Talk:National Gingerbread House Competition

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 18:47, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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2008 competition entries

• ... that due to the effects of Hurricane Helene, the National Gingerbread House Competition (pictured) has been canceled for the first time in history?

• Source: In the wake of Hurricane Helene, the Omni Grove Park Inn announced its 32nd annual National Gingerbread House competition. https://www.foxcarolina.com/2024/10/22/omni-grove-park-inn-cancels-national-gingerbread-house-competition/

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Created by Hkeely (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Hkeely (talk) 15:55, 22 October 2024 (UTC).

• Hi Hkeely, welcome to DYK. Interesting article but it is currently below the 1,500 character minimum requirement (see WP:DYKLEN), can it be extended with more content? - Dumelow (talk) 20:20, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

• Hi Dumelow, thank you. I have expanded the article with additional content so that it now surpasses the 1,500 character minimum requirement - Hkeely (talk) 04:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Hkeely. The length is now fine, article was created on time (22 October), sources used look to be reliable for the content and I found no issues with overly close paraphrasing, image is good (I trimmed the caption quite a bit). A couple of questions on sourcing:

• I couldn't see in the Fox Carolina source where it said this was the only time the event had been cancelled?
• Can you add a citation in the article for the last sentence of the first paragraph about the TV channels it has been broadcast on?

Apart from that I think this is good to go - Dumelow (talk) 07:32, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Dumelow. Thank you for checking this and trimming the caption. I've added a citation for the TV channel coverage. The cancelation information is because the contest started in 1992 and this would have been the 32nd annual event. Since there were 31 events prior, that adds up mathematically. I did include new information about the public display portion being canceled during the Covid pandemic in 2020, though judging did continue that year. - Hkeely (talk) 17:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi Hkeely, if the first event was held in 1992 and it was held every year then 2024 would have been the 33rd event. There are 32 years between the first and last event but 33 events (see fencepost error) - Dumelow (talk) 08:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

@Hkeely: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 15:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

@Z1720: The competition hosts themselves say that the event started in 1992 and that 2024 would have been the 32nd annual competition. https://www.omnihotels.com/hotels/asheville-grove-park/things-to-do/national-gingerbread-competition I presume this is the case because the first year wasn't actually judged. Hkeely (talk) 19:37, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

@Hkeely and Z1720: Sorry for delay in replying. I am not sure that is enough for us to assume it is the first time, but happy if another reviewer thinks it is. Is there an alternative wording we can look at? - Dumelow (talk) 10:22, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

@Hkeely: Going purely off what's on this nom, the hook is not accurate and should be replaced.--Launchballer 13:04, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

• @Launchballer, Dumelow, Z1720, and Hkeely: How about this?

ALT1 ... that despite its name, the National Gingerbread House Competition (pictured) has featured gingerbread clock towers, ocean liners, and giant pandas?

Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:48, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

• @Launchballer, Dumelow, Z1720, and Narutolovehinata5: Great idea! I've updated the hook based on actual entries. Hkeely (talk) 16:05, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that despite its name, the National Gingerbread House Competition (pictured) has featured gingerbread merry-go-rounds, sea monsters, and even the Statue of Liberty?

Hi all. Merry-go-rounds, sea monsters, and the Statue of Liberty proposed in (what I have labelled) ALT2 are not mentioned in the article. "clock towers, ocean liners, and giant pandas" are mentioned in the article but not the source cited there - Dumelow (talk) 18:43, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

@Hkeely: Just for clarification, you should not have replaced the original hook (ALT0) with the new one (ALT2), as this could cause confusion regarding the nomination history. I've restored the original hook to its place (albeit struck out to show that it is no longer under consideration), and moved ALT2 to later in the discussion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:07, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

@Hkeely: Please address the above.--Launchballer 23:33, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

• @Launchballer and Dumelow: I've updated the article with sources to support the items mentioned in ALT2. Thank you. Hkeely (talk) 02:41, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes, ALT2 looks fine. Perhaps a good one for the Christmas set? - Dumelow (talk) 09:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)