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A fact from NJGov appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 September 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that when asked who let New Jersey have a Twitter account, its manager simply replied, "your mom"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Megan Coyne.

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Theleekycauldron (talk) 17:04, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that according to New Jersey's Twitter account manager, "'your mom' is the gold standard"?
- ALT1: ... that New Jersey has repeatedly engaged in Twitter feuds with Delaware and Connecticut?
- ALT2: ... that Ukraine follows New Jersey on Twitter "cauz they're awesome"?
- Reviewed: 2000 Alabama Amendment 2
- Comment: Please make sure to check for puffery! I did my best to not be too positive, but I felt myself drifting towards the flowery adjectives... extra-fine check for puffery would be appreciated :) hooks are arranged in descending order of preference.

Created by Theleekycauldron (talk). Self-nominated at 08:28, 30 August 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Comment: See Template:Did you know nominations/Megan Coyne for additional context before promoting this nomination. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 04:56, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
promoted alongside Megan Coyne as a double hook at Template:Did you know nominations/Megan Coyne. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:58, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 20:03, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that under the management of Megan Coyne, New Jersey's Twitter account grew into the largest of any U.S. state while posting dank memes? Source: <https://www.rutgers.edu/news/rutgers-grad-helps-put-jersey-njgov-twitter-account> <https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/19/nyregion/new-jersey-twitter-njgov.html>
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Supply-side progressivism
- Comment: I'm not able to find any free photographs of Coyne, so I unfortunately cannot include an image in this nomination. I suspect that Theleekycauldron may have some ideas for hooks, so I'd like to hear what they have to say before this gets added to a prep.

Created by Red-tailed hawk (talk) and Theleekycauldron (talk). Nominated by Red-tailed hawk (talk) at 04:29, 31 August 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Soooo... I did already make my own DYK nom earlier this morning, over at Template:Did you know nominations/New Jersey on Twitter (the article was since renamed). What we'll do is treat this as the nomination for Megan Coyne, and should the two be promoted as a double hook, we'll close both at once. If not, I have separate hooks that are up and ready to go, and I suggest that Red-tailed hawk prepare some as well :) with that said, here are my double hooks (labelled "d" for convenience): theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 04:55, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT d1: ... that when asked who let New Jersey have a twitter account, its manager simply replied, "your mom"?
- ALT d2: ... that according to Megan Coyne, who ran New Jersey's Twitter account, "you can call us an armpit. Armpits are great!"?
- ALT d3: ... that New Jersey's Twitter account took an "edgier" turn when Megan Coyne joined its management staff?
oh, and why not, some individual hooks:
- ALT1: ... that Megan Coyne might have caused the White House to go "goblin mode" in a Twitter thread?

@Red-tailed hawk and Theleekycauldron: I think a double hook nomination works super well here and both articles are GTG as far as I can tell. Each user has provided a QPQ for their separate articles, Earwig looks good, and each article is new and long enough. Sourcing looks good too. I personally like ALT0, ALTd1, and ALTd3 the best but any hook with both links is good with me. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:57, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Official account of the State of New Jersey?[edit]

It appears this isn’t really an official Twitter, but more of a New Jersey Democratic Party booster account. I did a quick skim and couldn’t find a single GOP retweet, but numerous appearances by Phil Murphy. If by official Twitter you mean an account controlled by the governor, then that should be indicated. Otherwise it feels like we are giving undue attention to what feels like a partisan marketing campaign. Thriley (talk) 16:22, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lee Vilenski: any thoughts? I think it should be clear that the account is run by the governors office and does, from a few minutes glance, seem to be politically supportive of New Jersey Democrats and not Republicans. Thriley (talk) 20:12, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not political (or American), but do you have any sourcing for that? An official account doesn't need to be run by the Governor, and I've seen plenty of sources calling it the State's account. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:16, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The two people that run it were employed by the governor: Axios. I would think that an “official account” would be run by the office of the governor. I think this should be more clearly stated. Thriley (talk) 20:26, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Thriley: How would you implement that change in the article? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 20:34, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would try to detail the political nature of account. Detail the political affiliations and the exact role each person had. Pearl Gabel’s LinkedIn states that as Digital Director for the State of New Jersey her role was to “Oversee digital operations for New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy, including video, photo, social media, website initiatives, and statewide campaigns. Grew millions of followers organically through bold, innovative content on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok that garnered international press and numerous awards.” Thriley (talk) 01:31, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, feel free to add that if you can get independent sourcing for it. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 01:35, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Passed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:40, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:NJGov/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 20:57, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Links[edit]

Prose[edit]

Lede[edit]

@NJGov - is the @ symbol actually a part of the account name? I thought that was just for pinging. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
removed the @ theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:42, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Lede seems obsessed with things it's posted post-2019. Why haven't we stated when it began first? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
two birds with one stone, added backdrop theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:52, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"rose to popularity" - puff. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
changed to began garnering a significant follower base theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:43, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

government-run account's managers, - this is a run-on and doesn't work. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
not sure what you mean, but I did move "government-run" theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:44, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For future reference, the previous: "government-run account" is fine and "account's manager" is fine, but otherwise it reads that the managers are government run. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:29, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
tone described as "sassy" and "sharp", ^{[according to whom?]} Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Attribution isn't needed in a lead – can be found in the article. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but, by publications? Fans? Other Twitter users? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:30, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
added attribution :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 05:29, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
outpacing is the wrong word for a value. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree; google says that it means to "go, rise, or improve faster than", and gives the example of "he took the pass and outpaced the defense to score in the corner". theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:46, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Reception of @NJGov has been generally positive. - once again ^{[according to whom?]} Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:41, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
see previous, although I could say "from media outlets". theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General[edit]

I completely disagree that the infobox image is fair use. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:48, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I asked on the discord and they said it was; I couldn't quite believe it either. It might work as a logo; if not, feel free to FFD? I could see it going either way. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:46, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I shall.Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:31, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Infobox mentioned Edwin Torres, lede does not. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:48, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
two birds with one stone, added Torres theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:52, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What's with the tweet? I know this is an article on a Twitter account, but it's very much just a random witty comment. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:48, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
which one? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The images just say the people and where the image was taken. Have we not got anything to say about the images? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:48, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
what do you think they're missing? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
New Jersey Monthly writes - newspapers don't write, authors do. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:48, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
fixed theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:53, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The quote box really isn't needed. We can say what they wanted to do without quoting them to that extent. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:48, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
which one? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:48, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- - "We’re owning this brand that New Jersey already has..." Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:37, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    all righty, I replaced it with prose theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 05:28, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As a Twitter user since the age of 13 and a 22-year-old - I'm assuming you mean that she was 22 years old, and that she had used the site since she was 13, but I don't see how the rest of the paragraph requires that you need to know this information. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:48, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
someone who's been on Twitter for 9 years and is still relatively young is more able to keep their finger on the pulse of "what's cool", is what I was trying to get at. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:49, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- - I guess you could make the same commentary even if there was no mention of her being on the site for nine years. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:36, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the fact that they have so much experience with the site is something to speak to, actually. I have a cousin who's roughly my age, but I've had a cell phone and general access to social media for far longer. Watching them enjoy the same memes and delve into the same topics I did when I was first foraying into the internet showed me that longevity on a site can influence your ability to understand its mechanisms and tendencies as much as being in the right age demographic. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 05:31, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Review meta comments[edit]

I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:57, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Lee Vilenski! I've made some initial fixes and replies :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 18:53, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.