Talk:Lorena Bernal

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False Biography[edit]

soy de tucumán argentina : its date of birth is 1981.

Doble nacionalidad[edit]

Text in Spanish not directed to article improvement

Esto va para los españoles que tratan de "sudacas" a los argentinos y argentinas siempre y cuando esos "sudacas" no les signifiquen honores (ahora los argentinos descubrimos que Lionel Messi "es español también"), cuando los "sudacas" les significan un honor o una ganancia ya los "españolizan" (eso es vergonzante). Chavales: Lorena bernal ES ARGENTINA SEGUN TODAS LAS LEYES; ya que por tratados de reciprocidad existentes entre Argentina y España un argentino puede tener las dos ciudadanias o nacionalidades y es precisamente lo que ocurre con la tucumana Lorena Bernal. Nunca un nacido en Argentina pierde la ciudadania argentina, por ejemplo si en estos momentos quiere Lorena Bernal puede retornar a Argentina sin presentar pasaporte y puede votar a presidentes etc, sencillamente porque es argentina; que para quedarse en España se haya visto forzada a ser "española" es otra historia que jamás puede ir contra la legislacion internacional. ¿entendido? ¿PUEDEN entender españoles?? (no les doy mis saludos porque la actitud española para con la inmensa mayoria de los argentinos y argentinas es francamente repugnante por lo xenofoba). --186.18.73.77 (talk) 08:28, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Many misleading mistakes![edit]

She is born in 1981. Her eyes are truly Blue-Green. Her height is truly 5'8". This is all on her IMDB page. Where people cannot lie cause they feel like it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.69.50 (talk) 09:25, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


Disputed BLP[edit]

Her age and other vital statistics are disputed. There are websites listing 1981 and others 1977, none of which are WP:RS. Please find WP:RS and provide refs for these. IMDB can not be used (see guideline). Widefox (talk) 08:15, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Due to an edit I saw, I looked into this. There does not appear to be any definitive answer among reliable sources on the net (of which there are few). However, I found several sources that claim she was not able to go to the Miss Universe competition in 1999 because she was only 17, which would corroborate the 1981 birth date: [1] [2] [3]. Unfortunately, it turns out these all use the same text that's in our Miss Universe 1999 article, which has no references. So I'm still stumped, but the story about the pageant seems to be the most compelling thing I've seen. —Kerfuffler 17:06, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

She was barely 18 when she won Miss Spain in 1999. Do the math. 1999 minus 1981! She would have been able to compete in Miss World had she been 18. As far as her colouring, how can every single photo be disputed, how can her modeling agencies be disputed, call Freixenet, call Pepe London, call all her agents & producers & other companies she has worked with. Why would they lie about this? & If it was a lie, why would it not be common knowledge by now? 6 billion people, she has worked with many, someone would have spilled her eyes are unchanged in over 10 years of modeling images & television & film appearances! As far as her height, she Is 5'8", as her husband is 5'9" & she only towers above him when in heels, when in flats, she is just slightly shorter then he. So for her to be much shorter as you & others state, He would also have to be lying about his own height & all of the people he works with would have to conspire to keep his shameful secret. Honestly, what purpose does it serve you & the other liars on here, to lie about her, her age, her colouring, her shape & her size? Do you have nothing better to do? You should think about your own body size instead. Leave her alone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.69.50 (talk) 09:22, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

The only one of these things I've researched is her age. See my comments above—specifically, that the references I found about her age in 1999 seemed to all be copied from our own Miss Universe 1999 article. Such circular references to Wikipedia are not allowed as reliable sources. I was unable to find a definitive source for either date in my research. —Kerfuffler  horsemeat
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09:28, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, Miss Universe 1999! she competed in Miss World 1999 instead, due to her teenaged age she could not compete in Miss Universe 1999, is what I meant to say here, above. Oh the madness! I tell ya. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.69.50 (talk) 09:29, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Are you purposely trying to make her look bad!?[edit]

Her eyes are blue green, Every photo in existence of her shows this. You can't wear contacts everyday for 30 years! You're also lying about her height, and age! IMDB is pro website, why would they misinform? Also for Miss Spain, she had just turned 18. Also not allowing photo's of her on here, only goes to prove you are trying to hide the truth from people about what she looks like. Which is fine, every other site in the World shows photos of her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.186.69.50 (talk) 09:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

While I mostly agree, I should point out that IMDb is not considered a particularly reliable source for Wikipedia, because it's unclear what their standards for sourcing information are, and sometimes it actually comes from Wikipedia (and thus you could be reinforcing a mistake). It's too bad Trump killed the old Miss España site, because there was a mention of her age there (still in Google cache), and I would consider that more reliable than most. —Kerfuffler  harass
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09:31, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
i have removed all reference to birth date since it has been contested and there is no reliable source given. IMDB is NEVER acceptable source for personal information and the Yahoo link just goes to a general newsfeed with no information about this person. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:11, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

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