Talk:Red Dead Redemption

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Gameplay screenshot[edit]

As was pointed out to me in a recent edit, the article doesn't actually have a screenshot of gameplay; the only image (excluding the cover art) is a promotional screenshot. As such, I have found four screenshots that I believe could be suitable: Option 1, Option 2, Option 3 and Option 4. Can I get some input, or some alternative options? I believe the horse-riding element should be included in the image, but I'm open to suggestions. -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 03:13, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Any other thoughts? CR4ZE, X201, czar, SNUGGUMS? -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 01:09, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm partial to P3 for its variety, crispness. P2 a distant second. Perhaps a more iconic scene could make a good shot? czar  01:13, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
czar, could you possibly emphasise on what you mean by "more iconic scene"? -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 01:35, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
I meant a scene with sufficient commentary to add a related caption. I'd say that I didn't have something specific in mind, which is the truth, but now that I'm typing, I know if I were choosing I'd be going right for the scenery during the first border crossing into Mexico with a caption about how well that scene was received. That's my bias talking, though. Still think P3 is the best of the four, though. czar  01:50, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the input, czar. I agree that an iconic scene such as the crossing of the border into Mexico would be a great idea. Therefore, I have taken three screenshots from that scene that I believe could be suitable: Option 1, Option 2 and Option 3. Do you think one of these would be suitable, or do you still prefer P3 above? -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 07:53, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Nice. The first one could work, but the latter two appear to be highly compressed (if taking a shot from YouTube, I'd crank the quality to 720/1080 from the gear icon first). New P1 or old P3 are the best options, in my book. It's also possible that I like old P3 because its size hasn't been reduced yet, which could kill its detail czar  14:48, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and obtained better quality versions of the newer screenshots (P1, P2, P3). I've also reduced the size of old P3 (here). Any definitive preference yet, czar? -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 01:36, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
Go ahead and include any of those images as long as you can explain their significance adequately in a FUR. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:16, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Original pics 2 or 3 for me. The new ones - while sharper and crisper than the first batch - have the player character in too much shadow for my liking. - X201 (talk) 09:17, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
That's a good point. Although I can agree that there is too much shadow, I feel as though including a screenshot from the crossing into Mexico is really suitable, and it might even be able to go in the Reception section; I've already found enough critical statements that display how well the scene was received. Would you be able to agree with this if I managed to find a screenshot from this scene that doesn't involve much shadow? -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 09:33, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
The shadow is just a comment about the first thing that struck me. Crossing into Mexico is a good choice, its a key moment in the game and there should be a good supply of sources (look backs, re-plays etc) for it as well. - X201 (talk) 14:01, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
The second Mexico shot to me is a definite no. The third one I like, the first I think is excellent. However, if your intention was to replace File:RedDeadRedemptionGameplay.jpg, none of them are suitable. They'd be fantastic in the plot section to illustrate a pivotal moment in the story, but they show little of how gameplay works. The other tricky thing to navigate is that the screenshots don't really serve the casual reader. First-glimpse impression is a man on a horse on a desert plain. John's crossing into Mexico is remembered so well partly because of the fantastic performance by José González. I think it's perfectly acceptable to have a short gameplay clip of this moment. There's no policy against having video so long as we respect the NFCC, and it's been allowed with Dishonored.
In terms of serving the gameplay section, I agree with Czar on the third original shot, but am also concerned about how good it will look at low-res. You could play it safe by getting a shot of the Dead Eye ability, or of John doing something morally reprehensible like hogtying a civilian or robbing a train. CR4ZE (tc) 09:09, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
The intention isn't really to replace the existing image, but to include one that features a screenshot of actual gameplay; the image in the article at the moment is only a promotional screenshot. I also agree that including a short video of the journey into Mexico would be good; I can go ahead with this, if anyone else agrees.
As for including an image in the Gameplay section, I actually think a screenshot of the Dead Eye ability would be a suitable idea, showcasing the ability itself, as well as the game's use of guns in combat. I've quickly gone ahead and found three screenshots in Dead Eye: Option 1, Option 2, Option 3. The latter two are also notable; Option 2 features the most memorable and pivotal moment in the game (the final main mission), and Option 3 showcases an actual gunfight in the game, which is a large gameplay feature. Any comments? -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 12:24, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Expansion[edit]

I think it would be worth adding the "Grand Theft Horses" allusion from the Eurogamer retrospective (source already in article). Several of those legacy statements could likely be stacked as well. It would also be good to have more on Marston's legacy in the respective section (i.e., a subsection like EarthBound#Ness) czar 20:02, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 October 2016[edit]


The section about griefing in multiplayer should contain a reference to the Friendly Free Roam [1]. I suggest a line as below:

On October 23, 2010 an update was released to include a Friendly Free Roam [2], where it is not possible to kill other players.

Jeroen loeffen (talk) 07:17, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done added to multiplayer section and added note to review section - X201 (talk) 07:59, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
The first edit copied my suggested text that correctly describes the additional type of multiplayer, now it has been altered in a way that makes it look like killing in multiplayer is not possible at all. To be precise, there are 3 types of multiplayer: Friendly [no killing other players], Normal [killing other players with aiming support] and Hardcore [killing other players with no aiming support]Jeroen loeffen (talk) 13:10, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
Note: This article is no longer Semi-Protected, so you can now edit the article yourself, but please ensure that any additions are properly sourced, to reliable sources and you maintain a neutral point of view - Arjayay (talk) 14:38, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

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