Talk:Northwest Arkansas

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We need an accurate "Demographics" section.

Love some help on that.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmcclen (talk • contribs) 22:19, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Objectivity.

Congratulations to those who have made the effort to build a quality Wikipedia entry for NWA.

However: not meaning to be a curmudgeon, but remember that Wikipedia is meant to be an objective source. The perspective should be similar to what World Book or Brittanica would write about NWA. In contrast, at present the entry reads like what a local chamber of commerce would write about NWA.

I suggest that the writers make the entry more objective (and more interesting) by discussing the potential negative aspects of NWA:

(1) The wealth/income per capita in NWA is below Little Rock and well below the national average.

(2) Benton County is dry (albeit damp), which is of considerable irritation to out-of-town visitors. Most out-of-towners consider even Washington county to be strict, since there are no beer or wine available in grocery stores. Commentary on the efforts to change the status of Benton County would be interesting.

(3) The recent fall of the real estate market in NWA.

(4) The Latino immigration issue, and the challenges that have come with it.

(5) The wealth divide between those who moved to NWA and those who were raised there. Vendors versus blue collar, etc.

There's no harm in writing all the good things about NWA. However, I respectfully suggest that the entry will have more credibility if (1) outright boosterism is toned down (2) the potential problems and challenges of NWA are discussed.

Again, thanks for your effort in building this Wikipedia entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.207.244.4 (talk) 21:07, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea to include a section on local issues facing NWA (Northwest Arkansas) represented by Benton, Washington and Madison counties, there was a rise of KKK activity recently in the town of Green Forest in Carroll county (included). The town has a large low-income Hispanic minority when they came for jobs when the local economy was booming. The prohibitionist belief system is a classic, yet stereotypical trait of Arkansas' strong conservative politics and culture, a big contribution of attracting suburban escapees to the Fayetteville area when new homes appeared across the landscape, but one can find farms and small towns within a 5 mile driving distance. The NWA metro area is where change, progress and opportunity arrived in this historically part of "Ozarkia", known for rural poverty and being portrayed a land of "backwoods hillbillies" clinging to guns and their bibles against the world around them. Sadly, the real estate crash has added another cash burden to NWA, to watch home values drop so quickly and with the risen cost of living by the presence of upper-middle class residents at the first place, you may have a community about to collapse if it weren't for the presence of a megacompany Wal-Mart and the other 50 companies (a tenth of the Fortune500), except they fallen on real hard times. + 71.102.2.206 (talk) 09:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Response

While the objectivity issue is important on Wikipedia, you would be very hard pressed to find a Wiki entry on a city/place that includes much, if any, negative aspects concerning the area (IE...Austin, TX, the Triangle, Seattle, even Los Angeles).

I think adding more sections, such as Demographics, History, Geography, and Climate, is a much bigger issue facing this article than objectivity.

Again, objectivity is important, but this article should closely match others of the same classification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmcclen (talk • contribs) 03:49, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 08:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other things in NWA

There are many other festivals that occur in the NWA area that are widely recognized. In particular the Grape Festival in Tontitown, the War Eagle Craft Fair, the Washington and Benton County Fairs, Prarie Grove Craft Fair. Might even mention regular re-enactments of the Battle of Prarie Grove (civil war battlefield).

On the suburbs list there are many missing. Maybe a note with to a full list? Afterall, there are LOTS of towns nearby some of which are quite close, such as Goshen, Elkins, Cave Springs, Pea Ridge, and others.

There are also some other business HQs located in the area. PAM Transport is located in Tontitown and is a nationwide trucking company. George's Inc is located in Springdale I believe. Lindsey Management is one of the largest property management companies in the south/southeast (if not the US). Wjmurdick (talk) 23:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes we must include them and to enrich the article's informative nature to better describe the NWA area. Pea Ridge was a site of a historic Civil War battle in 1862, including a small pro-Confederate batallion of the Cherokee Nation from nearby Indian territory now Oklahoma confronted an Union cavalry across the Missouri state line. There's a point along highway 43 of a tri-state marker on the west edge of the road points where the state boundaries of Ark, Mo. and Ok. meet, but it's within the zip code or census tract of Southwest City (MO). The western halves of both Benton and Washington county, Ark. was from what I know of as a man of partial Cherokee/Osage descent a lost portion of Cherokee territory from 1839 to the end of the civil war (1865), but the state boundary of Arkansas was already established in 1836 might went ignored or unrecognized by locals, once the Ozark culture was isolated until the 1930's with the pavement of U.S. route 71 (now I-540 freeway). Since invisible lines drawn by man are not physical and in geography, these are valleys settled by peoples who may sociopolitically belong to Arkansas, Oklahoma or Missouri. There are some descendants of Cherokee Indians along US 62 and US 412 in a predominantly "white" area when in fact you'll find many ethnicities in NWA, like Tontitown is predominantly Italian in character best seen in its' annual grape festival. + 71.102.2.206 (talk) 09:40, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 May 2015

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. Number 5 7 18:52, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fayetteville–Springdale–Rogers metropolitan area → Northwest Arkansas – This is an attempt to move the page from its almost-never-used official Census name to its widely recognized name, officially adopted by the region itself. This is evident in a variety of ways, perhaps most notably by the Northwest Arkansas Council, the nonprofit organization tasked with promoting the region, the Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport (XNA) which serves the entire region, the Northwest Arkansas Naturals, the local minor league baseball team, the Northwest Arkansas Tourism Association, the Northwest Arkansas Regional Planning Commission (regional MPO), etc etc. This name is how the region identifies itself.

The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, the state's #1 newspaper, is based in Little Rock. Searching for "Northwest Arkansas" brings up 27k results, where searching for "Fayetteville metro" brings 1k results, with "Fayetteville Metro Area" bringing 5 results.

The two main population centers in Arkansas are Central Arkansas and Northwest Arkansas.

No one living in Springdale, Bentonville or Rogers says they live in "the Fayetteville metro" and they sure don't say they live in the "Fayetteville–Springdale–Rogers metropolitan area". What they all say is they live in "Northwest Arkansas". In the state and surrounding states, "Northwest Arkansas" has a distinct meaning, which is mostly understood as Benton and Washington counties. No one from these parts interprets it as "the northwestern 1/4 of the state", including the State of Arkansas itself. For example, Clarksville and Russellville do not refer to themselves as being "northwest Arkansas" although a strict geographical description may put them there.

The current naming conventions are cumbersome, to say the least, as well as largely being official for the sake of being official. A similar discussion recently was closed in favor of the move at Talk:Central Arkansas#Requested move 13 January 2015. Thanks, and I appreciate all of y'all's consideration. --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 19:12, 3 June 2015 (UTC) Brandonrush (talk) 17:45, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment part of it is in Missouri, so are you rescoping the article? --- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 05:17, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I don't think a rescoping is necessary; I count 39 references to New Jersey within New York City's article. Red Slash 22:41, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. The term "Northwest Arkansas" has a distinct meaning. O N R (talk) 21:00, 6 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support The precedent for other MSAs has been to use the name is the full census name is no as common.--Prisencolinensinainciusol (talk) 01:07, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Update

This article is in need of an update. McDonald County, Missouri is no longer a part of the CSA. see. Grey Wanderer (talk) 09:25, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]