Talk:Rahul Dravid

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Former good article nominee Rahul Dravid was a Sports and recreation good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Mentioning Caste[edit]

Dear Editors!
There has been a discussion on India Portal related to mentioning of caste of subjects. The point is that mentioning caste of people, who have nothing to do with their caste, is found to be unnecessary by few editors. Hence the caste of the subject person needs to be deleted from the biography. I am not deleting the caste as of now but am only posting this here so that the regular editors of this article are well aware of it beforehand and no edit-wars take place. For details of discussion held on the portal please refer Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Mentioning_caste_of_Individuals. Your views if any are welcome there or even here.
And.... as the reasons of exclusion of caste pointed out were "irrelavant to notability of subject person", "privacy of the subject person", "inclusion of caste is like branding individuals", etc. other information included in the article which also fall under these cases will also be removed after discussions. Examples of it included religion, non-notable spouse's and children's and parents' information, previous occupation, lived in places, non-notability related educational qualification, etc.
Your views on this are also welcome here or at the India portal. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 17:13, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Not here, please. There is a community discussion taking place at WT:INB and I would advise people to read the entire discussion before forming an opinion because the above summary is incorrect. Nothing more need be said here. - Sitush (talk) 02:14, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 March 2012[edit]

Rahul Dravid's wife's name is spelled as "Vijeeta" and not "Vijeta" as mentioned. Please correct this minor error.


14.99.93.36 (talk) 07:28, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 15:18, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Dear Editor, Rahul Dravid is actively involved with Bangalore Hospice Trust (www.karunashraya.org). He is the Ambassador and I have seen him attend the board meeting. Karunashraya is situated in Bangalore and it is the best is providing free palliative care for terminally ill cancer patients. He has a heart for those who are dying by this dreaded disease. Appreciate of you can include this in the main article along with the two already mentioned/ Karunashraya is supported by Lion's Rotary Club, Bangalore club and was initially funded by Govt of Karnataka. The current facility was inaugurated by then Governor Khurshid Alam Khan and a lot of High tech companies along with individuals provide financial, kin and voluntary support Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.174.240 (talk) 12:05, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 7 May 2012[edit]

in the retirement section

'he dint expect to be recalled'

should be didn't, its on the second line of this section

92.234.170.48 (talk) 17:02, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Thank you. —SpacemanSpiff 17:33, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 23 July 2012[edit]

He is only the second player, after Sachin Tendulkar, to reach 13,000 runs in Test cricket.[5]

Please change to

He became the second player, after Sachin Tendulkar, to reach 13,000 runs in Test cricket.[5]

You can an additional footnote for citation http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting 59.61.87.190 (talk) 08:17, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

This appears to be a duplicate of the below request. RudolfRed (talk) 16:33, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 23 July 2012[edit]

"He is only the second player, after Sachin Tendulkar, to reach 13,000 runs in Test cricket.[5]"

Please change to

He became the second player, after Sachin Tendulkar, to reach 13,000 runs in Test cricket.[5]

You can an additional footnote for citation http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;template=results;type=batting

"He is the first and only batsman to score a century in all ten Test playing nations.[7]"

Please change to "He became the first batsman to score a century against the other nine current Test playing nations.[7]"

59.61.87.190 (talk) 08:24, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Done, thank you. —SpacemanSpiff 11:36, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
The request about being the 2nd batsman to reach 13,000 mark was fine but the 2nd request is a bit problematic. As the original record and the change suggested are two totally different things. Scorin a hundred in all 10 test playing nations and scoring a hundred against the other 9 test playing nations are two different things. You can score a hundred against other 9 nations without scoring a hundred in all 10 test playing nations. For example, Sachin too has score a hundred against other 9 nations, but he has never scored a hundred in Zimbabwe. Dravid is indeed the only batsman to have scored a hundred in all 10 nations. Kindly note that and make necessary changes. Skagrawal4k (talk) 19:06, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
I didn't see the second part, I was responding to the above edit request and seem to have accidentally marked this one as done instead. —SpacemanSpiff 08:43, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
Fine then. If you didn't make the 2nd change, then No harm done. As the 2nd part of the request was not a valid request. Skagrawal4k (talk) 09:21, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Removing the table "Dravid's results in international matches"[edit]

Such stats are insignificant and have no place in wiki. Statistics are endless. There is no point adding unnecessary numbers to the point of rendering the article pointless. Wins and losses as a captain is a significant record but even then it can be accommodated in the prose instead of tabular form. Wins and losses as a player is not a significant stat. I've not seen any Cricketer's wiki who has such a table in his article. If we go on to add such useless statistics, then the article would become nothing more than a sea of numbers. Hell, I can add a table with Dravid's wins as a keeper. I can add a table of his batting statistics as a keeper batsman and as a non-keeper batsman. I can add a table of his batting records at different batting positions. Do we want that? Then what's the point of having cricinfo statsguru. This is a wiki article. We are not here to convert it into a cricinfo player's profile. Skagrawal4k (talk) 08:05, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Agreed with User:Skagrawal. WP:NOTSTATSBOOK comes into it. The bare minimum pure stats wise a player should have on an article is an infobox with basic career stats. Players of note, perhaps will have their performances against other nations in major matches, or perhaps a list of their centuries, but more often than not that will form a seperate article, eg: List of international cricket centuries by Kevin Pietersen. On captaincy, something mentioned in the prose is sufficient - like in Michael Vaughan's. Too many stats can screw with readability. As Skagrawal, some of the more wonderful and sometimes weird cricket stats are what cricinfo's statsguru and CricketArchive are for. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 22:09, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 September 2012[edit]

Spelling mistake: Dravid typed as Dracid Yogesh Chaudhari 19:32, 1 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yachaudhari (talkcontribs)

Yes check.svg Done Dl2000 (talk) 19:36, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 September 2012[edit]

Early life Rahul dravid also has a degree in engineering. Samyak jain1995 (talk) 08:54, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done This may be true but provide a reliable source please. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 10:00, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done

Found during October 2012 copy edit[edit]

  • The article said: "Dravid's father worked for a jams producing and preserving company Kissan, due to which he earned the nickname Jammy from his teammates at St. Joseph's Boys' High School." The source is this, and it doesn't bear out that claim. It doesn't mention Kissan, which anyway is a redirect to a Bollywood film. According to the Jams article, jams is a particular clothing line. And the source says that he got that nickname in the Indian team, not at school. Adjusted accordingly. --Stfg (talk) 14:38, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
I've just noticed that the editor who linked jams wrote it as [[jams]] instead of [[jam]]s. Note the difference: the first links to jams, the clothing line, and the second links to jam, a redirect to Fruit preserves! Guys, don't just insert random wikilinks -- check what they link to! --Stfg (talk) 15:04, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Seriously, what a shame. A legendary cricketer like Dravid deserves a much better wiki page. I hope and intend to improve this page once I'm done with my entrance exams. Skagrawal4k (talk) 05:51, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Yes, he does. Looking forward to seeing what you can do. --Stfg (talk) 08:56, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Drastic improvement needed[edit]

I notice that this page has had a copy-edit and improved a little, but there are still quite a few prose issues which need ironing out. Also, the coverage of his career remains very sparse. If anyone is serious about improving this article to at least GA standard, I think we need to get the ball rolling a bit.

From a quick glance, the Personal life section (which may be better named "Early life") looks fairly good, but the playing career section is poor. This needs drastic expansion. Then I would suggest that "Playing style" needs tightening up, making more relevant, and shortening. Perhaps the Controversies section needs condensing as well: NPOV does not mean list every piece of criticism of a player, and Dravid was far from a controversial cricketer.

In terms of his playing career, some more sources are needed. The obvious place to look is Wisden Cricketers' Almanack, which is easy enough to do, and I would be more than willing to help in providing references from this. It would more than adequately cover his entire career in depth, but is perhaps a little Anglo-centric at times. What other sources are available? Newspapers are usually OK, but can be variable in quality unless by a respected journalist. Cricinfo has quite a lot of good stuff. I see that there was a biography in 2004, but I know nothing of the author, nor how good the book is, but it may be a good source. Are there any other books which include him? Anything along the lines of "A history of Indian cricket" would be good, although I notice such a work by Bose was published in 2002 so would not cover Dravid's whole career (but it might be a good start). Sarastro1 (talk) 10:08, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Hope I'm on the right track[edit]

I'm done with Dravid's pre- 1999 World Cup test performances. Now will proceed to his pre World Cup ODI career. The great man's article has laid in tatters for just too long. Desperately want it to reach a minimum of B status. Though FA is the ultimate aim. Hope I'm on the right path. Working through my cell phone, so can't add citations. Will do it when I access through my laptop. Skagrawal4k (talk) 12:53, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Done with the pre-world cup ODI career as well. Will spend some time now on refining what I've already added, spell checking etc., adding wiki links, before starting to work on the 1999 World Cup section. Skagrawal4k (talk) 21:14, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
1999 World Cup is done. Now moving ahead. One series at a time. Just like Dravid said on 2011 England tour. The page is looking much better. We'll get there.Skagrawal4k (talk) 21:43, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

"Former" cricketer ?[edit]

He's playing in the 2013 IPL. He's a former Test and ODI cricketer. I don't know how to make the prose flow but I think "former Indian cricketer" is wrong.

I think deleting "former" would be better than the current version. Peteroakley (talk) 15:22, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

a small error.[edit]

In the first innings of the second Test against Australia at Adelaide, India reached 85–4 in reply to Australia's 556, when Dravid and Laxsman made 303 for the fifth wicket. please change the spelling of "Laxsman" to "Laxman" as it is the correct one. everywhere else the spelling is correct, that is "Laxman"

Done. Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 13:53, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2014[edit]

Please also mention that Rahul Dravid is Popularly known as Gentleman. It is because he is the true gentleman Indian cricket has ever witnessed. This gentleman never lost his temper on field against anybody. Also mention about this versatile player. He always played as per need of the team, I mean he played as opener, 1 down, 2 down, 5th, 6th till 7th position and no other batsman might have played at these many positions successfully. He even played the role of vice-captain, captain even as wicket keeper in Indian team as per needs of team. 114.143.73.125 (talk) 18:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: You have made no edit request in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ", so it is unclear what you want added.
Furthermore, you have not cited any reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:21, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2014[edit]

122.179.96.244 (talk) 14:26, 9 October 2014 (UTC) RAHUL DRAVID IS A KANNADIGA

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: What? NiciVampireHeart 15:57, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2015[edit]

Personal information Full name Rahul Sharad Dravid Born 11 January 1973 (age 42) Indore, Madhya Pradesh, India Nickname The Wall, Jammy, Mr. Dependable Height 5 ft 11 in (1.80 m) Batting style Right-handed Bowling style Right arm off spin Role Batsman, occasional wicketkeeper Website http://www.rahuldravid.com/ Abhishekb936 (talk) 06:08, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  B E C K Y S A Y L E 10:17, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Website mention in personal info[edit]

Please add website of Rahul Dravid in his personal info. Abhishekb936 (talk) 10:54, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done - I have added the website under External Links
It cannot be added to the Infobox on the right-hand-side, as it is not a supported parameter of Template:Infobox cricketer - Arjayay (talk) 11:20, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2015[edit]

Arjayay Thanks for adding website. But if you see wiki page of other sports personality Roger Federer, website given in right side where it is visible. I understand your point of infobox template. Still I request you to consider once again mentioning website. If it is not possible, no problem. Abhishekb936 (talk) 17:18, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Looks like you need to go to Template:Infobox cricketer/sandbox and add the ability for Template:Infobox cricketer to support website. Once you've done that and added a testcase to Template:Infobox cricketer/testcases, you can go to Template talk:Infobox cricketer and add the parameter be added if you are unable to edit the template yourself. Once it has been added to the template, feel free to come back here and request it added in this use case. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 17:39, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Yes check.svg Done but it doesn't make any difference.
I understand that, although you can't edit it, you can see the code currently in use, so you can see that I have added it to the infobox, but it doesn't show in the article.
Although "Website =" appears in Template:Infobox cricketer it does not work - I have tried "website =" as at Template:Infobox tennis biography but that doesn't work in the cricket infobox.
So "website" is a supported parameter for tennis players, but not cricketers - I will ask why at Template talk:Infobox cricketer. - Arjayay (talk) 17:58, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done I added the parameter code to the infobox template; then fixed it in this article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:39, 18 January 2015 (UTC)