Talk:List of American Horror Story cast members/Archive 1
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Ok to link to a Wikia?
I know that we can't go into uber-depth about the characters on this page, but does anyone know if it's OK to link to a Wikia? I'm sort of dodgy on the policy on that, to be honest. In specific, I wanted to link to this Wikia: American Horror Story Wikia since it's so well laid out and so detailed. I've been using it to refresh my memory on some of the smaller character points, but I've tried to make the wording different. (There's only so many ways you can phrase some of the character info, though.) Tokyogirl79 (talk) 10:09, 29 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79
- I'll let another Wikipedia rep answer about adding a link to it, but, about using Wikia to "refresh your memory," please be careful in doing so, as anything listed here (at Wiki) that is similar to other websites can be removed without warning. Sometimes it's best to write what you basically know for an article, check around for similar work here and online, then change anything similar in yours to prevent removal. For this character list, sometimes the best background work to do is to watch the episodes from the beginning and write about them — uber-depth and all. I refer you to another current TV show's character list: List of Dexter characters. I have yet to see any article be removed for too much information, although it is frowned upon. — WylieCoyote (talk) 20:34, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
- P.S. I saw an external link to Wikia on another show, so I linked ours on the show's main page. I guess it's okay as long as our info is different. — WylieCoyote (talk) 02:59, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Vivien Harmon Character Page
I merged the info from her page into her character section here. If you see any more merging done and it disrupts the flow of THIS article, please remove it since it has been done by a "bot." Thanks. (P.S. Good luck in creating a future character page!) — WylieCoyote (talk) 02:34, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Opening character table...
...is now flawed. Kathy Bates has now been cast as a Season 3 co-star and deserves adding to the table, only she fails the standards set by the table's designer, according to the hidden editors' note. This is why you shouldn't put carts before horses and assume all actors will be re-cast and no others will join. Bates has been courted to be in the show since Season One. — Wyliepedia 07:07, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Page split
As a major contributor from Day One, I'm going ahead and suggesting a page split at the end of Season 3. This article is borderline splitable anyway and Season 3's info, I'm sure, will push it over the edge. This page was created before we knew it would be a serial format with different characters each season and will become unwieldy in 2014. — Wyliepedia 07:23, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Mother Superior Claudia
She was a supporting character in Season 2. I wish someone could add her into this page.
Marie and Queenie
Shouldn't Marie and Queenie not be bolded on the character table, as they were supporting characters? I've asked here in case there was a discussion regarding it already, instead of just changing it.--SnowyNight1234 (talk) 18:23, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
-- I agree. They were both main characters, and the introduction on the page implies they are both main characters. So was Nan, in fact. Changing it now. --Stevehim (talk) 06:49, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
Orphaned references in List of American Horror Story characters
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of American Horror Story characters's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "EOnline":
- From Denis O'Hare: http://au.eonline.com/news/524361/the-american-horror-story-season-4-title-is?cmpid=sn-111021-facebook-na-eonline
- From Evan Peters: "The American Horror Story Season 4 Title Revealed! Plus, New Details on the Setting, Cast and Jessica Lange's Character". E!Online. March 24, 2014.
- From American Horror Story: Freak Show: Aguilera, Leanne (March 24, 2014). "NEWS/ The American Horror Story Season 4 Title Revealed! Plus, New Details on the Setting, Cast and Jessica Lange's Character". E! Online. Retrieved August 27, 2014.
- From Frances Conroy: The American Horror Story Season 4 Title Revealed! Plus, New Details on the Setting, Cast and Jessica Lange's Character | E! Online UK
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 22:52, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
How do we treat Bette and Dot Tattler?
They are technically one character that happens to have two heads considering that we have one article for Abigail and Brittany Hensel who have almost the exact same condition as the characters on this show, I honestly think we should treat them as one character completely.--Jack Cox (talk) 23:35, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Correction: they are technically two characters that happen to have one body. Hence, why they are able to talk to each other.Cebr1979 (talk) 09:01, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Jamie Brewer
Why was Jamie Brewer, who played Adelaide Langdon, Nan and an unknown role in Season 4, removied from the cast table??? Poroboros (talk) 15:53, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Order of characters
Is there any method to this? Some of the sections seem strange (eg - Jessica Lange being toward the middle/bottom of Coven, when she was as main a character as anyone in the show). --Stevehim (talk) 06:58, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
It's time to make Pepper a supporting character instead of a minor character
after tonight's episode, it's pretty obvious she belongs there. Distortiondude (talk) 05:40, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Plan to remove the lead/supporting/minor character bolding and italics
I plan on removing all of this if nobody has a problem with it. It's really not necessary to list what each individual role was and it only causes edit wars back and forth every day. I'm not removing the tables, just the bolding and italics thing we have going on. Objections? Gloss 17:04, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Why isn't Pepper featured in the Freak Show character list?
I noticed that Pepper is only featured on the Asylum character list, while on the the Freak Show list she is not there. She is a character of both seasons, with different (but connected) stories, so which is why I think she should be featured in both seasons character lists. --GleekRicky98a (talk) 00:14, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Cast members section
I've noticed that I've received some pushback to the changes I've been making in this department, but I think many of them are unwarranted. A few editors have reverted my reordering of the cast members by who appeared first, and have instead opted for who has appeared the most. For instance, since she was the first person to appear in the credits, MOS:TVCAST dictates that Connie Britton should be the first person listed here, and yet she isn't found for 13 places. As far as I can tell, the "Cast and characters" section on The Walking Dead has it down perfectly: first to appear in opening credits, then those who appeared as recurring characters who later became main characters. I have made a mock-up version of what the cast list will look like (with assumed Hotel cast members that I will happily remove if implemented) that you can find here: User:Sock/American Horror Story cast. Sock (tock talk) 17:27, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
- I understand that for most TV series that would work perfectly. However, since American Horror Story is an anthology series, it is best to keep the actors who have appeared the most at the top of the list as they are most prominent to the series. Also, since most of the actors have played multiple roles throughout the series, it is best to keep the character roles in the table as well. I think that your set-up will work if American Horror Story continues on for many more years Nd the table becomes too cluttered with all of the names. However, at this point in time, the current set-up is perfectly fine. Thank you so much for contributions! User:Kworbi —Preceding undated comment added 04:36, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Moira O'Hara
This may be a silly suggestion, but shouldn't the table clearly state that Frances Conroy plays Old Moira and Alexandra Breckenridge plays Young Moira? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.237.138 (talk) 17:29, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
This article is far too long
Please split This is at browser-breaking length. It's sensible to split it into lists by season and make this a disambiguation page. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:17, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
- I believe it is fine the way it is, but am open to splitting. Characters have their section linked on the seasons page and when clicked it jumps straight to that character. I don't see the harm in going through and removing trivial information that is of no use to the page and see if that cuts it down a bit Brocicle (talk) 04:11, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
- Would be a lot of work, but I do agree with a split. This is only going to get longer as more characters are introduced to a series with no signs of slowing down anytime soon. Gloss 18:47, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
- So are we going ahead with the spilt? More than happy to get the ball rolling if so. Brocicle (talk) 01:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- With a sixth and a possible seventh season confirmed, I agree that a split is necessary. If not split then a huge toning down of the character descriptions. They are sometimes too In-universe and not a general description. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 15:34, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Seeing as majority is in favour of splitting I went ahead and created the first season's character article. Please modify where necessary and and begin on the remaining seasons and turn this page into a disambiguation page. Brocicle (talk) 02:52, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
- Alright I made one for the second season. Imma* start working on the latter three and make this a disambiguation page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louisgleason (talk • contribs) 00:32, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think this should completely be a disambiguation page, for the sections on characters who reappear in different seasons, and definitely the chart of actors who have been on the show are helpful, given that those sections are where the series overlap. But I think as long as those key sections remain, the rest can just be links to the individual pages.ThomasM123 (talk) 20:33, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
- Alright I made one for the second season. Imma* start working on the latter three and make this a disambiguation page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louisgleason (talk • contribs) 00:32, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- Seeing as majority is in favour of splitting I went ahead and created the first season's character article. Please modify where necessary and and begin on the remaining seasons and turn this page into a disambiguation page. Brocicle (talk) 02:52, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
- With a sixth and a possible seventh season confirmed, I agree that a split is necessary. If not split then a huge toning down of the character descriptions. They are sometimes too In-universe and not a general description. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 15:34, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- So are we going ahead with the spilt? More than happy to get the ball rolling if so. Brocicle (talk) 01:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Would be a lot of work, but I do agree with a split. This is only going to get longer as more characters are introduced to a series with no signs of slowing down anytime soon. Gloss 18:47, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Can people please stop adding character names for season 6.
There have been no character names confirmed for season 6, can people please stop adding them in. Leaked callsheets and fan rumours are NOT reputable sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YellowingMellowing (talk • contribs) 21:22, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
Can somebody lock this article until the premier. Silly people continue to add silly fan-made names that have not been confirmed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YellowingMellowing (talk • contribs) 11:01, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
This page should be locked.
There are far to many people adding fake information about the names of characters. They have been warned twice and continue to do so. I don't know if this should result in a block, but the page needs to be locked, so wishful thinkers can not spew their inner most fandom thoughts as facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.51.129.222 (talk) 21:00, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
- I agree Changeisgame (talk) 19:48, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Notes on characters in more than one season
So where it lists the main characters, it just has a short bulleted list of the characters in that season, but I was thinking what if we added notes to the characters in more than one season, so the Murder House section would look like:
Main characters
- Vivien Harmon (Connie Britton)
- Ben Harmon (Dylan McDermott)
- Tate Langdon (Evan Peters)
- Violet Harmon (Taissa Farmiga)
- Larry Harvey (Denis O'Hare)
- Constance Langdon (Jessica Lange)
Special guest stars
- Hayden McClaine (Kate Mara)
- Chad Warwick (Zachary Quinto)
- Det. Granger (Charles S. Dutton)
- Derek (Eric Stonestreet)
Other
- Billie Dean Howard (Sarah Paulson) later appeared in Hotel.
- Dr. Charles Montgomery (Matt Ross) later appeared in Hotel.
- Marcy (Christine Estabrook) later appeared in Hotel.
For Asylum it would be:
Main characters
- Dr. Oliver Thredson (Zachary Quinto)
- Monsignor Timothy Howard (Joseph Fiennes)
- Lana Winters (Sarah Paulson) later appeared in Roanoke.
- Kit Walker (Evan Peters)
- Sister Mary Eunice McKee (Lily Rabe) later appeared in Freak Show.
- Grace Bertrand (Lizzie Brocheré)
- Dr. Arthur Arden (James Cromwell) later appeard in Freak Show (as Hans Gruber).
- Sister Jude Martin (Jessica Lange)
Special guest stars
- Shelley (Chloë Sevigny)
- Leigh Emerson (Ian McShane)
Other
- Pepper (Naomi Grossman) later appeared in Freak Show.
And lastly for Coven it would be:
Main characters
- Cordelia Foxx (Sarah Paulson)
- Zoe Benson (Taissa Farmiga)
- Myrtle Snow (Frances Conroy)
- Kyle Spencer (Evan Peters)
- Misty Day (Lily Rabe)
- Madison Montgomery (Emma Roberts)
- Spalding (Denis O'Hare)
- Delphine LaLaurie (Kathy Bates)
- Fiona Goode (Jessica Lange)
Special guest stars
- Marie Laveau (Angela Bassett)
- Queenie (Gabourey Sidibe) later appeared in Hotel.
- The Axeman (Danny Huston)
- Joan Ramsey (Patti LuPone)
- Stevie Nicks (Stevie Nicks)
Warning of 2017
While checking the character page I noticed the table had a section added for 2017 claiming the title Ship Wrecked and already giving Lady Gaga a role as Siren. After even the LIGHTEST of searches can confirm coupled with the lack of citation there is no fact that this information is valid. So be warned that anything posted for 2017 is at best speculative and at worst an out right lie.
I agree with the previous discussion that the page should be locked to prevent the spread of misinformation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.69.55.254 (talk) 08:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- On at least two separate occasions, information has been added to this article that identifies Season 7's subtitle as "Hollywood," and provides complete character lists. As far as I can tell, this information is invented; I can find no reliable source or even non-reliable corroboration. I am not quite expert enough in wikitables to delete all this unsourced info, so I changed unsourced character names in the tables to "TBA." If anyone is able to fully delete the entries, I'd appreciate it. I did delete the Season 7 section, though. I should probably try to go back and find the sourced cast list, if there ever was one. Or anyone else should feel free to do this. --DavidK93 (talk) 15:01, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Billie Lourd / Billy Eichner
Billie Lourd is a main cast member, I've added her, but Billy Eichner's role size has NOT been revealed. He could be a recurring character or a special guest star so please do not add him yet. Billie Lourd has been confirmed as a lead, which is why she has been added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmericanaAmericana (talk • contribs) 18:15, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- @AmericanaAmericana: Ready.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 20:25, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Concerning Billy's evolvement, here is a reference that states he will be a strong recurring character in the season >> http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/billy-eichner-american-horror-story-season-7-1202017831/ And why are Billy and Lourd not referenced at the top. Lourd is a lead, as are Paulson and Peters, so therefore that detail should be referenced in the charts(add the green cover). I understand Billy's mess up but maybe we should add him in the recurring section. But then again he could also be changed to a special guest star considering he has a big recurring slot. The upcoming cast is unnecessary just add them in the charts... Changeisgame (talk) 23:43, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Upcoming cast
A separate section has been created where you can add the next actors to join the series, as you can see here. This was because it was first said that Billy Eichner would be part of the main cast, which turned out to be false, so we can not know if Billie Lourd later could change to simply being a recurring actress or guest, it would be best to wait, Wikipedia It is not a crystal ball, who knows if later changes are made?. It would be best to wait until there is something more concrete.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 00:00, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- This is literally so extra. There have been multiple outlets that have reported news on the three leads. This is how be have always labeled before the season. It's perfectly fine to add. Changeisgame (talk) 00:11, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Maybe a vote on this silly matter? Since we can't come to terms?? I guess I will go that far if I have too... So silly Changeisgame (talk) 00:11, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- And a note on your statement. If it turns out that Lourd, Paulson, or Peters are not main characters, even though it has been reported multiple times that they will be, changes will be made according. Simple right? Changeisgame (talk) 00:16, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Sort of funny how I suggest things and then you go and report me. Why don't you send this to so they see that I've tried to come to terms with you.. Talk about selective Changeisgame (talk) 00:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 01:00, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Do you know what a source is? Changeisgame (talk) 01:30, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 01:00, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Sort of funny how I suggest things and then you go and report me. Why don't you send this to so they see that I've tried to come to terms with you.. Talk about selective Changeisgame (talk) 00:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- There may be thirty thousand sources, but it is still speculative.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 01:39, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Then what is the point of Wikipedia or sources? As I understand a source is way to back up to support what you have added. Without them the site wouldn't be anything. I just do not completely understand what your issue is with my edits on this page. I have provided multiple sources. If you go on the main American Horror Story page on this wiki you will find everything that I have stated in the season seven paragraph; no one else is free reverting that and that page is far more popular than this one. It's not my problem or this pages if you can't rely on them. You even agreed to add the green backdrop on Paulson and Peter's character and then you reverted back to white and then took Lourd and Billy off again. As of right now myself and the other user involved in the discussion above seem to agree that the Lourd belongs on the chart, 2:1. Changeisgame (talk) 02:07, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- What you do not understand, is that from here to that the series is released can happen many things, perhaps the actors resign or not, who knows, has already happened in other series before. It happens that sometimes they confirm something, but then they totally deny it, would not it be better to wait?, I do not understand what your despair, clearly added a new section to add the upcoming actors to join the cast. Is it very difficult to understand that?, we will not even know if there will be an opening theme for season 7, so it seems irrelevant to me to add actors to the main cast, when that section is organized according to the opening credits.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 02:23, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- 1) The character chart is not completely organized according to opening credits. New actors are added whenever they add to the main cast. So actors like Sevigny and Conroy are not chronologically in order to which the appeared. The actors have "signed on" for season 7. Which means they are legally held to the show. I highly doubt any will totally abandon the show since they all have such close relations with Murphy and the show its self. What if seems to be what you live on. Facts were provided and they need to be displayed on this page. It will not hurt anything, the only with that will hurt would be withholding the information. If a reliable source is added then-then it should be able to say up. I haven't seen any reports that say Peters, Paulson, or Lourd will recur. But, I do understand your issue with Billy Eichner, since reports have said both main and recurring. So with that, I agree we should not "guess" with his character involvement of the season. What you did worked then with the "upcoming cast", but Lourd does not belong there or any new actors that come up within the upcoming months. They should only be put there if we do not know or if reports vary among sources. Thanks for reporting me. I totally can not compromise. Have a great day Changeisgame (talk) 11:24, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- As I said before, the section of the main cast, is not to add the upcoming actors to join the cast, because it is organized according to the credits of the series, and since I have not seen any opening theme of the season 7 where Billie Lourd appears, or if ?, a source says it does not mean anything, who knows if within two days or more someone is confirmed as part of the main cast?, then we must be guided by all speculations that may exist?. What I mean is that as long as there is no opening theme or Season 7 is released, it is best to keep the new cast in the upcoming cast section.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 15:32, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Um, excuse me? We never agreed on how to handle this issue, so why are you changing everything according to your personal opinion. This site deserves the best and most updated information. Just because you have doubts does not mean we can't add the information. You have been noncompliant and have refused to take multiple sources into consideration. Plus, your recent argument does not even make sense. When Billie Lourd appears in the credits on season 7 it does not matter what place she takes. She will still be on the bottom on the chart regardless. The only option would be if a new actor is added and appears before her. And if that happens the page will be updated accordingly. Please undo your edit, a decision was never made... Changeisgame (talk) 20:55, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- Well I remember your decision was not approved, I do not really understand what is your desperation to add to that actress in the main cast, okay, will be part of the main cast, but it is better to wait, for something is the section "upcoming cast" , And when Season 7 is released the cast will be organized due to the credits.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 21:46, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- Um, excuse me? We never agreed on how to handle this issue, so why are you changing everything according to your personal opinion. This site deserves the best and most updated information. Just because you have doubts does not mean we can't add the information. You have been noncompliant and have refused to take multiple sources into consideration. Plus, your recent argument does not even make sense. When Billie Lourd appears in the credits on season 7 it does not matter what place she takes. She will still be on the bottom on the chart regardless. The only option would be if a new actor is added and appears before her. And if that happens the page will be updated accordingly. Please undo your edit, a decision was never made... Changeisgame (talk) 20:55, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- As I said before, the section of the main cast, is not to add the upcoming actors to join the cast, because it is organized according to the credits of the series, and since I have not seen any opening theme of the season 7 where Billie Lourd appears, or if ?, a source says it does not mean anything, who knows if within two days or more someone is confirmed as part of the main cast?, then we must be guided by all speculations that may exist?. What I mean is that as long as there is no opening theme or Season 7 is released, it is best to keep the new cast in the upcoming cast section.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 15:32, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- 1) The character chart is not completely organized according to opening credits. New actors are added whenever they add to the main cast. So actors like Sevigny and Conroy are not chronologically in order to which the appeared. The actors have "signed on" for season 7. Which means they are legally held to the show. I highly doubt any will totally abandon the show since they all have such close relations with Murphy and the show its self. What if seems to be what you live on. Facts were provided and they need to be displayed on this page. It will not hurt anything, the only with that will hurt would be withholding the information. If a reliable source is added then-then it should be able to say up. I haven't seen any reports that say Peters, Paulson, or Lourd will recur. But, I do understand your issue with Billy Eichner, since reports have said both main and recurring. So with that, I agree we should not "guess" with his character involvement of the season. What you did worked then with the "upcoming cast", but Lourd does not belong there or any new actors that come up within the upcoming months. They should only be put there if we do not know or if reports vary among sources. Thanks for reporting me. I totally can not compromise. Have a great day Changeisgame (talk) 11:24, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- What you do not understand, is that from here to that the series is released can happen many things, perhaps the actors resign or not, who knows, has already happened in other series before. It happens that sometimes they confirm something, but then they totally deny it, would not it be better to wait?, I do not understand what your despair, clearly added a new section to add the upcoming actors to join the cast. Is it very difficult to understand that?, we will not even know if there will be an opening theme for season 7, so it seems irrelevant to me to add actors to the main cast, when that section is organized according to the opening credits.--Philip J Fry Talk to me 02:23, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Then what is the point of Wikipedia or sources? As I understand a source is way to back up to support what you have added. Without them the site wouldn't be anything. I just do not completely understand what your issue is with my edits on this page. I have provided multiple sources. If you go on the main American Horror Story page on this wiki you will find everything that I have stated in the season seven paragraph; no one else is free reverting that and that page is far more popular than this one. It's not my problem or this pages if you can't rely on them. You even agreed to add the green backdrop on Paulson and Peter's character and then you reverted back to white and then took Lourd and Billy off again. As of right now myself and the other user involved in the discussion above seem to agree that the Lourd belongs on the chart, 2:1. Changeisgame (talk) 02:07, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- And a note on your statement. If it turns out that Lourd, Paulson, or Peters are not main characters, even though it has been reported multiple times that they will be, changes will be made according. Simple right? Changeisgame (talk) 00:16, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Maybe a vote on this silly matter? Since we can't come to terms?? I guess I will go that far if I have too... So silly Changeisgame (talk) 00:11, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Protected edit request on 14 April 2017
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In section "Cast members", in subheading "Recurring": link to Matt Ross should be disambiguated to [[Matt Ross (actor)|Matt Ross]] PKT(alk) 00:10, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
Stupid fake cast names for AHS Cult
Please stop adding dumb fan names like "Natalie Raven" for American Horror Story: Cult. Someone keeps adding them and citing the sources as tweets confirming actor involvement. Ryan Murphy tweeting that Frances Conroy will appear is NOT confirmation that her character is named "Natalie Raven". The name is just dumb and fanficcy. Thanks Secretstheweeknd (talk) 10:32, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
- Happened all the time last year with Roanoke (then ?6). It was unbelieved what people came up with. Thankfully it hasn't been that crazy this year. Never clicked 'undo' as many times in my life last year. Changeisgame (talk) 22:46, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Unconfirmed credit roles for "Cult"
As you all know, five character portraits were released on the Cult website last week. However, it is still unknown if these actors/actresses will play major parts in the upcoming season. Until a title sequence releases or an official statement is provided, their corresponding slots should remain colorless. I added a new (temporary) section for the new cast. This, of course, will be removed when the season airs or an announcement is made. If any more new cast is announced, add their name to the section. Start a discussion if you disagree. Changeisgame (talk) 22:41, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Readjusting the Cast Table
I propose that the cast table should be readjusted back to the previous system. An example would be like this : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_American_Horror_Story_cast_members&oldid=852364382 because it is much cleaner and systematic. The previous format (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_American_Horror_Story_cast_members&oldid=852365306) which is currently being used is way messier, and using too much note citation in the character list. This version was actually in-use previously before it was changed drastically by another user. Not sure if there was ever a discussion for that change anyway.
A user states that the proposed version : may confuse the reader, e.g., Paulson *starred* in Cult as Ally, and made a *guest appearance* as a Manson family member — yet, our readers wouldn’t know that because both characters are equally emphasised. This is wrong as Paulson starred as both Ally and as a Manson family member. She did not get separate billing, Paulson is still Main regardless of which character she played. Only Evan Peters (Cult) would need a note citation cause he played over 5-6 characters, and is not enough to fit the table.
175.142.24.121 (talk) 14:54, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, I think you're absolutely right, especially considering that when Billy Eichner appeared as Tex Watson for example, he was credited the same way as he was for Harrison. I also believe by following your suggestion, we will stop violating WP:OUTUNIVERSE. Thanks for the suggestion. TedEdwards 13:31, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
Jessica Lange confirmed
Jessica Lange's return and some of character's names have been confirmed in the Panel.
Alphabetical
I am putting the main cast in aplhabetical order. If you fucking touch them I will be FURIOUS. Don't try me. Magicladasha (talk) 13:33, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Magicladasha: I'll just say you do not own the article, so any edit you make must be based on consensus, and not threatening editors to make them abide by what you want. TedEdwards 14:16, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- Did you not READ what I f*cking said? Conversely, YOU DON'T OWN THIS ARTICLE EITHER. I have reverted your error. Don't make the same mistake again. Have a nice day now :) Magicladasha (talk) 14:21, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- And your edit breaches MOS:TVCAST where it says
The cast listing should be ordered according to the original broadcast credits, with new cast members being added to the end of the list.
Also, I'm not the one threatening editors to do what I want. TedEdwards 14:23, 8 August 2018 (UTC)- I don't give two flying f*cks what that says. It looks better alphabetized. Stop reverting my edits. Magicladasha (talk) 14:25, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Magicladasha: if you do not speak to other editors civilly, you'll find that your time on Wikipedia could be cut short. TedEdwards disagreed with your change, so do I; the onus is on you to discuss your edits and explain why you believe they should be made. But only do so if you're going to address other editors respectfully. Thanks, —MelbourneStar☆talk 14:25, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- I am reverting the edits because it LOOKS BETTER. I will be civil but please stop arranging it by Connie Britton first and Alison Pill last. It should be Angela Bassett first and Finn Wittrock last with everyone, including new additions such as Joan Collins or Ash Santos, being inserted alphabetically. Don't undo my edits again. Magicladasha (talk) 14:28, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- I see you have left my edits, the CORRECT edits, in tact. I'm glad you've learned your lesson with me. Don't cross me again and we'll get along like apple pie. Magicladasha (talk) 14:33, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- Generally when you discuss an edit, you leave it as the WP:STATUSQUO, not revert it back to how you want it. Anyway, I don't support this edit as it violates MOS:TVCAST, which is a guideline which should be followed except in exceptional circumstances. And whether it looks better is a personal opinion. And what would you do if someone reverted you're edits again? TedEdwards 14:39, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- And you're not being civil by threatening me to
not cross you again
. And why are you're editscorrect
? TedEdwards 14:44, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- And you're not being civil by threatening me to
- Generally when you discuss an edit, you leave it as the WP:STATUSQUO, not revert it back to how you want it. Anyway, I don't support this edit as it violates MOS:TVCAST, which is a guideline which should be followed except in exceptional circumstances. And whether it looks better is a personal opinion. And what would you do if someone reverted you're edits again? TedEdwards 14:39, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- I see you have left my edits, the CORRECT edits, in tact. I'm glad you've learned your lesson with me. Don't cross me again and we'll get along like apple pie. Magicladasha (talk) 14:33, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- I am reverting the edits because it LOOKS BETTER. I will be civil but please stop arranging it by Connie Britton first and Alison Pill last. It should be Angela Bassett first and Finn Wittrock last with everyone, including new additions such as Joan Collins or Ash Santos, being inserted alphabetically. Don't undo my edits again. Magicladasha (talk) 14:28, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Magicladasha: if you do not speak to other editors civilly, you'll find that your time on Wikipedia could be cut short. TedEdwards disagreed with your change, so do I; the onus is on you to discuss your edits and explain why you believe they should be made. But only do so if you're going to address other editors respectfully. Thanks, —MelbourneStar☆talk 14:25, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- I don't give two flying f*cks what that says. It looks better alphabetized. Stop reverting my edits. Magicladasha (talk) 14:25, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
- And your edit breaches MOS:TVCAST where it says
- Did you not READ what I f*cking said? Conversely, YOU DON'T OWN THIS ARTICLE EITHER. I have reverted your error. Don't make the same mistake again. Have a nice day now :) Magicladasha (talk) 14:21, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Violet Harmon
May I ask why my addition that Taissa Farmiga will play Violet Harmon was removed? Entertainment Weekly has confirmed it, and I sourced it accordingly. Magicladasha (talk) 18:12, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Magicladasha: Thank you for starting this thread. The reason why I reverted your good faith edit is that in the source it says
EW has learned exclusively...
. This shows, particularly the word "exclusively", that an official announcement has not be made by FX/Ryan Murphy/an actor in AHS, and therefore the veracity of EW's claim is indeterminable, as you can't tell where they are getting their infomation from. The source also appears to make an assumption that Britton and McDermott are playing the Harmon's, even though that has not been confirmed. Generally, if a fact is officially announced, several sources report it (although you only need to cite one). Lady Junky I thought you might want to see this as well, as judging by your edit summary on American Horror Story: Apocalypse, you don't quite understand why I reverted your edit there. TedEdwards 18:44, 24 August 2018 (UTC)- So, basically, if EW did not use "learned exclusively", the source would have been okay to use? o.o Lady Junky (talk) 19:46, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- Possibly, but in most cases if the information given is true and verified, several sources mention it, not just one. But yes, "learned exclusively" was a giveaway that the information given was not verified. TedEdwards 21:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- Ryan Murphy has just posted a picture of Taissa as Violet on Instagram and confirmed her return in the caption. I have duly added her. Magicladasha (talk) 19:09, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- Possibly, but in most cases if the information given is true and verified, several sources mention it, not just one. But yes, "learned exclusively" was a giveaway that the information given was not verified. TedEdwards 21:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- So, basically, if EW did not use "learned exclusively", the source would have been okay to use? o.o Lady Junky (talk) 19:46, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 September 2018
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The articles second sentence reads "Described as an anthology series..." with a request By Whom? request (or unsupported attributions) attached to it. Below is a citation from the main American Horror Story article that links to director/producer Ryan Murphy's take on the series' anthology format, which should satisfy the reference request.
[1] 2600:1700:E890:B7E0:8C36:88BB:B42F:2FA6 (talk) 23:55, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Not done Sadly, the source does not use the word "anthology", so can't be used. However, if you find a source like this that uses the word anthology explicitly, give me a shout or reactivate the edit request. Thank you anyway. TedEdwards 20:39, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Colors
I think that colors for starring and special guest stars are too similar and it's hard to distinguish them. Maybe one of them should be changed? Or are these the Wikipedia standards? King10 (talk) 12:51, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- I found those standards. Maybe Template:CAlso starring would be better for special guest stars? King10 (talk) 12:52, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
Table Positioning
Can I know why Henry G. Sanders, Chaz Bono, and Erika Ervin’s section in the Guest Staring table lower?
G. Sanders first appeared in the second season, but he is placed among those first appeared in the fifth season.
Chaz Bono first appeared in the sixth season, but he is placed among those first appeared in the seventh season.
Erika Ervin first appeared in the forth season, but she is placed among those first appeared in the eight season.
Whether they had a major or minor guest starring role, they should be arranged in when they first appeared in the series.
115.135.203.81 (talk) 09:47, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
- We only include in the table the actors whose names appear as "Guest Starring" shortly after the opening credits and not in the end credits (in the case of Roanoke the "Guest starring" actors are the ones that appear over the AHS theme music rather than the other music in the credits) otherwise there are too many names. In the three cases you highlighted, in their first season, they only appeared in the end credits, so wouldn't appear in this table because of that. However in their second season, they did appear after the opening credits, so this means they go in the table. But rather than being credited next to the actors who first "guest starred" in their first season, where they didn't guest star, they appear next to the actors who first "guest starred" in their second season. Hope this makes sense TedEdwards 11:32, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
- If that’s the case, colour coding should somehow be changed, cause the end credits is actually Co-Starring, if I’m not wrong, not guest starring. Adding the pink colour to the table makes it seems like it is not organised properly. To someone like me, who does not pay attention to which names appear immediately after the opening credits or during the end credits, I would immediately assume that the characters were Guest Starring since the table places them as it is when they were actually Co-Starring. Also, it is wrong to use the pink colour coding for those characters played by them as co-starring. 115.135.203.81 (talk) 12:22, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
- ^ Mullins, Jenna (December 22, 2011). "American Horror Story Season Two Scoop: New House and (Mostly) New Faces". E! Online. NBCUniversal. Retrieved November 12, 2015.