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==Stevie's early-70s self-financed/independently recorded albums: source? Details? The article states the following: "During this period, Wonder independently recorded two albums and signed a contract with Motown Records."
Were those albums ever released, intact, or were individual tracks taken from these sessions and released on his Motown albums following his re-signing in 1971? If the albums were released intact, as recorded, which albums are they? What is the source for this information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 23:08, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- 1 grammar problem in "1970–79 section
- 2 Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2014
- 3 Discography
- 4 Caption under the main image
- 5 Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2014
- 6 Songs In The Key Of Life - Ranking on Rolling Stone Top 500 Albums
- 7 Kids
- 8 2014 Grammy awards appearance
- 9 Name
- 10 Harmonica
- 11 How did a blind man write songs?
- 12 External links modified
- 13 Drums
- 14 Early life: "... changed her son's surname to Morris, partly because of relatives"?
- 15 Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2016
grammar problem in "1970–79 section
The second sentence of this sections refers ambiguously to "the next album" when it should refer to "Wonder's next album": "Wright and Wonder worked together on the next album, Where I'm Coming From" (both Wright and Wonder were recording artists, so the sentence should make clear whose album is being discussed). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 23:00, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2014
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Stevie sang and played harmonica on "Someday" by the GAP Band.
- Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. Technical 13 (talk) 05:36, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
SilkTork, for the most part, I like your changes, but per WP:WikiProject Musicians/Article guidelines#Discography section and WP:Manual of Style (lists of works)#Discographies, if a musician has his own discography article, the discography section of the musician's primary article should only provide a summary of the musician's major works using a simple list of their studio albums. Only for artists without separate discography pages should there be extra information, such as record labels, chart positions, etc., because it's just unnecessary redundancy. --Musdan77 (talk) 20:24, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
Caption under the main image
The caption, as of writing this, is 'Stevie Wonder in 1973, at an early stage of his "classic period"'. My suggestion is 'Stevie Wonder performing in 1973'. My problem with the current caption is that it's not succinct enough, contains redundant information (you can read in the article that what's considered his 'classic period' started in about 1972, which naturally leads the reader to knowing that 1973 is an early stage of his classic period, as long as they have extremely basic math skills), and it offers information that, to the new learner about Stevie Wonder, can be confusing. It doesn't explain what his classic period was, it just says it was at the beginning of his classic period. A new learner might be pushed away by this lack of explanation. You have to read further into the article for it to be informative, which largely defeats the point of having it in the caption anyway, especially when the only people who will understand it from the caption are people who are already familiar with his classic period, who probably could already figure out that 1973 is an early year in that. My suggestion is still informative, and provides information that anybody can clearly understand.
The reason why I think these reasons matter is that 1. it looks better and feels better to read which I think should be a goal for a Wikipedia writer, 2. it conforms more to the guidelines on the page Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Captions. If we look there, the first guideline is:
"A good caption 1. clearly identifies the subject of the picture, without detailing the obvious. 2. is succinct. 3. establishes the picture's relevance to the article. 4. provides context for the picture. 5. draws the reader into the article."
I think that all of these goals are better achieved by shortening the caption to "Stevie Wonder performing in 1973".
Additionally, if we look at another article for reference, one that's even featured, Michael Jackson, we can see that the caption in that article, as of writing this, is "Michael Jackson performing in 1988", which is similarly clear and succinct. You could also edit that one to "Michael Jackson performing in 1988 during his Bad Tour", but that's not necessary for having a clear, informative caption. That MJ caption, in particular, would be more clear to the brand new learner, though, than anything about a "classic period", because tours are commonplace and well-understood whereas Stevie Wonder is the only artist (at least that I know of) to have what many people refer to as his classic period.
Again, my suggestion is Stevie Wonder performing in 1973 (without the bold) for the main image caption. I'll edit it myself in a few days if this doesn't get any responses by then. If you disagree, please respond with your argument. Thank you for reading and have a nice day! :) Ironbirdiemix (talk) 19:53, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- Tend to agree. Although I always try to slip in the actual location too (in the case apparently a Motown recording studio, but the source is unclear.) Martinevans123 (talk) 20:20, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- You're right (I'm wondering why I didn't make that change myself) ...except that -- only the last name should be used for the subject of the article, because his first name is in the infobox title above. --Musdan77 (talk) 03:00, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
- So are we sure he was "performing" or was he just just "recording" in the studio? I realise there is some overlap in these terms, but the stance, headphones and type of microphone suggest very strongly that this is no "a performance". I suspect the signed photo from which this image was taken (originally an eBay item) was a stock publicity shot, take in the Motown studio, for sending out to fans, etc. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:26, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2014
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- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 09:57, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Songs In The Key Of Life - Ranking on Rolling Stone Top 500 Albums
This article states that SITKOL ranks 56th on this list, but I followed the link, and the RS site has it at 57th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 13:34, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Discrepancy of number of children with current woman, and newest daughter is born. 
- Unlikely to be mistaken, but do you have a better source? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:29, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
2014 Grammy awards appearance
By all accounts, Stevie Wonder's live television appearance with Daft Punk, Pharrell Willaims, and Nile Rodgers on the 2014 Grammy's, performing a mash up of Daft Punk's "Get Lucky", Rodgers's "Le Freak" and Wonder's "Another Star" was one of the, if not the, highlight of the program. It should definitely be mentioned among his more current performances.
I am just watching a 25th anniversary of Motown program on PBS that is from 1983. Martha Reeves claimed that she named Stevie Wonder. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 04:12, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
I agree with the recent change to reduce the long list of instruments in the infobox, but would think we'd include harmonica - especially thinking of the "Little Stevie" phase. --John (User:Jwy/talk) 16:01, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- His primary instruments are vocals and piano, yes he plays the harmonica but, fans and the like do not go to one of his concerts to hear his harmonica playing, they first expect to hear him sing and play piano (his main gig). Mlpearc (open channel) 16:22, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
- Wonder's distinctive harmonica playing has been central, and in my view pivotal, to his output throughout his career. He's also made a number of notable harmonica-playing guest appearances on other musicians' hit records. To omit the harmonica would be a travesty. He is a true multi-instrumentalist. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:49, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
How did a blind man write songs?
This question popped into my head, and I couldn't find an answer on this page. Does Wonder compose his songs in Braille somehow? The details of how such a prolific, blind songwriter gets the tunes from his head to paper seems a noteworthy question. Anyone know the answer? Jojopeanut (talk) 23:21, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- A better question is how did a blind man produce 9 kids with 5 different women.--220.127.116.11 (talk) 02:40, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
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Stevie has played nearly all the drums on his major records and throughout his adult career... shouldn't drums be mentioned in his infobox as one of his instruments? I know the list isn't supposed to go on endlessly, but I think drums meet the criteria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zabboo (talk • contribs) 02:37, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- Secondary instruments do not go in the infobox, but drums should be addressed in the article body. Mlpearc (open channel) 02:41, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Early life: "... changed her son's surname to Morris, partly because of relatives"?
The [Early Life] section includes the following sentence about Stevie's mother:
She changed her name back to Lula Hardaway and later changed her son's surname to Morris, partly because of relatives.
What does "partly because of relatives" mean? She wanted his last name to match some relatives' last name? Some relatives hated his last name of Judkins? And, in any case, where does this information come from? -- Dan Griscom (talk) 02:30, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2016
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I would like to request a change in Stevie Wonder's wikipedia page. There seems to be a major error in his biography, due to the lack of information for his "daredevil" phase during the 1950's. Qwertyuasdfghj456789 (talk) 04:10, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 09:53, 9 December 2016 (UTC)