Talk:Miss Iceland

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For right Icelandic names[edit]

and in case of additions: http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ungfr%C3%BA_%C3%8Dsland — Preceding unsigned comment added by Comp.arch (talk • contribs) 10:41, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Geraldshields11 (talk) 17:05, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

English Wikipedia[edit]

Icelandic characters need to be translated. "Þórðardóttir" is pretty much nonsense to English speakers. --Tysto (talk) 00:41, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point, Tysto (you may however clarify*). This is however her/their name (the one they competed under in Miss Iceland). There is a hatnote explaining (may not have been there at the time of your complaint).

Counterproposal, if you must: transliterate in each case, .. Þórðardóttir (Thórdardóttir). Or dh, not d for ð. I believe that is done at target pages of each name (or could/should be done), but not all names have a target..

At say Miss Word, I would be more sympathetic too Thordardottir (Þórðardóttir), but would not prefer, because I believe abroad, Icelandic letter are not used (on TV).

* Is it only Þ (Th) you object to? I see that point. For ð (I think official transliteration is dh, that I've not really seen used, commonly d would be used), I think looks close enough to d to not confuse people. For ó, it's used in e.g. Spanish names and people do not(?) complain, at least understand. Too me, it looks bad to transliterate, but I'm conflicted on mixing. comp.arch (talk) 13:59, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

English Wikipedia--and I know this is going to sound crazy--should be readable by people who speak only English. That means no Þ or ð at the very least (English readers will just ignore accent marks on vowels). Just as Miss Japan's name is written in Japanese after the English version, so should be European names that use characters that are not found in English. --Tysto (talk) 02:34, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a little crazy :) The analogy with Icelandic that is a Latin-based alphabet went too far. [I think people would accept stylized USSя, or Mötley Crüe (that is meaningless, and also if it had a slightly different sound).] Miss Russia, yes, is unreadable to me, with exceptions, like "Anna Kruglova[1] Анна Круглова". Yes, I wouldn't know how to pronounce Анна, but can you Eyjafjallajökull (or Geyser vs geyser (an Icelandic loanword))?

I'm willing to go all the way on this (find the relevant WP policy or amend them; there is if I recall precedent in say Vietnamese for Đ, đ in Battle of Bạch Đằng River or Dogecoin vs. Icelandic ð). This [page], may not be most important per se, but the precedent for say (all also proper names) Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir (former prime minister of Iceland), Þorlákshöfn (you would not find your way in Iceland with Thorlákshofn]], so WP would be a disservice to you; several foreigners die of cold every other year in Iceland)), Þrándur í Götu (and this page, maybe not as appropriate on the Miss World-page, where transliteration may come first, maybe even the only spelling?).

There are pros and cons to both, with and w/o transliteration, you can do both. comp.arch (talk) 14:54, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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