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merge request[edit]

a less complete list of mobile app generators is at Multiple_phone_web_based_application_framework —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.105.145.69 (talk) 13:01, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

please add xmlvm and Ansca Corona[edit]

Untitled[edit]

devices using Palm 17:52, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

    • Very true. I wasn't sure how to work this to best keep a NPOV - for example, I know that Symbian is a lot harder to code in than J2ME, and I think everyone else would agree, but how to state that without using a non-NPOV? Very open to suggestions. Also, if it isn't a NPOV, but everyone agrees, is it ok? Benjaminhill 22:20, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Well, yes and no. I think it tries to fit way too many points in a small amount of area. It's very difficult to even see where to start. That said, I think the basic article concept is very good. -- Steven Fisher 23:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Mophun / Cibyl[edit]

Mophun (http://www.mophun.com) is another C-based development environment for mobile phones. The runtime environment was prepackaged in some older phones, but for more modern phones it has to be downloaded separately.

Also (and maybe this disqualifies me?), I'm developing the Cibyl (http://spel.bth.se/index.php/Cibyl) which is a C-based programming environment for J2ME devices which recompiles MIPS binaries into Java bytecode, and Lessphun (http://spel.bth.se/index.php/Lessphun) which is an implementation of the Mophun API for Cibyl. Both are GPL/LGPL free software.

SimonKagstrom 18:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Why were the external links deleted?[edit]

I am not sure


Where is the iPhone development section??[edit]

I am trying to learn more about the various mobile platforms, and the ommission of the iPhone os seems to be a glaring issue in today's market. Does anyone think they can fill in the section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kahalani (talkcontribs) 15:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

stariki 7:16, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

External links?[edit]

I don't know why the external links were deleted... any objections to to Mobile Development Info? I'm also going to add some iPhone and Android info...

Why ideal?[edit]

Ideal means that nothing is better. How do you judge this? Change or remove word 'ideal'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.254.142.186 (talk) 18:49, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

N-Gage[edit]

Isn't N-Gage NOW another mobile development platform? I see many Nokia phones with n-gae games. It should be included here... Maxtremus (talk) 16:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Rhodes?[edit]

Anyone know any details on this? It says "open source" on the page, but the website just has a signup form. Benjaminhill (talk) 19:24, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Partial progress on Capabilities/Features into Functional Capabilities[edit]

Breaking out the details into a new section, slow going so far, but seems like it would be useful to break down the functional capabilities into a more detailed layer. Open to help! Benjaminhill (talk) 06:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Appcelerator Titanium and Nitobi Phone Gap[edit]

Mobile development technologies are hot and the market is fragmented. This means the tables need to show lots of rows at this point until the long term winning platforms are sorted out in the marketplace. At this point, though, this page is missing two important mobile development platforms for iPhone, Android and other devices. What's more, they enable people with Web Development/JavaScript skills to break onto these platforms. Each product is very different.

Appcelerator Titanium (http://www.appcelerator.com) creates full on apps using the native UI and local functionality such as geolocation, filesystem and the accelerometer.

PhoneGap (http://www.nitobi.com) lets Javascript developers easily snap off their web-based app pages to take advantage of local operation of phones.

Admittedly I'm more familiar with Appcelerator Titanium and am comfortable adding it to the table. Should I go for it? Does someone have PhoneGap knowledge to contribute? Freedman1 (talk) 20 November 2009 —Preceding undated comment added 20:28, 20 November 2009 (UTC).

Deletion proposal[edit]

  • Keep but overhaul I didn't create the article but I have already proposed above that it needs some major modifications. I think there is a need for an overhaul, including a title change to Mobile Application development or something similar. There is some material that can be saved but I agree most of it is subjective and bordering on research. This is a major topic though and worthy of an article (unless it's duplicated somewhere else - haven't checked that yet.

Also It has been around since 2006 so I don't think speedy deletion is the right tool! ChrisUK (talk) 09:02, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

  • I disagree that it is subjective or research - everything in the main grid is factual distilling of various and often complex data sources. If there is a subjective area, trim, but I don't think this article should be deleted. (disclaimer - I started it.) Benjaminhill (talk) 16:53, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Links to related forums are needed[edit]

I think it would help people to have links to forums about Mobile App Development, so that people (like me) could go there and ask any question they could not find here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.108.64.1 (talk) 11:22, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Mobile Application Platform[edit]

Mobile Application Platform appears to have significant overlap with this article, and the original version appeared to be pushing a POV about mobile app deployment. Any thoughts on a merge? Invitrovanitas (talk) 16:51, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Android tools cost[edit]

The basic variant recently added to the Android row is not free so the costs column is not correct anymore when stating free. Another question is how relevant Basic4android really is. I guess it is not. With the same right one should add Flash dev tools or any programming language that can be compiled to Dalvik byte code. I pledge for removal. --89.204.137.105 (talk) 20:23, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Please add Formotus to the grid[edit]

I think Formotus actually belongs in the grid but I don't want to do that myself because of possible COI. Here's how I suggest it be added, if someone agrees and wants to do so.

Programming language = XML

Debuggers available = InfoPath design checker

Emulator available = XML forms can be previewed in InfoPath, or just "Yes"

Integrated development environment available = InfoPath

Cross-platform deployment = Same XML form runs on IOS, Android, WM6.x client software

Installer packaging options = N/A Deploy OTA from a Web console

Development tool cost = $200 for InfoPath + subscription per device

GFMobile (talk) 18:55, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Encylopedic style[edit]

I think this is a very useful article, but I belive it needs to be improved to be more encylopdic and explanative for both the casual and non-technical reader. I'm going to attempt to add some text around it at various points without changing the substance of the existing material. Comments please on improvements that could be made ChrisUK (talk) 07:18, 24 March 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.202.186.65 (talk)

Trade Association/Union/Community[edit]

Has anyone considered adding discussion of the lack of unity within the development community? There are growing numbers of local organizations to try and unite developers, but very few on the national level... I find it worth a conversation with all of the privacy conversation right now surrounding apps and no unifying voice to represent them. Wikime720 (talk) 19:18, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Why are some of the technologies on the table blue and others in red?[edit]

Jim boles (talk) 19:32, 24 January 2013 (UTC) jim boles

Blue is a clickable link to a separate Wikipedia article. Red means there's no separate article and no link. - LuckyLouie (talk) 21:03, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
To expand on what LuckyLouie said, Wikipedia:Red link provides more information. A blue link is a regular link on Wikipedia, that takes you to another Wikipedia article, and a red link takes you to a page where there is no current article. If you see a red link, you're more than welcome to try to create the article! - SudoGhost 22:29, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Orubase[edit]

Perhaps http://www.orubase.com/ should be added. It uses an ASP.NET backend. The app itself contains the tabs hardcoded and the content is loaded from the backend as a page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjheijster (talkcontribs) 13:04, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

cocos2d, cocos2d-x[edit]

cocos2d and cocos2d-x might need a mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.66.74.34 (talk) 20:46, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Blackberry[edit]

Blackberry's QNX OS is a lot more different than all the other BBOSs. I think it should be arranged to a new row to express the difference. (right now on the Blackberry row the only progamming language listed is 'Java') — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.77.203.224 (talk) 00:50, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Merge Request with other page[edit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_phone_web_based_application_framework

The lists are either interchangeable or very different from eachother. Sencha Touch is included in both (I havent checked all entries) but I feel this article would be a lot better with a merged list.

I'm just not sure what the criteria would be. There's a distinction between web-based frameworks and cross-platform frameworks in general but its kinda shuffled across these 2 articles 84.82.16.15 (talk) 09:25, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Mobile application development :: Removal of the latest entry on Appzillon :: 15 May 2014[edit]

Hello 84.82.16.15, I have a doubt regarding the comment put up for the removal of the entry about Appzillon: "I dont think its appropriate to add every new initiative to the list. I particularly vouch against adding a term with <1000 hits". I understand that I have not put up appropriate references to substantiate the entry about Appzillon that I added. I apologize for the same. Can you please clarify what this comment meant?: "I particularly vouch against adding a term with <1000 hits". I'm new to editing in Wikipedia and your help is greatly appreciated. Thank you. - JayanthSrinivas(talk) 04:30, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

While 'hits' ie search results, aren't the most accurate measure of notability, the argument is that Appzillon is not notable enough for inclusion. See WP:N. Significant coverage in independent references is important. Typically, if software isn't notable enough to have its own article on wikipedia, it is also not notable enough to be included in other articles.Dialectric (talk) 08:29, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
I understand. Thank you. One last question, if enough independent references are cited, would it be appropriate to include the software?JayanthSrinivas(talk) 05:00, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
I have the following third party references for the software that was added (Appzillon):
http://finovate.com/2013/11/i-exceed-technology-solutions-presents-appzillon-a-next-generation-mobile-app-development-platform.html
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/launch-of-unified-app-development-suite-appzillontm-by-i-exceed-180352731.html
http://news.webindia123.com/news/press_showdetailsPR.asp?id=720&cat=PR%20News%20Wire
Can you please check them out and advise me as to whether I can cite them as independent references? Thank you.
JayanthSrinivas(talk) 05:30, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey I've since made an account with the mentioned IP (a.k.a. Cratyz). Dialectric made it clear already, I shouldve used a different kind of wording perhaps but the point is that the article shouldn't contain excessive sources of minor 'frameworks', mainly because it would come from a single source and being not notable enough. If someone would write a Wikipedia-article about their local web development company it will probably be removed because the company did not make or do anything of crucial importance or add to the subject of 'web development' in general. Cratyz (talk) 09:12, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Duly noted. Thanks for the inputs Cratyz. JayanthSrinivas(talk) 09:30, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Platform benchmarking[edit]

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I added a link to a very interesting project that benchmarks different platforms, native and cross-platforms, by implementing the same application in every platform. The project provides also the source code and apks. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mobile_application_development&diff=624137181&oldid=624135251 The edit has been reverted, but I think it should be revised rather than deleted, as it is a very hot topic in mobile development. As I am not a wikipedia expert can someone explain me how to cover this argument without doing spam? Deleting contributions in such a way is not polite and does not encourage new users, moreover is againts wikipedia basic principles. Thanks, --Windman83 (talk) 10:11, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Reply to {{help me}} request: You should read these articles:
  1. Inappropriate (spam) external links
  2. What is a reliable source?
  3. What is a primary source?
  4. What is a conflict of interest?
In short, you can't include the product unless there are reliable third-party sources that cover the product. And then, if it is a product you are personally associated with, you shouldn't add it yourself, as it could be a conflict of interest. After you have read all those articles, if you still don't understand, please ask here again. —    Bill W.    (Talk)  (Contrib)  (User:Wtwilson3)  — 14:04, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hi, Windman83 – none of us mean to be impolite, for we are all volunteer contributors. Rather than feel discouraged, try to understand that this is a reference work and must stay neutral when it brings information to readers. The link you provided is definitely spam, so the way to cover the subject is to find a link that is more of a news story about the subject, a link that does not try to sell the reader something and instead tries to inform the reader about the subject of benchmarking. Joys! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 14:09, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Please se my last edit, is it appropriate? Thank you very much for your precious help! Windman83 (talk) 16:17, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
I believe so, Windman83 – I tweaked it a little and added info to the citation that will help readers find the book's info. I also found other books with similar titles that might also be cited. – Paine  09:11, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

RAD Studio is missing[edit]

RAD Studio from Embarcadero Technologies (including Delphi and C++Builder) is missing from the list of mobile development tools, but it is used by thousands of mobile developers today and there are many apps in the Google Play Store and Apple App Store written with it. I work for the company, so I'm not in a good position to write that, though.

151.67.99.191 (talk) 14:12, 13 April 2015 (UTC) Marco Cantu