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A fact from Nurhajizah Marpaung appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 June 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that after Nurhajizah Marpaung unsuccessfully defended Butar Butar against human rights violations, she became the first woman to serve as vice governor of North Sumatra?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 05:48, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that former vice governor of North Sumatra Nurhajizah Marpaung was involved in a human rights violation trial during her service in the military? Source: ref. #4 in the article
- ALT1:... that a poll conducted at the end of Nurhajizah Marpaung's term showed that only 12.4% of the respondents were satisfied with her performance as vice governor? Source: ref. #26 in article
- ALT2:... that Nurhajizah Marpaung was the first woman to serve as vice governor of North Sumatra? "North Sumatra gets first female deputy governor." The Jakarta Post
- ALT3:... that after Nurhajizah Marpaung unsuccessfully defended Butar Butar against human rights violations, she became the first woman to serve as vice governor of North Sumatra? "North Sumatra gets first female deputy governor." The Jakarta Post, "The panel of judges chaired by Cicut Sutiarso sentenced the former commander of the 0502 North Jakarta Military District, Major General (ret.) Rudolf Adolf Butar Butar." Tempo

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KHLO

Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 13:47, 14 May 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - See comments below about whether Butar Butar case is correctly described in the article.
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting: - See comment

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Copyvio report good, but most sources are not in English, so I'm assuming good faith on plagiarism. The main hook & ALT1 hook are not that interesting to me, especially since she just repped someone in a human rights violation case as opposed to having been prosecuted or prosecuting a case such as that. I have suggested ALT2 instead, which notes the historic aspect of her appointment as deputy governor. QuakerSquirrel (talk) 16:17, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@QuakerSquirrel: Hi, thank you for reviewing. I always tried to avoid "X is the first" because there was a bit of a controversy regarding such format not long ago. Personally, whenever I put the "X is the first" part, I always tried to pair it with an equally interesting fact from the article. Is it possible to propose another alternative blurb that pairs the "first" fact with another interesting fact from the article? --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 05:37, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jeromi Mikhael:, thanks for the link to that discussion. Interesting! It seems that there wasn't really consensus that "first to" is bad & at least in the one example, "first to" hooks resulted in the most and fewest hits. However, I've combined them in a proposed ALT3 hook. Unfortunately, as I was looking, it seems the wiki article is incorrect, if Google Translate is to be trusted. The wiki article says that Butar Butar was charged with something that happened in 1996, but the two links in ALT3 refer to the "Tanjung Priok incident on September 12, 1984". Can you take a look at this & correct the article as needed? QuakerSquirrel (talk) 13:31, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@QuakerSquirrel: Ah yeah - thanks for pointing that mistake, I read the newspiece too quickly. I've corrected it accordingly. I approve your ALT, please go ahead. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 01:47, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Approved with a preference for ALT3. (I'm not totally sure whether to use the AGF tick, because I used Google translate to read the articles but they are not in English & I cannot read them without Google translate.) QuakerSquirrel (talk) 12:35, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]