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Text updated; categories added, thus unprofessional and unhelpful PROD notice rv. Maybe some advice might help on how to make the list better or more of value rather than the obnoxious comments. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 01:25, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Section in Lead

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Hello all. First, nice job getting this list off the ground. Now contains some useful, cited info. However, the last para in the lead, pertaining to fraud and maiden names, seems off-topic to me. It's about maiden names, but not about people who change their name to their mother's maiden name. It really sticks out for me. Orlady, could you justify its inclusion here? (I think it was your edit)The Interior (Talk) 18:21, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's included here in relation to the common practice of using a mother's maiden name to form a stage name -- specifically, it's about a demonstration of how that phenomenon could be exploited for purposes of identity theft.

Side point: I did not find anything else in Wikipedia on the topic of the information that financial institutions and other entities use for identification purposes. (I was hoping to link to another article that discussed the use of mother's maiden name for identification, but I did not find anything to link to.) Apparently that practice goes back more than a century, based on this 1906 article in Banking Law Journal. I was also interested to see a remark in the 1983 (i.e., pre-Internet) book Language and the Sexes saying that most people know their mother's maiden names, "but that knowledge is restricted enough that banks use it as a check on identification."[1] --Orlady (talk) 21:00, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wow! Thanks to User:E. Fokker for finding and linking to the article about the use of "mother's maiden name" and similar information in identification -- it turns out it's Security question. I've added to that article -- and inserted it in one of the categories where I had looked unsuccessfully for this topic (in addition to searching). That's the kind of serendipitous and asynchronous collaboration that builds good Wikipedia content. --Orlady (talk) 23:29, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose it does have relevance to the stage name concept. It just seems a bit anecdotal to me for a lead, but I guess in a list, this really isn't the lead. It is indeed nice to see several editors teaming up on this. Sometimes positive results can come from an AfD! The Interior (Talk) 23:37, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Getting this ready for DYK

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Hey all. A proposal for getting this up to DYK level: Let's start a section here for all the [citation needed] entries, then they can be added to the list as they are referenced. What say? The Interior (Talk) 18:34, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've been working on sourcing these entries. I've deleted some entries that I determined were invalid. Where I simply can't find a source, I am converting the entries to hidden comments in the article. There are only a few names left in the article needing to be resolved -- additional researchers are welcome! --Orlady (talk) 04:29, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, sourcing them all is a far better option. Kudos. The Interior (Talk) 05:50, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The list is fully sourced, at least for now. --Orlady (talk) 06:50, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Phillip

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Not quite sure on how to word this in the article. But his mothers maiden name was not Mountbatten - it was Battenberg. It was the Grandfather and others who later changed their name to Mountbatten. Prince Phillip then also choose the English version of his mothers maiden name when making house in with Liz. Agathoclea (talk) 10:46, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Elvis Costello

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Costello rv as inaccurate. His mother's maiden name was not Costello. According to article "Costello adopted the stage name D.P. Costello. His father had performed under the name Day Costello, and Elvis has said in interviews that he took this name as a tribute to his father...". Too bad DYK was inaccurate. Quis separabit? 00:12, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 13 May 2016

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved. Uncontroversial, the current name is just innacurate. A matronymic is a name based on mother's given name, not surname.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:21, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]


List of people who adopted matronymic surnames → List of people who adopted matrilineal surnames – wikt:matrilineal: Tracing descent only through female lines. See Matrilineal surname (Matriname). wikt:matronymic: A surname or byname acquired from the given name of one's mother's or from a female ancestor's given name. See Matronymic surname. – wbm1058 (talk) 22:02, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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