heh. Maybe she dosen't even have any spanish in her. Maybe she's suffering from IMSCF Syndrome. Come on, Filipinos do it all the time. Coojah 04:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Image[edit]

Atleast she should have an image in the Articl. http://starbulletin.com/2005/03/17/features/art4a.jpg is good. Anyone, plz edit and have her pic in main article.

"Her name means 'wool' in French"[edit]

First of all, Lalaine doesn't mean "wool". Wool is laine, and Lalaine is closer to la laine, "the wool". Secondly, unless someone can point to a source for the idea that Lalaine is derived from the French word for wool, it counts as "original research" and so should not be included. ("Articles may not contain any previously unpublished arguments, concepts, data, ideas, statements, or theories.")--GagHalfrunt 09:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Lalaine inyg.jpg[edit]

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References[edit]

All 3 references in the article are dead link or not valid as of now. Someone pls provide the alternative references...Gprince007 15:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I've removed a dead link and added the imdb reference for the year of birth.Gprince007 08:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I think I read somewhere that Wikipedia policy or guideline is not to remove dead links in references. From memory the idea is someone can come up with another url to that site, or find it in an archive and put the archived url in the cite web template. In this case the original url was her official site which is a reliable source, the error message on the url suggests to me that it is a temporary problem and the new url is the imdb which is often considered an unreliable source. So I would prefer to keep the reference pointing to her official site, find it in an archive and fill in the archive url and date in the template. But I have no idea how these archive sites work; does somebody here know how? Alternatively we should make a mental note to restore the reference once the official site comes back. --Gidi70 15:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I did some looking myself and I can't get any further than [1], which contains the info but as white on white text. We could change the reference to
"Biography". Official Lalaine Website. Archived from the original on 2007-05-03. Retrieved 2007-05-05. 
Any thoughts on whether this is preferable? --Gidi70 16:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
It's a good idea....but since the background is all white the info is not visible.....thanx for enlightening me on "the dead url wikipedia policy".....i didnt know abt that....meanwhile i agree that as and when the official site is activated then we can restore the source. As of now i suggest that we include the above webarchive source as well as the existing imdb source in the article.....what say??? Gprince007 06:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, let's do that. BTW, I've found that guideline: What to do when a reference link "goes dead". It's less absolute than I remembered and it's not policy. Let's hope her official site comes back soon! --Gidi70 16:26, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Addition of "American Christians" category[edit]

Did I miss something where this was confirmed? WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 20:47, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I found something that says she goes to church every Sunday, not sure if that's good enough or if there's more out there. Ospinad (talk) 21:20, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Since it's a fansite, I wouldn't use it as a main source. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 15:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
You're right, the link I found it from was the fansite but the interview was from "Global Nation | INQ7.net" You can read the orginal here. In case it's not there long (the fansite is down too) this is what it said:

You basically grew up in the States. How Filipino are you now?

We go to Church every Sunday. I am very close to my family. At home, we have a big "Santo Niño" that you can see as soon as you enter our house. It was given by a good friend from the Philippines.

Ospinad (talk) 14:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

TMZ as a source for drug arrest??[edit]

Just now, somebody added that she was arrested for doing drugs. The source quoted is TMZ.com and it is written by "TMZ staffers" which i feel are just online-bloggers and not correspondents. I searched the net but couldnt get any alternate source for this claim....I feel that TMZ may not be reliable source and we need an alternate source before putting this info in the article. I want to know what others think of it....Gprince007 (talk) 18:42, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

There is a link under TMZ's blurb about her drug bust, they have a copy of the actual affidavit, if you click the blue "popped back" link in their story. I will not edit the page, but think it is a fair to include this in her bio since there is a legal affidavit to back up TMZ's claims. (Remember Harvey Levin, the editor of TMZ, is a lawyer and knows how to find ALL the public records of celebrities criminal arrests), direct link to bench warrant affidavit --> http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/0425_lalaine_wm_01.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.199.200.103 (talk) 22:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

i added the below tex due to addding 2 additional distinct sources:

Lalaine was arrested in 2007 and charged with felony possession of methamphetamine. She has pled guilty to the crystal meth charge, but her record will be expunged when she completes a drug-treatment program.[1][2][3]

References

I've removed this and it must not be readded unless better sources can be found. Per WP:BLP contentious statements about living people must be referenced to high quality sources, and the use of primary sources such as legal affidavits is strongly discouraged. Hut 8.5 21:35, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Silvershrek/censorship[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Silvershrek

Looking back at the article history this user is deleting all mention of rehab or anything negative from the article making comments such as "let it go, sheesh, they made mistakes" this seems utterly biased to me and totally goes against wikipedias aims and neutrality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.114.251.86 (talk) 08:50, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

just to prove my point please check this talk page where that user is now name calling and acusing me of being a clone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:87.114.251.86 87.114.251.86 (talk) 00:42, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

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