Talk:Song thrush

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Lower case[edit]

There is only one species with the correct name Blackbird. if you change to lower case, it invites confusion with other species such as Red-winged Blackbird, which isn't even a thrush. However, I've added the scientific name to remove any possible ambiguity (probably should have done that anyway)

jimfbleak 12:54 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Throstle[edit]

A song thrush may also be known as a throstle. (Source: Wiktionary entry for throstle) Not sure if I should reference the Wiktionary entry in the Wikipedia article? Jameboy 22:01, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

It's not suitable as a reference. Richard001 02:05, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Range map[edit]

The map key contains the yellow and blue ranges, but not the green area. Snowman (talk) 15:30, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

In culture section[edit]

I wonder if it isn't better to remove this whole section, especially the random collection of appearances in poetry seem low on notability. Narayanese (talk) 22:11, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe, I'll wait and see what happens at GA review though. Jimfbleak (talk) 05:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

GA review[edit]

  • The link to sedentary (a redirect to sedentary lifestyle) doesn't really clarify this usage of the term to me.
  • "On average, 54.6% of juveniles survive the first year of life, and the adult annual survival rate is 62.2%." - no citation and no explanation of where in its range this was measured or when. Suggest something like "A survey in England in 2006 found that..."
Tim, citation 3 at the end of the next sentence covers it. It isn't clear how the figures were derived on that page. Do you think the inline citation should be placed at the end of both consecutive sentences?cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:34, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
  • "eating a wide range of invertebrates, especially earthworms, snails, soft fruit and berries." - berries and fruit are not invertebrates.
reworded to "eating a wide range of invertebrates, especially earthworms and snails, as well as soft fruit and berries" to clarify. Could stick the last two at the front but felt invertebrates better at front.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Minor quibbles, otherwise excellent. On hold for now. I'll leave this open for a while, since the nominator said they would be away until the 26th of Feb. Drop me a note on my talk page when you're done. Tim Vickers (talk) 23:08, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks fine now. Congratulations! Tim Vickers (talk) 16:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

The reference to 'The Thrush' as a poem by R S Thomas is incorrect - the quoted poem is the work of Edward Thomas —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pjk188 (talkcontribs) 07:31, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Aviculture[edit]

The article mentions one caged thrush in a pub, which would be subject to regulations these days. Does this practice need to be explained more? Are their threats of this practice to song birds and the Song Thrush in some parts of the world, past and present? (talk) 16:31, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

China[edit]

There is undue weightage on the ban in China and about some report on the web with notes on the errors in it - with a newspaper link that does not work. Is this really so important? Shyamal (talk) 03:44, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

The whole story from China has me very confused. The Times article names the songbird in question as the Hwamei, which is not the species described in this article. Meanwhile this article indicates that the law in question applies only to Beijing and not to the whole country. Can anyone get to the bottom of what's going on? Recruiting a Chinese-speaking Wikipedian may be of some help, as English-language sources seem to be lacking. Kla’quot (talk | contribs) 03:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Cuisine[edit]

The "In cuisine" section contains no references. Featured Articles should have references for everything. I'm mentioning this here in order to draw it to the attention of the regular contributors. Thanks. EuroSong talk 12:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, missed this due to a subsequent bot edit, now removed jimfbleak (talk) 14:28, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Media[edit]

The media available for this species is much better than average. We don't have a featured picture, which is a pity, but the taxobox image is good quality. The audio is a nice feature, though some video would be good too. More behavioural images would be good too; I think having a snail picture is a poor substitute for one eating a snail. The last image isn't at Commons despite being 'public domain', and oddly also has a fair use rationale. Richard001 (talk) 05:11, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I decided to try my hand at sprucing up a featured article's media with material from Flickr and think it looks better now. There is a picture of one feeding on berries and a video. I couldn't find anything of a pair mating (not even on the internet as a whole - there's a challenge for budding photographers). If there's anything else on Flickr, or elsewhere, I can try to get it released if you want to drop me a line. There are also probably plenty of illustrations in public domain books. More video and audio would also be good. Richard001 (talk) 05:03, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Black Sea?[edit]

Where did the author of the article get that map of Eurasia? It doesn't show the Black Sea! Caeruleancentaur (talk) 12:05, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Good point, it does look weird because of that. Invertzoo (talk) 01:13, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

"Smashing" snails[edit]

I changed this phrase in the intro and in the text. Thrushes don't "smash" snails; they hit just hard enough to break the shell into two or three pieces so that they can eat the soft parts of the snail easily. If they "smashed" the shell (which implies breaking into many tiny pieces) the soft parts would be all mixed with tiny shell fragments and would be rather horrible to eat. Invertzoo (talk) 01:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

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