Talk:Scheherazade (Rimsky-Korsakov)

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Hello guys. I hope my note will be found by someone. :)

But anyway, I just started listening to this piece, and instantly recognized the violin solo from a few bars in (roughly 35 seconds). I had recognized it from the Australian band PVT's (Formerly Pivot) song 'Artificial Horizon', which basically consists of just this solo chopped and looped with background bass. I don't know if this is important or relevent, but I thought I'd add it here anyway. Cheers. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:00, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello. Yes it's mentioned on the Make Me Love You article. Thanks. RJH (talk) 14:22, 31 March 2012 (UTC)


I believe that the section describing the first four notes of this work being part of a "whole tone scale" is completely in error: The first four pitches are E, B, D and C. Alas, there is only a half step between B and C, making it an impossibility for these pitches to be part of a whole-tone-scale (which has no half steps.) The piece begins in E minor, and includes several sharp 4's which are characteristically eastern or exotic sounding in a minor key. I'm new to Wikipedia so I didn't want to edit... :)


The notes that are stressed in the opening theme (that is, the ones given strong beats or long notes) are E, D, C, A-sharp, which make up the first four notes of a descending whole-tone scale. This is the underlying structure; the other notes intervene to make the melody. Mademoiselle Fifi 12:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I have just listen a concert, there should be one more Trumpet but not only 2 so as one more French Horns but not only just 4.(Addaick 12:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC))

What's that footnote number one doing on this page? This is not an encyclopedic entry, it's advertisement. Would someone just delete that, please? 23:37, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

You may be raising the same issue I'm referencing in the comment about the drum and bugle corps. When I saw the article this was footnote 3, and footnote 1 was a reference to liner notes in a recorded release of the work. Arguably that's not a real solid source either, but it at least was referenced for the purpose of attributing legitimate factual details.Ftjrwrites (talk) 16:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Drum and bugle corps free ad?[edit]

The Santa Clara Drum and Bugle Corps reference, replete with the score they received, seems totally out of place in an encyclopedic entry. I wanted to see if anyone else agreed before I simply removed it. Yeah, my college symphony released a recording of it, too. But that reference doesn't belong on Wikipedia.Ftjrwrites (talk) 16:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree it should be deleted.--Atavi (talk) 21:20, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Trivia and Popular Culture[edit]

There was recently a trivia notice put on the 'In Popular Culture' heading of this article which I deleted because I understood trivia to be different to popular culture in that one is miscellaneous facts that can be integrated into the rest of the article and that the other is a list of things specifically related to the references made by modern culture. But the trivia notice was put up again by another editor with no further explanation. Do editors think this section should be integrated or even removed? Storeye (talk) 09:24, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Citation needed[edit]

The following text is uncited and the fact template has twice been removed by anonymous editors:

This theme emphasizes four notes of a descending whole tone scale: E-D-C-A#.[citation needed]

My contention is that the illustration that demonstrates the theme was generated on a home computer. It is not a direct copy of a commercial score, and the copy is uncited. Per Wikipedia:Citing sources, a source "should be cited when adding material that is challenged". If this information is valid, then a source should be available. Thank you.—RJH (talk) 01:15, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I've addressed this.—RJH (talk) 23:49, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Sche or She[edit]

The article is titled Scheherazade, yet most references in the text, including the very first word of the article, are spelt Sheherazade.

We have to decide which is the transliteration we're going to use and stick to it consistently, while also acknowledging the existence of the alternative spelling. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 09:38, 21 November 2010 (UTC)


The following text was tagged as unsourced in 2008:

Sheherazade has been transcribed in its entirety and in its original key for symphonic wind ensemble by Merlin Patterson. This transcription was commissioned by the University of Houston Wind Ensemble, Tom Bennett, conductor, who gave the premiere at the Moore Opera House in Houston, Texas in April 2005.[citation needed]

I was unable to find a suitable citation per Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources, so I'm moving it to the talk page for future reference. Regards, RJH (talk) 15:53, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

La Sultane[edit]

Someone with more skill than I should change the caption of the picture "La Sultane". This is not the Sultan, it is a female (as indicated by the title, La ... e ending) and is was probably intended by the artist to be the heroine of the whole story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:44, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks. RJH (talk) 15:19, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

¶ Changed to The Blue Sultana, the English title everywhere applied to this work.Sussmanbern (talk) 18:04, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

That makes sense. Thank you. Regards, RJH (talk) 21:41, 23 December 2011 (UTC)


The following sentences appear to be essentially repeating the same information:

  1. According to Rimsky-Korsakov, the unifying thread consisted of the brief introductions to the first, second and fourth movements and the intermezzo in movement three, written for violin solo and delineating Scheherazade herself as telling her wondrous tales to the stern Sultan. The final conclusion of movement four serves the same artistic purpose.
  2. The movements were unified by the short introductions in the first, second and fourth movements, and an intermezzo in movement three. The last was a violin solo representing Sheherazade, and a similar artistic theme is represented in the conclusion of movement four.

Perhaps they can be consolidated somehow? Regards, RJH (talk) 22:47, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

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