Talk:Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Galveston–Houston
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[edit]It would be interesting to learn about the hierarchical organization in pre-independence Texas.
For pre-independence Texas: Until 1839, Texas was part of various Mexico dioceses. Most recently, from around 1777 until 1839, it was under the Diocese of Linares o Nueva León (currently the Archdiocese of Monterrey). In 1839, the Prefecture Apostolic of Texas of erected. This was upgraded to the Vicariate Apostolic of Texas in 1841. Finally, in 1847, the Vicariate was upgraded to a Diocese and the name was changed to Galveston. Kraft 15:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Vietnamese page
[edit]I found http://www.cgvnhouston.org/ WhisperToMe (talk) 18:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Article name
[edit]Twice this page has been moved by another editor to "Catholic Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston", the 2nd time the editor in question ignored the request of an Admin to open a discussion on the talk page. Therefore I am opening the discussion. WP Naming standards for Archdioceses typically follows the format of "Roman Catholic Archdiocese/Diocese of XXXXX". I believe we should stay with this format, for continuity sake as well WP:COMMONNAME. --nsaum75¡שיחת! 03:32, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
- I agree that current consensus is that archdioceses should be named "Roman Catholic". This is the pattern followed by all of those articles, and it is to differentiate them from other organizations which call themselves "Catholic". The edit summary of the original move stated that "Roman Catholic" was not frequently used. That is incorrect. There are actually multiple dioceses in the US which have registered with the US government as charities using the name "Roman Catholic Archdiocese of...", which means they are self-identifying with this term. "Roman" can also, in these cases, mean a follower of the Latin Rite. I see no reason to move the article, and we'd need to have a widely advertised discussion to try to gain consensus to move it. Karanacs (talk) 14:23, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
- Agree with Karanacs and Nsaum75. Postoak (talk) 17:26, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
- "Roman" is not common parlance. Catholics refer to themselves simply as "Catholic." To introduce 'Roman' (while used in some instances) is burdensome and confusing. There are not other organizations that call themselves Catholic that do not add distinguishing monikers (e.g. Old Catholics, Polish Catholic). By precedent and by usage, the stand alone term "Catholic" is universally understood. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mnewhous (talk • contribs) 06:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- How Catholics self-identify is not the issue here (although, as I pointed out above, some dioceses are registered as charities using Roman Catholic Archdiocese of....). How others (independent sources) refer to them is. You are making simplistic and incomplete/incorrect assumptions. There is a long-standing consensus to have titles of archdioceses use "Roman Catholic". Karanacs (talk) 14:30, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- "Roman" is not common parlance. Catholics refer to themselves simply as "Catholic." To introduce 'Roman' (while used in some instances) is burdensome and confusing. There are not other organizations that call themselves Catholic that do not add distinguishing monikers (e.g. Old Catholics, Polish Catholic). By precedent and by usage, the stand alone term "Catholic" is universally understood. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mnewhous (talk • contribs) 06:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
- Agree with Karanacs and Nsaum75. Postoak (talk) 17:26, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Controversy
[edit]There appears to be a concerted effort to gloss over the sex abuse scandal of the dioceses in the United States by leaving out all references to it on the Diocesan web pages. Certainly a few salient statistics are worth noting on these pages. It did happen, you know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juzoitami (talk • contribs) 16:52, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
I removed that paragraph. The page is about the history of the diocese. Not specific events. I think there is already a page that says this info. Spiel (talk) 04:25, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
Harris County Block Book Maps
[edit]Here are tax assessor block book maps of Catholic churches in Harris County:
- Prince of Peace Church (on Tomball Parkway) - PDF and JPG - Volume 119, Page 7
WhisperToMe (talk) 10:49, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Note about old URL
[edit]http://web.archive.org/web/19980423041039fw_/http://sths.org/links/catholic.htm gives an old URL of http://dcheney.tamu.edu/texas/galveston-houston.html , but the wayback machine never captured from it :( WhisperToMe (talk) 06:17, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
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