Talk:Lenborough Hoard

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Did you know... that the Lenborough Hoard, found just before Christmas 2014, is believed to be one of the largest hoards of Anglo-Saxon coins ever discovered in Britain?

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Royal Mint

Obviously not a mint for the "UK" at that time, but that article says: "The Royal Mint originated over 1,100 years ago, producing coins for England and eventually Great Britain." In fact it would nice to know elsewhere that there was a royal mint in Buckingham - that article currently doesn't tell us. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:49, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that we should be quoting Welch's speculation as if he is an expert, when he is just a metal detectorist. Given that the hoard comprises coins from the reigns of at least two kings it would seem rather unlikely that the coins were purloined from the royal mint, and I would prefer to remove mention of the mint unless a reliable expert raises the possibility of such a relationship. BabelStone (talk) 23:04, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Surely it existed, even it's relevance here is questionable. And only a day's walk away? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:08, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See The Buckingham Mint (BNJ 1965). BabelStone (talk) 23:17, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A nice source. Obviously in need of a new article. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:36, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting too that our Buckingham#History has no mention of it. BabelStone, you just volunteered to write it! --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 18:45, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would also remove Welch's non-expert speculation about the Norman Conquest, which is also rather dubious given that the coins date to at least 30 years prior to 1066. BabelStone (talk) 23:11, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Padbury Hoard or Lenborough Hoard ?

The Daily Mail reports that the find spot was at Lenborough, about half way between Padbury and Buckingham, and "Lenborough Hoard" is getting many more hits on Google and Twitter than "Padbury Hoard". Should we move the article to Lenborough Hoard ? BabelStone (talk) 23:30, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

BBC mentioned only Padbury and Buckingham on BBC News at Ten tonight. Suggest waiting to see what the broadsheets call it. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:39, 2 January 2015 (UTC) ... I see The Indy says "farmland near Lenborough"[reply]

Second largest

According to the BBC "Brett Thorn from Bucks County Museum said it was the largest hoard of Saxon coins ever found in the county and the second largest in the UK". Does anyone know what the largest hoard was? I think he's probably referring to the Cuerdale Hoard which included ~7,500 coins [1], but only a portion of those coins were Anglo-Saxon, so the Lenborough Hoard may still outnumber the Cuerdale Hoard in the number of Anglo-Saxon coins. It would be nice to find an authoritative source that says definitively that the Lenborough Hoard is the largest hoard of Anglo-Saxon coins ever discovered. BabelStone (talk) 10:43, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Which museum

I am just reading this article (for a DYK review) and in the section in the "Contents" section it says " If found to be so, the museum may be able to obtain the hoard" I'm not sure whether this is the British Museum or the Buckinghamshire County Museum. Is any clarification possible yet?— Rod ^talk 12:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The source suggest it's the local museum. so I've added that. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:59, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The source just says that the leader of the metal detecting club hopes that it will go on display at the local museum. I think it likely that the Bucks County Museum will wish to acquire the hoard, given the statement "We have about 4,000 Roman coins in the Bucks County Museum and only 30 Saxon ones" by Brett Thorn reported on the BBC, but unless the museum explicitly states that they are interested in acquiring the hoard we should not speculate as to where the hoard will end up. BabelStone (talk) 13:13, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Half measures

Sorry to be so pedantic, but "5,251 silver coins and one coin cut in half" equates to 5,252 coins, doesn't it? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:16, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not according to the sources. Perhaps "5,251 whole coins and one coin cut in half" would be better. The fact that the half coin was cut is significant, and worthy of explicit note. BabelStone (talk) 18:37, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Um, you mean "the halved coin"? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:41, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, of course! It took me ten minutes to figure out what you meant, but you are right, "one coin cut in half" may mean two half coins. BabelStone (talk) 18:58, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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