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Kawasaki
The article reads that Playmore was founded by a company called Kawasaki. Which Kawasaki does it refer to? -James A. Calwell III 17:50, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
That would be Eikichi Kawasaki, founder of the original SNK in 1978... a person, not a company. - Stuart Copland 12:01, 25 February 2006 (EST)
SNKPlaymoreUSA vs. SCEA
Is it alright to discuss about SNKUSA, that how most of the games never released for the PS2 and ending up going to Microsoft X-Box? Some might want to know why most of the games never got a released in the US. 65.115.123.226 21:25, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
It was a shame SNKPlaymore made only games now for Game Boy Advance(which my mom and dad got me )and Xbox . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.21.109 (talk • contribs)
- Hard to say, IMO, it just sound bias, it not the company's fault this happen, but I let the other people think if is good for the article.Nauto 22:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Requested move
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Links to SNK are for the game company, it is highly unlikely that average EN users would type in SNK and expect to end up at Government of the Soviet Union. The company is now called SNK Playmore, but is most often referred to as SNK, and SNK was the name of the company when it was most notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnyMrNinja (talk • contribs)
- It would be very important to have the appropriate hatnote pointing to the moved disambiguation page. No vote at this stage. Andrewa 05:34, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Survey
- Oppose. If you read the article, there were two companies that should have articles with SNK as part of the name, SNK (company) and SNK Playmore. The former was in existence after the latter was created both existed at one time so there should be two articles. Aruze, Brezzasoft and several other companies were the successor companies to SNK, but apparently not Playmore. Again these successor companies were bought out by Playmore which became SNK Playmore. So SNK did not become SNK Playmore. This history makes for a very complicated trail that may not be best dealt with in a single article. Add in the fact that there are several political parties that use the SNK acronym and you have a case where leaving a dab page at SNK may well be the best option. While gamers may consider this to be the same company, it is not. Good articles and a good dab page give you the summary to see what happened over time. Vegaswikian 19:54, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- You are correct that the article contains different companies. There was a separate article at SNK that was merged with the Playmore article. The SNK Playmore article contains the history of SNK as a brand. Playmore and SNK Playmore were created to support the SNK brand. "SNK saw little success on the video game market due to (reportedly deliberate) under-financing on Aruze's part, so the original founder, Eikichi Kawasaki left the company, along with other executives, to found the company named Playmore on August 1, 2001.... In an attempt to regain control of SNK, Kawasaki's new company, Playmore, successfully bid for and were awarded SNK's intellectual rights in late 2001. The company then began to bolster its assets and rehire many of the former SNK employees." The article is about the SNK brand more than it is about the companies. Due to the integration of the two companies, the reasons for the second company's creation, the fact that the two company's histories only overlapped for part of a year, and the fact that the two companies have many of the same properties, people, and company name, it is logical to both histories in one article. Square Co. and Enix have seperate pages because they each have unique histories. There are over 60 links to the SNK disambiguation page, and they are all for the video game company. There are almost 450 links to the SNK Playmore article. From Wikipedia:Naming conventions - "Generally, article naming should prefer what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature. This is justified by the following principle: Names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors; and for a general audience over specialists." It is a simple question: when people type "SNK" where are they expecting to end up? SNK European Democrats (around 40 links) or SNK Union of Independents (around 30 links), the political parties in Czech Republic? The defunct airline Southeast Airlines (17 links) that doesn't even mention SNK in it's text? Or perhaps the Government of the Soviet Union? This page is for average English readers, it should go where they expect. JohnnyMrNinja 21:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Actually you raise a good point. It almost seems like there should be an article on the brand with an article{s} on the companies. As you point out the references are really to the brand of games. The companies are just a side issue with the brand being the focus. Maybe SNK for the brand and games with SNK Playmore and SNK (company) for the companies. I think with SNK being about the brand, it is clearly the primary use. Vegaswikian 23:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- Well at the least, as long as we seem to agree that SNK should go to SNK Playmore then that should be fine. I've redirected SNK to SNK Playmore and made a separate dab page. ~ JohnnyMrNinja {talk} 06:48, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- You are correct that the article contains different companies. There was a separate article at SNK that was merged with the Playmore article. The SNK Playmore article contains the history of SNK as a brand. Playmore and SNK Playmore were created to support the SNK brand. "SNK saw little success on the video game market due to (reportedly deliberate) under-financing on Aruze's part, so the original founder, Eikichi Kawasaki left the company, along with other executives, to found the company named Playmore on August 1, 2001.... In an attempt to regain control of SNK, Kawasaki's new company, Playmore, successfully bid for and were awarded SNK's intellectual rights in late 2001. The company then began to bolster its assets and rehire many of the former SNK employees." The article is about the SNK brand more than it is about the companies. Due to the integration of the two companies, the reasons for the second company's creation, the fact that the two company's histories only overlapped for part of a year, and the fact that the two companies have many of the same properties, people, and company name, it is logical to both histories in one article. Square Co. and Enix have seperate pages because they each have unique histories. There are over 60 links to the SNK disambiguation page, and they are all for the video game company. There are almost 450 links to the SNK Playmore article. From Wikipedia:Naming conventions - "Generally, article naming should prefer what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature. This is justified by the following principle: Names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors; and for a general audience over specialists." It is a simple question: when people type "SNK" where are they expecting to end up? SNK European Democrats (around 40 links) or SNK Union of Independents (around 30 links), the political parties in Czech Republic? The defunct airline Southeast Airlines (17 links) that doesn't even mention SNK in it's text? Or perhaps the Government of the Soviet Union? This page is for average English readers, it should go where they expect. JohnnyMrNinja 21:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose They are now SNK Playmore, they haven't used "SNK" in several years. Chuck Quizmo 01:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
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It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 07:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
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Merge/redirect proposal - Eikichi Kawasaki
Eikichi Kawasaki (founder of SNK) should be either merged or redirected here. There is already quite a bit of mention of Kawasaki here, and, after doing some searches, I do not think he is notable enough for a standalone article but most certainly be either merged or redirected here, as there is context here. –MuZemike 22:51, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
- I went ahead and redirected, as nobody has opposed it, and there is more stuff already mentioned here (and in good context) than in its own article. –MuZemike 20:26, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Broken Link
The game "Safari Rally" redirects to an article about the automobile sport itself. It should redirect to the game. On the french version of wikipedia, the game page does exist with the url https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_Rally — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.64.79.0 (talk) 22:11, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Could someone copyedit Mai Shiranui?
I'd like to make her a GA, kthx. Also, some gameplay-related content would be very nice. --Niemti (talk) 21:05, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Vigamus References
«On June 29, 2013, the Vigamus, a museum of videogames sponsored by the municipality of Rome, hosted an event dedicated to the history of SNK, tracing back the origins of the company and explaining the evolution of its games. Yamamoto Kei, Kiyoji Tomita and Ogura Eisuke participated at the event and were interviewed; Ogura also drew two original illustrations to exhibit at the museum.» How can an event as an obscure video game museum exhibit in Italy be so important to be featured in an encyclopedia? The participation of three SNK artists to such thing doesn't mean that it is important for the history of the whole company! This seems to me self-promotion from that italian museum and from the ones that organized the event. --79.11.245.89 (talk) 20:35, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Creation of SNK of America
Hello, I'm contributor from french wiki and i just added this to SNK page.
Look here : SNK of America were created in november 1986 SNK Profile Page 14
I saw also another reference for this : SNK History video made by SNK (look at 5:29)
it's difficult for me to find the truth. My guess and guess of french neo-geo community in France is : SNK Electronics Corporation is in Torrance (easily findable on flyers from SNK) since 1981... and perahps SNK Electronics have been closed in 1986 then SNK of America have created ? or SNK Electronics have been renamed SNK of America ?
I can't find any information of what became SNK Electronics on the Internet...
I also found here http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/cbs.aspx check corporation name and search snk and i'm sure snk of america is 1986 born.
Perhaps directly in America, someone can find more informations in california, or ideas to find the truth ? Best regards--Archimëa (talk) 22:32, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- Nobody cares about this (on year later!) ? --Archimëa (talk) 12:02, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved by Czar (talk · contribs) (non-admin closure). SSTflyer 11:54, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
SNK Playmore → SNK – They're back to their old name, logo, and slogan again. Just announced today. Aderack (talk) 16:37, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
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