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I've just fully protected this article due to the ongoing edit warring. Please discuss the matter here instead of continually reverting. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:22, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There should be Bosnian Serb until he decided to play for National team. He refused to play for Bosnia. Serbs and Croats from Bosnia dont play for Bosnian national team, there is a lot of players like Zoran Planinic, Bojan Bogdanovic, Vladimir Radmanovic, Predrag Danilovic or football players Savo Milosevic, Ognjen Koroman ...there were all born in Bosnia but they played for Croatia and Serbia. Bosnia is country where lives three nationalities Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats. Serbs are from Republika Srpska. There should be only Serbian but until he officialy play a game for Serbia there should be Bosnian Serb, that is most correct information. Bosnian could not be cause he refused and never played for Bosnian national team. (talk) 11:46, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Man, that was a serious edit war. One of you should definitely have been the big boy, stopped and gone to WP:NBA or the talk page. DaHuzyBru (talk) 16:30, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the introduction sentence to the correct "Serb from Bosnia and Herzegovina" but it was reverted, and I do not understand the reason. He is Serb, FROM Bosnia (where he was born), and this is a fact. Is there a particular reason for the revertion? The sentence does not, in any way, imply anything more than this fact. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.48.71.237 (talk) 11:39, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Its reverted because his nationality is Serbian... it doesnt matter is he from Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montengro or any other country, he is Serb. In infobox you have name of city and country where he was born and only if people are blind they will not see that he was born in BiH.--178.222.152.150 (talk) 16:30, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
OK, no problem, I was just asking and wondering since it is a common practice anywhere. No reason to get offended, nobody disputed the fact, and nobody was talking about the nationality (it is completely irrelevant to my question, so I do not know why you even mentioned it, but let's leave it there). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.35.3.28 (talk) 22:42, 18 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality - final discussion

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Hi! The reason I'm writing again about his nationality is in order to help stopping potential WP:EW in the future. Someone being born in Doboj, SR Bosnia and Herzegovina
SFR Yugoslavia (modern day Bosnia and Herzegovina) automatically grants that person a Bosnian citizenship/nationality if his birth was registered. Sources proves it was registred. Moreover, he did play for the under-senior teams of Bosnia and Herzegovina national basketball team, but, after turning 18, he had an option to decide for which country to play, as per [1] (see from article 16-24) and sources as per current article version [2] prove that he choose to play for Serbia and represent the Serbia national basketball team instead. So, according to the official FIBA rules, to play and to be registered for different national team, the player needs to have, in this case, Serbian passport. Being already twice on the official shortlist for major international competitions (see sources in links above) by Serbian basketball governing body Basketball Federation of Serbia, proves his Serbian nationality. To conclude, he is a Bosnian-born Serbian professional basketball player and has both Bosnian and Serbian nationality. Any future reverts concerning his nationality back and forth to Bosnian/Serbian only will be considered as vandalism and reported to the community (e.g. administrators). Thanks!--AirWolf talk 14:34, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The reason i reverted Bosnian-born is because he is an ethnic Serb, and there is already mentioned in infobox both Bosnian / Serbian. He is not other nationality like some other American players who plays for European national teams... they have other nationality so its pretty normal for Bo Mccaleb to be American-born Macedonian, not Macedonian, cause he is other nationality. But Kuzmic is Serb from Bosnia, and if you dont know constituion of BiH lets remind you - Bosnia is country whith three nationalities Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats-... anyway if we add him Bosnian born-Serbian then we also must change to hundred all other sports people from Bosnia who represented Serbian or Croatian national teams- some of Croats-Bojan Bogdanovic, Stanko Barac, Damir Markota... some of Serbs-Predrag Danilovic, Vladimir Radmanovic... and that is pretty stupid. All that sport people declare themselves as Croats or Serbs so who are we to add them some new nationality invented in 1995. So in my opinion Bosnian should be in infobox but not in introduction, cause he now represents Serbian national team. I will wait for answer, and if no one answer me i will revert to Serbian... I honestly loosing my will for this case.. i started discussion on talk page about this almost two years ago, but no one didnt answer...people are not interested to discuss they just revert.--Bozalegenda (talk) 15:40, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The point is, this is more specific case then those you've mentioned. He has played for junior teams of Bosnian team, and many websites (fiba.com as the most referent) claim(ed) that he has Bosnian nationality. So you really can't just remove it since he has chosen to play for the Serbian national team. So, I think there is no problem with his nationality status at all.--AirWolf talk 07:19, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Kuzmic never played for junior Bosnian national teams, he was just called for senior national team but he never played for them. By Fibaeurope he never represented Bosnia in U15, U16, U18 or U20 level. So there is no need to have Bosnian-born. Also FIBA.com is just giving nationality by the birthplace, and Kuzmic already declare himself that he wants to play for Serbia. So if this could be Bosnian-born than i will go to Kyrie Irving to add Australian-born or Tim Duncan US Virgin-born (thay also have their national team) and you will see that Americans will revert me without problems. Bosnian in infobox is enough but in introduction no. Also i dont know are you have something against Serbs, but if you have please leave it outside wikipedia. And this time i will not wait three days for answer to revert to Serbian. Cheers mate.--Bozalegenda (talk) 13:39, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Leave personal views and prejudice outside this discussion and Wikipedia. Also, assuming you haven't already known, and based on what you've written in your last sentences, you do not own articles on Wikipedia. To go back on topic, I think that we should stick to information presented on other more reliable sites, such as fiba.com, nba.com, eurobasket.com etc. And definitely, there shouldn't be room for judging why have they put it that way. After all that being said, I won't oppose your suggestion to leave his Bosnian nationality in infobox.--AirWolf talk 20:20, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I also think that Bosnian Serbs who play for Serbian national teams should be only Serbian basketball player if they never played for Bosnia and Herzegovina before, including junior national teams. There are many similar examples of Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats in sport. -Aca Srbin (talk) 00:16, 2 August 2015 (UCT)
Of course that there should not be Bosnian, he is an ethnic Serb who plays for Serbian national team, he is not naturalised player to have that. Also he never represented Bosnia in junior level (like Air wolf lied) so here is everything clear. In infobox we have Bosnian, in *International career* section we have Bosnian Serb, so that is enough. And Airwolf, of course that i do not own this article but i think that you want to own this.--Bozalegenda (talk) 01:27, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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