Talk:Peter Jukes

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A Shout in the Street : ISBN: B00126K04C London, New York and California The review from the New Yorker is visible on Google on the following link,, "A lucid courteous deconstructionist text... a new kind of book"- unfortunately, you have to pay to see the whole article
Cited in 71 books according to Google Books, "Peter%20Jukes"&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wp About half of those are truly substantial quotes, like the one someone has already added to Wikipedia- "Peter+Jukes"&source=bl&ots=qRTyWdrR2Y&sig=kKFxpUUefNzIDRD8u1n47F6gK-0&hl=en&ei=XSbASdj0AeLEjAfZlfgl&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=7&ct=result

Cited in 24 academic works according to Google scholar. Other academic references: (though this appears to be... Portugese?
Currently used extensively as a primer book on urbanism in many US and UK colleges, see, and Also co wrote Creative Capital: 21st Century Regions,, with others including the economist and Philosopher Manuell Castells,


Cut Motley Moose ref

[1]--Moloch09 (talk) 18:59, 20 March 2009 (UTC)



Is that good enough? Ks64q2 (talk) 02:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

No it is not. The 10 i choose at random don't discuss jukes in any nontrivial way at all. Having works that get passant reviews, or that note he had a job with no detail about him whatsoever, or pages that are automatically translated into other languages (or are just TV guides that mention he wrote a non-notable episode of a TV program in English that is being broadcast in their country, i.e. "cruft of the world, season 2, episode 6, peter jukes) or don't mention his name AT ALL (like the swedish TV guide site i just clicked on) do nothing to establish notability for anyone. Bali ultimate (talk) 02:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
There's some useful stuff in here. Ks64q2, please check the New Yorker link. It didn't work for me. Thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry about that. Ks64q2 (talk) 03:05, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
And for good measure: Slavery1.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ks64q2 (talkcontribs) 03:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, posting that that image seems to a copyright violation. Not that helps establish notability anyway, since it's primarily about the radio show, not Jukes himself.--Sloane (talk) 04:17, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry Sloane but dramatic writers write about other people. They are notable if their work is noted not their lives. This is a good review. Brief transcription
"As the Slavery season comes to a close... my favourite strand, by far, was one which managed to extract maximum humour from the grimmest of subject matters: Peter Jukes' wonderful play Slavery: The Making Of" cite news | last=Cowen | first=Ruth | title=Bickering actors bring humour to a serious subject | work=Sunday Express | date=2007-03-25 | accessdate=2009-03-18
I call that pretty effusive and its followed by a 700 word rave about the play itself which features notable actors such as Lenny Henry, Adrian Lester (swoon), Brian Blessed and Emma Thompson's husband Greg Wise. Now that the citation has been verified the image can be deleted for copyright reasons. I will do the same transcription of the New Yorker Review above if thats ok (yes I'm an idiot I have a subscription). Call me naive but the fact Jukes is mentioned as author and the play has a very favorable reception is surely more important than the any bio of Jukes? Let me know if you have a problem with this. Hope youre having a great day Sloane --Moloch09 (talk) 23:01, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Still plugging away trying to get this article beyond stub or cv before Afd closes. Plenty more references to go. Still no mention of special speaking and the Journalism section should perhaps be renamed Essays and Criticism? The works seem more like social commentary on new tech etc. And the Politics section could perhaps be separate. Found refs to Gordon Brown's speech on Britishness in 1998 but as yet no direct citation of Jukes' involvement. Given the other stuff can we take this in good faith? Would appreciate advice on these issues--Moloch09 (talk) 21:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Excessive article[edit]

I don't think this entry should be deleted, but it is ridiculously long. Two dozen paragraphs and 43 (so far) footnotes for a very minor writer? Furthermore, much of it sounds like pure PR (why all the quoted blurbs?). Someone should do some pruning. Languagehat (talk) 17:00, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

My bad. Loads of sources were handed out in during a rather heated AFD where everything unsourced was edited out. I offered to plug it all in. Now that issue has been settled I'll start pruning back on all the unnecessary blurb I addedMoloch09 (talk) 16:57, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! Languagehat (talk) 17:32, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposed removal of redundant publisher information[edit]

A number of citations in this article unnecessarily include the publisher for periodicals and websites that have their own Wikipedia article. This information has no value to anyone wanting to check or track down references. For example, publisher=Washington Post Company for references to The Washington Post, or publisher=IMDB for references to Box Office Mojo, only make the article longer - significantly longer when repeated many times - without adding anything useful. Therefore I plan to upgrade the article's citations to remove all such redundant publisher info, bringing them into line with the recommended use of the cite template (see Template:Citation#Publisher). Please raise any questions here or on my talk page. Colonies Chris (talk) 21:45, 16 November 2012 (UTC)


This is basically a PR entry. Is this what Wiki is about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:59, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

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