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Welsh Oak[edit]

I've heard the Sessile oak also being called Welsh oak, possibly as a form of arboreal rivalry to the Pedunculate (or English) oak. I suppose this usage would be pretty restricted in its geographical range. Throquzum 12:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Apparently it's the national tree of wales. Perhaps that should be mentioned on this article.

The emphasis should be on sessile oak rather than Cornish oak as sessile is the common name used. This is the only article that I have come across using the name Cornish Oak. Jowaninpensans (talk) 10:52, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (GG-J's Talk) 18:30, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

I've also heard that the Sessile Oak is more common in Scotland, especially the West Highlands, than the Pedunculate Oak. Can anyone confirm this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:06, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

It's commonly called the "upland oak", throughout Britain (at least where there are any of them). It's widely distributed, rare in good conditions (those oaks will be Q. robur), but more common on poorer soils and upland areas. It's also thought of as smaller than robur, but although true as a general observation, that's more to do with habitat than species. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Since the above discussions, the term "Irish oak" has been added to the lead paragraphs and is now in the opening sentence. I couldn't find any evidence of this term. In particular, the cited Tree Council of Ireland don't really mention it except to say on one page that the traditional Irish oak is the sessile oak. So I don't think Irish Oak can be considered a common name. GRIN lists "sessile oak" and "durmast oak" as the only English language common names. My feeling is that the terms Irish, Welsh and Cornish oak should all be removed. Wondering what others think about this. Thanks Declangi (talk) 04:00, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

I agree. Quercus petraea is not peculiar to any of these regions. Sessile oak is the BSBI name. Plantsurfer 10:25, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
@Plantsurfer: thanks for responding. I went ahead and removed those terms Irish, Welsh and Cornish oak. Added BSBI as reference for sessile oak. Then GRIN for durmast oak. I retained some of the info about (unofficial) national symbols as the provided references do support this. The Tree Council of Ireland reference did not support either Irish oak or it being the national symbol and a check beyond didn't yield me anything. Declangi (talk) 09:14, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

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